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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:15 AM
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Yarghhh so frustrated (and grumpy) today
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Can anybody provide any insight? This is the deal: Earlier this year (May, June, part of July) I suffered from insomnia, waking up at 2 or 3 a.m., staring at the ceiling till 4 or 5, and then conking back out till it was time to get up around 7. Not fun, especially with all the dark thoughts going through my mind as I lay there. (I'm sure we all know how that goes...) Plus I was always teary--all day, all evening, underlying everything I was doing--and quite often I'd cry myself to sleep. But all that stopped, and August and September were fairly peaceful.

Now, however, I'm back to the way I was in May and June--totally out of the blue. Nothing's changed--no new drama in the mix.

Does anybody know why I'd revert to the way I was several months ago? Has anything come back around, astrologically, that I should know about?

Another possibility is that my thyroid meds are messin' with me again. My earlier moods may have coincided with my ending up with the "new" type of Armour. Ran out of that, and for the past few weeks I've been on the last of the Westhroid that my holistic doc could get her hands on. Is that possible--does it take several weeks for the body to shift when starting a new thyroid med even if it's all different versions of desiccated thyroid?

Guhhh I don't know and I'm so stoopid from lack of sleep I can't even think straight. So if anybody can figure it out, please let me know. I'm at a loss. Thanks! :shrug:
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:44 AM
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1. try tracking your basal body temperature
If your moods coincide with lower body temperatures, it could be thyroid related. Maybe you need to up your dose?

I will say that lack of sleep will make anyone moody. I sometimes awaken in the middle of the night and I take melatonin to get back to sleep. Sometimes I even listen to Coast to Coast then. But, I can sleep late.

If you have to go on synthetic thyroid medicine, you can get some with T3 in it. Most people who get benefit from the glandular thyroid medicine do so because it contains some T3, and their bodies have trouble converting T4 to T3.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:33 PM
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4. That's a good idea
I'll have to get one, though. Only got the old-fashioned mercury bulb in the medicine cabinet.

Thanks also for the tip about supplementing a synthetic thyroid med. I'm NOT looking forward to running out of my supply of Westhroid. I have one month's worth left, so in a week or two I have to check with my doctor to see what the plan is. (She treats a lot of thyroid patients.) I have noticed that many people have been able to order more Westhroid, and there's something on thyroid.about.com about renewing production in November, but I haven't read the article yet. Must do that today.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 02:31 PM
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7. also, what about light exposure?
I actually had thought about that first, but you said June/July you felt liked this, and thought, no that probably isn't it. Exposure to light in the daytime can help melatonin levels at night. Anyway, now I remember that parts of the country had very dark and rainy June and July.......and, as I remember, you took a vacation to California sometime, but I forget when. Anyway, try to think back and see if the amount of light you got at various times could be a factor. Because, we are starting to seriously see lower light levels now.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:52 AM
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2. Sorry this is happening MG !
You sound like you're going through what my daughter is....with the thyroid....but you couldn't be pre menopausal could you? It also might be all the "fumes" your breathing in!! Sending prayers, love and light your way!!:hug:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:35 PM
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5. Thanks, dear
It's frustrating looping back into a phase I thought was over.

I don't think I'm premenopausal, although it's always hard to tell, with the thyroid hormones all messed up (which is which). My midwife said a mother's menopause is a good indicator of when a daughter's will start, and my mom didn't start till her 50s, so I don't think so (and my midwife doesn't either).

The fumes could wreak all sorts of havoc, you're right! Looking forward to being DONE with smelly home improvement products--soon, soon.

Thanks for the prayers! :hug:
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 09:58 PM
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14. I spent some time this evening up at Kirsties house.
I was supposed to babysit while she went to a Pampered Chef party. She ended up staying home because her Dr. informed her that her T.tests came back all screwed up. She may have to go back to U Conn. Med. Center to have it "zapped"....again! For now she's off her Synthroid. That's all that "the best" Dr's. will prescribe around here !! This pisses me off no end, 'cause she's really draggin', and they have a family wedding Fri. night. Hope you're getting yours checked out....soon.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:53 AM
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16. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that
Yes, sometimes killing the thyroid is the only recourse. Although I keep getting the feeling that there's another way to handle it without perpetuating violence upon the poor gland ;) but we haven't figured it out yet. In the meantime, though, it's the best treatment we've got for severe cases.

Would your daughter consider going to a holistic m.d.? There are directories available online to find one anywhere in the country; I think CT should have quite a few. Naturopaths and holistic docs are much more likely to prescribe natural desiccated thyroid.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 11:48 AM
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21. I think it's too late now, and I doubt she would.
Stubborn child she is.... to quote Yoda!! She's had it done already, right after Aidan was born. I didn't know that T cells could grow back?? or they maybe didn't get it all the first time? I'm really concerned about her (that's what Mom's are for I've found !) On top of this, she wrenched her back yesterday tripping over one of Aidan's toys, so keep her in your prayers and send some light her way please. I'm praying for you and your problems too! Luv ya, JA
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:18 PM
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22. Of course
Sending light now. :hug:
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:25 PM
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23. Love ya babe!
Thanks!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:11 PM
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3. what do your dreams say?
any input there?

I, too, am sorry you're going through this, MG.

But, sigh, sigh, we all have those times now and then. Just have to get a handle on it, as you are attempting to do.


Cher

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 01:40 PM
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6. Alas, no significant dreams lately
although I have prevailed upon the angels to please send me some clear messages as to what's up. I actually said to them today, "Pretend like I'm really dense, okay?"
:rofl:

I have had quite a few nightmares/unsettling dreams over the past week or so, which is not common for me. They're obviously manifestations of some sort of anxiety, but I can't pinpoint what I'm anxious about in waking life. Hmmm...
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:25 PM
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8. I know what you mean.. the energy this week has been very uncomfortable.
I too am blessed with Thyroid problems and I limp along with my Synthroid.. but i don't think that is the problem. (BTW.. thanks to all for the suggestions on meds)

I noticed on Sunday that we again began to descend into an energy backwater or doldrums. (We should be done with that.. as Mercury went direct?) Yesterday and today 10/5 and 10/6.. feels like I am walking in quicksand surrounded by molasses... nothing is moving? An awful feeling. Yet there is a lot of apprehension in the air. Waking up again at odd hours, etc. Don't know if this is similar to what you are feeling?

Something is going to break loose very soon... not sure.. just a feeling.
Sending healing energy. Someone in this forum got me started reading the Akashic Records (thank you). She has some good information.
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The Fear Monster

http://www.mothersky.com/skywatch.html


With its opposition to Uranus still in orb, Saturn will move into Libra on October 29th; introducing the next major phase of the Cardinal Cross (2008-2015). Right around Halloween (Samhain to Wiccans ) we can expect another spike in the ongoing global drama.

This is the perfect moment to begin practicing freedom (Uranus) from fear (Saturn).

Transiting Pluto (breakdown) is still opposed to the American chart’s Venus (money), approaching its next exactitude in December. Astrologers are not the only observers who have associated the years ahead with the end of the dollar as a world currency2, the breakdown of the US Federal Reserve3 and resource depletion on a global scale. Though this writer does not believe in predictions per se,4 even making a hypothetical reference to such scenarios is enough to freak out a lot of people.
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http://spiritlibrary.com/akashic-transformations/akashic-records-for-october-2009

Are there any power days or important days for us to be aware of in October 2009?
October 10 has a big, strong energy. It has a nurturing energy that might be a little bit challenging as it arrives, but will continue to feed you for days to come. Notice what happens on October 10. Be open to anything that arrives. It seems that whatever arrives in your life on October 10 or calls your attention is there to help nurture or nourish you eventually. Even if you do not understand it on that day, tuck it away, write it down, remember to watch for how this instance or whatever comes on this day eventually helps you become stronger and more loving.



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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:33 PM
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9. You speak for me...

"I noticed on Sunday that we again began to descend into an energy backwater or doldrums. (We should be done with that.. as Mercury went direct?) Yesterday and today 10/5 and 10/6.. feels like I am walking in quicksand surrounded by molasses... nothing is moving? An awful feeling. Yet there is a lot of apprehension in the air. Waking up again at odd hours, etc. Don't know if this is similar to what you are feeling?

Something is going to break loose very soon... not sure.. just a feeling."


I also feel apprehension, though not really on a personal level...ya know what I mean? It feels bigger.

And I also wonder if empaths are getting hit in unusual waves of physical symptoms. Out of the clear blue, I had a two-hour spell of dizziness and nausea and had to lie down. Even though I work from home for the most part and blessed to be able to do that if need be, I NEVER do.

Hugs to everyone...'tis one of those times. :)

:grouphug:

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:02 PM
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12. My apprehension is on a personal level
Or so I think. Maybe it's not, and I'm just picking up on the general vibe. I am an empath, and I don't put up my shield as often or as strongly as I should.

My arms, shoulders, back of my neck, and even forearms ached something fierce all weekend. And I felt so icky last night and today I thought I was coming down with my son's cold, but I haven't. I went to bed early last night. Today I felt so yucky that I couldn't mow the lawn as I had planned; instead I plopped on the couch for an hour and caught up with some shows on the TiVo before I had to pick up my son from school.

This sure is messy!!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:38 AM
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24. It might be bleed over from others
There is a lot of fear and apprehension in the air these days due to the uncertainty the majority of the population is feeling.
People who are sensitive to subtle energies,like us, are picking up on others despair and it is affecting us.(Hint:have you ever wondered why gurus and such retreat to caves in the mountains or to the forests?)
The way I see it is there are two paths you can go with-Either sheild and ground yourself heavily to protect yourself or turn up your light and overpower the fear around you.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:11 PM
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10. October 25/26 ...
Just make sure you've done your shopping and have some cash on hand.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:58 PM
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11. Doldrums--yes, exactly!
And LOTS of apprehension, definitely. I keep asking my angels to help, intercede, give me a sign, and for the love of the gods, freakin' help me bust through the stasis! It's like blowing a huge bubble-gum bubble. It just keeps going and going and going, and I'm wincing, waiting for it to go kablooey and get pink goo in my hair and up my nostrils, but instead it just keeps getting bigger, and I get more fearful as the suspense builds. NOT a good feeling!
:rofl:

I don't feel as teary tonight as I did earlier today, which is good, but over the past few days it's come and gone and come back again, which it could later on or tomorrow. So my guard is still up.

I rechecked my AstrologyZone horoscope, and Susan pointed out the 16th over and over again, but no comments about this past weekend.

Thanks for the links, Lib--I will check them out. And while I'm sorry to hear you and others are experiencing the same thing, it's also kind of comforting, if you know what I mean. :hug:
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 09:47 PM
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13. Yes, it is Uranus opp. Saturn
that are both opposite your natal Mercury in Sag opp. to Jupiter in Gemini.

This would cause superior amounts of dramatic shifts in mental moods and can lead to insomnia.
In other words, it's just a very busy mind right now.

Your chart needs deep interpretation which can't be done here.
I am not a Dr. and keeping with my guidelines as well as DU's, I cannot advise medical treatment.


However

I can say with good confidence that your May/June planetary placements have "returned" and will dissipate once again. Once more, it's not the idea to DUCK these planets.

I simply think (living with SUn opp. Uranus natally myself) you're simply getting over stimulated. This is exaggerated by your natal proclivity from Venus and Mars in Aquar. in your 7th. You and I are not typical Capppies - both of us have strong Uranus/Aquar.

I would try to NOT stimulate myself before bedtime, no TV, no DU... nothing that will get you angry. Uranus/Saturn will be at it over and over till next August. Your sensitive degrees to watch these two is at 24 Virgo and 24 Pisces.

Uranus is the main one here, it was on you in May/June, is back now AND FADING quickly and will return for it's final short stay in Feb/10

My 2 cents anywho.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:41 AM
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15. Thanks, Rick! That helps a lot
I can see those influences pretty clearly--now that you point them out! :D I've been having a hard time meditating, my thoughts pinging all over the place. Can't really focus, which is not like me usually. However, yes, I'm feeling much better than I was even a day or two ago. No longer teary, no longer upset over every little thing, and I can focus better. I'll watch for it again in February.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:04 AM
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17. FWIW- my sleeps are screwy too
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 10:06 AM by FirstLight
fellow cappy...passing out at wierd times during the day and then awake at night or having dreams that just don;t make ANY sense.got a deadline tomorrow and I have wasted three days already this week...ack!

I don't know anything about the thyroid thing, so I am staying away from that and focusing on the energies...

..what I pick up is definately a return to what was "bugging" you before you left on vacation, even if it isn't obvious. Hows Mr. MG (& Jr.) doing with you these days? ... are you holding back anywhere with that dynamic, or did you get in to see the therapist you were thinking about...? maybe there is some distress lingering too with him deciding to look for a new job in this uncertain economy?

:hug: so many things are in flux right now sistah, so much for us earth signs to try and HOLD steady when the rest of the planet seems Hell-bent on turning it upside-down. I am sending you love & light or a gentle and easy resolution to all of it. above all, be gentle with yourself as you walk through the energies...
The vision I see is you calmly walking through a malestrom of bits & pieces flying about, nothing actually touching you, but it would LOOK like danger to the untrained eye...

You are gonna be okay, remember salt & lavender baths are great for clearing the energy that lingers when you are processing this stuff... and LOTS of SAGE!!!
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:37 AM
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19. Really! That's interesting and good to know
I mean, I'm sorry that you're also waking up etc. but it's good to know that it's not just me.

I'm having lots of weird dreams too. They do NOT make any sense, so I'm seeing them as kind of a hardcore "cleaning the basement and the attic of odd detritus".

I'm starting to think it's not the thyroid thing, really, as Westhroid is supposed to be one of the best meds out there--I can't imagine it would wreak havoc with me.

You're probably right about the stuff from earlier in the summer coming back to bug me, because I haven't taken action on it. I have the phone number of a therapist, but I haven't called yet. Still doing the limbo thing, which is not healthy. Our anniversary (11th) was this past weekend; we had a pleasant dinner out but we didn't "talk" about anything, so it's still hanging there...

Thanks for the good vibes, sistah. I love your vision! :hug:
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:16 AM
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18. I'm having the same problems, MG
but I'm not on thyroid medicine. This past weekend I simply crashed and burned.

And then went back to waking up at 3 or 4 am and not falling back to sleep.

Luna is feeling it too. He was up much of the night last night, keeping me up. He finally settled down around 4am, and then Jake woke up and got started.

I feel like I've been run over by a truck this morning. Was trudging through chores. Tried to re-wrap Algiers' back legs and he wouldn't cooperate. I just broke down. It's unwrapped. It'll be ok; it's just that wrapping helps keep the swelling down and gives both legs some support.

I feel raw around the edges. Planning to shower and nap shortly, so I'm in better shape when I head to work.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:39 AM
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20. Yep, that's exactly it
This likely isn't my thyroid, then--not after what you, Rick, FL, and everyone else have said on this thread. In a way that's heartening, but now I've got to deal with the mental stuff, which can be harder to tackle.

"Raw around the edges" is a great description. Very accurate.

I'm sorry to hear about Algiers. Sending light for your dear horse--and for your well being too. :hug:
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