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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 10:14 PM
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"The Separation of the Worlds" - Karen Bishop - September 15, 2009
The Separation of the Worlds
Karen Bishop
September 15, 2009


I have been sitting on this information for a while now, as I prefer to write about things and situations that we are currently experiencing as it gives things more meaning and understanding. My role is only to validate, and thus, keep the power within each and every one of us.

For many, September 9 marked the final completion. This meant that we were absolutely and positively completely done with the old reality and lower dimensions. Thus, a massive cord was severed and we are now cut off from everything oldour prior lives, our prior roles, and our prior everythingreally.

This can feel like much of everything is very far away and now residing in another world, we can feel suddenly removed from much and from individuals we were connected to before, it can be near impossible to communicate with those who are residing elsewhereeither through communication problems or even with technology (and Mercury being retrograde is adding to this).

Yes, we had been removed for a while as this process unfolded, but what is different now, is that the remaining tendrils are now being very suddenly severed. Like a knife cutting out and removing lower vibrating energies from our lives in one last fell swoop, any remaining cords are now being cut, seemingly whether we like it or not. If we have crossed over to the other side, we are no longer allowed these connections to those in the old reality, in ways that we have had prior.

What is occurring here is the separation of the worlds. The vast chasm between the rungs of the ascension ladder is most certainly at hand now. Around the window of time of September 9, we were asked to choose. We were asked if we wanted to move forward into the new reality, stay behind and experience the suffering, or leave the planet altogether.

Enough time had passed for each and every soul on this planet to get on board, to open to source, to examine his/her patterns and beliefs, to make changes, and to be willing to grow. The time was up. The decisions were made, and now, the results of those decisions are now beginning to manifest.

The separation of the worlds will not be pleasant in many ways, but it is all relevant to how we choose to perceive things. Those who stayed behind, or who chose to remain in the old world and old reality, unwilling to make changes and to open, will now experience a massive amount of suffering and destruction. I am normally not a gloom and doom writer, but I must stay true to what is occurring, and unfortunately, this will be the new scenario.

Wake up calls almost always occur through suffering, or hitting rock bottom, or through desperation. Thus, this will be the scenario for those existing on the other side from where we now are. But for those who chose to move forward, a vastly different scenario will be present.

Those who chose to stay on the earth, and who chose to be willing to trust and open to a very new beginning and new experience, who were willing to let go of much of everything, and who were very ready, are now finally beginning the first stages of creating their own heaven on earth.

If we can become very clear and detailed about what it is that we want to create for ourselves, and what exactly that will look like, then it is now finally time to experience it. Miracles will occur, we well be safe and secure, we will be in a new world and new land, and most assuredly, have a very new beginning without the struggling, pain, negativity, loss, and much else that we may have encountered in times past.

For me, this is a painful process in regard to who has been left behind. I have lost my father, my mother, and now my daughter and grandchildren. These severing energies cut so deep and strong, that it feels like a terrible death has occurred, but the worst part for me, is in watching my loved ones suffer so. But I know as well, that they are all on their own individual journeysand these journeys can be beautiful to watch at soul levels.

Everyone has had enough time to align themselves with the new, right up until this point of completion. There had to be a breaking point at some point, and this is the time.

But all, of course, is not lost. There is always room for change, growth, and different decisions to be made. It is never too late. Everything is not lost for the old world. What is occurring, is a separation of the worlds, a large chasm in between them that will grow ever wider in times to come, and a distinct removal from any kind of interaction from one world to another.

This is a massive separation, with a very tight boundary.

Thus, we will be very removed and unable to connect to the other side vibrating below usto the old world. We can no longer reside there as we are now fully living and breathing on what was the other side for us for so very long. So how do we now connect to the old world if we choose, especially if we are no longer allowed there?

We are now on the other side that our guides have inhabited for so long. We are indeed becoming earth angels. Thus, we are now the angels of the earth for those in the old world. And this is how we will connect if we indeed choose and need to connect. This means no saving, so doing things for others who reside there, and no helping. As earth angels, we assist when asked, through our expertise and abilities. We allow those in the old world to find their own way, just as we did in times past. When we needed help, our guides and angels gave us advice, and such, and this is what we will now be doing as well.

Our guides did not come into our spaces (the higher vibrating ones at least) uninvited, tell us what to do and how to do it (unless asked), do everything for us, and live where we did in order to bring up the vibration of the planet. They stayed on the other side, allowed us to bring up our own vibrations and to hold our own light, and assisted us in how to do that, until we were eventually vibrating as high as they were, and then they left and made room for us.

If we continued to reside in the old world, we would be holding all the higher vibrating energy, hogging it so to speak, and thus disallowing those who are still finding their way to open on their own. They need to find their own higher vibrating selves and their own connections through opening on their own. We can now only watch from a distance, assist when asked by the souls left behind who are willing and allowing, and in this way, perhaps feel a bit better about the suffering and destruction that will soon be occurring in the old reality. As always, the suffering and destruction will serve as an impetus for awakening, as will our own presence at special times.

Another way to connect is through the eternally high vibration of love. But this way has a different catch. As we are now very much in a new reality, our connections to those who have not asked for help, will simply be in relation to normal interactions still necessary in some ways. During these brief times of visiting the old world, staying in a loving space keeps us in the higher vibration of where we came.

As time goes on, the separation will become ever more severe. Currently, there is more of a chance for souls right on the border to cross over, as this separation has just occurred and the line is still a bit grey. Right on this edge or border, there are many still making up their minds. All new places cannot be filled and new connections made, until each and every soul determines what they now want to do, be, and what they want their reality to look like. When these final decisions are made, then souls will begin connecting, and also begin severing the cords to other souls.

So what about all the new arrivals? How will they survive and what will life be like? As mentioned so many times prior in WINGS posts, we will connect to one another, and thus have all our needs met, have magical support, and hold each other up in beautiful ways, as we create a very new reality.

But first, we must know who we are, what our true and authentic selves are all about, and what we are here to contribute. And we must decide what we want our new beginnings to look like as well. Once these decisions are distinctly made, an anchor is placed, and things begin to sort themselves out.

I have been feverishly writing the new mini e-book, with so much of this information for you, hopefully serving to validate what you already know and to serve as a road map as well, in order to put more clarity and purpose into this new situation and process, than I could in a short WINGS post. And I am in the process of setting up camp in a new area as well, where I will reside for quite some time and be offering gatherings for those arriving in the new.

If we can allow ourselves to be positive, open, and trust that our heaven on Earth is really here now, and stay out of the old world as much as possible, our heaven will then manifest for us much more readily, as these higher states of being really serve to keep us there. And for those of you who cannot move forward quite yet, your current space can readily and easily become a heaven on Earth, all in itself, until the time is right. We are being very protected and watched over now, held very safe and secure, no matter where we are, as things are always divinely orchestrated.

With much love and gratitude,

Universal Copyright 2008 is authorized here. Please distribute freely as long as the is included as the resource and this information is distributed on a non-commercial no charge basis.

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 10:18 PM
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1. The following book excerpt accompanied the E-mail notice...
From Heaven's Gate:

Below are some common experiences of leaving the old world behind, what they mean,
and some tools for comfort:

* You suddenly feel like you have jumped off a cliff with no net, with strong feelings of no
sense of place and nothing to hold onto.

This is an indication that you have made a separation from older and denser
energies that are now residing where you are not. This occurs many times during
the ascension process, each time that a critical mass is met within and sometimes
without. This feeling always passes in time, even though it can feel very
uncomfortable when it is occurring. We can take comfort in knowing that these
feelings always pass, and that we eventually begin to recognize and accept them
the more often they occur.

* No one seems to notice you, pay attention to you, or give you much, if any, regard.

Although this can create uncomfortable feelings of dis-respect, irreverence and
even abuse, know that the individuals that are not "seeing" you are in a
completely different space. In the old world, many individuals have not yet
evolved out of themselves, and thus, are seeing through a substantial wall of
density or ego. It is still all about what is inside of them, as they are not yet ready
to see that everything around them is part of one beautiful whole, that each and
every one of us is a brilliant light comprising that whole, and we are all one. The
higher we vibrate, the more invisible we become, and the more noticeable it is.
You will know when you are "seen" and revered, and these are the individuals
that you will eventually choose to spend time with. The nature spirits always see
us, and they are wonderful to spend time around. Staying in your own personal
sanctuary can help as well. As more and more souls on the planet begin not
taking things personally, they will be freed up and begin to see what is around
them as well.

* It is difficult to be in crowds and you are no longer able to participate in anything that
has to do with group energy.

Unless the group is a very unusual one, where each and every member is
honored and respected for who they are and what they are there to contribute,
with equal amounts of involvement, and a similar purpose that is a passion for
each member, groups will no longer work for you. In higher level groups there
are no leaders and everyone is on equal turf and very "seen," with much
gratitude and reverence. Also, being around groups or crowds brings in a large
array of differing energy, and the more highly sensitive we become, the less we
are able to process or handle too much differing energy all at once. In the higher
realms, things are very simple as so much of anything vibrating lower has been
transmuted or shed. There is not so much density or variation to wade through
or feel. Opinions do not exist and all of the energy is always going in the same
direction. Thus, groups from the old world can feel downright awful once we
have departed from that world. Fun groups that are here to vibrate fun and
enjoyment, with no agendas while everyone involved is going in the same
direction are always good ones to be involved with at any time on our journey.

* You feel very lonely, have but a few friends and loved ones left that you regularly connect
to, and no one really thinks like you do, nor understands your view of reality.

We can try time and again to make new friends, connect with new people, and
join new groups, but unless these energies are vibrating where we are, it can
always seem that we are going in two very different directions. It is very
common with the ascension process to feel like everyone else is at the end of one
long tunnel, so very far away and difficult to reach. In addition, the more we
evolve, the more we find that New Age and "spiritual" groups no longer fit, as
many times they contain old and stale energy, as well as spending far too much
time focusing on intentional spirituality, which does not exist is the higher
realms. It can be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to go back to energies that
we have evolved out of...they become simply intolerable. Love always vibrates
high, and even though we may not see eye to eye with everyone we encounter or
connect to, connecting to the energy of love can always serve as the one and only
connector or commonality and will keep alive relationships that may have
otherwise dissolved.

* You have simplified your life to a large degree, removed yourself from lower and denser
energies, and you feel that there is nowhere left to go.

Congratulations! You have now reached your center, or rather the eye of the
storm, the space in between thoughts, the now, and where it all is. In addition,
the higher vibrating realities have not yet been created, thus, there is nowhere to
go that matches where you are now vibrating. Once we reach the eye of the
storm, we begin to effortlessly create much of anything that we need or want. We
begin creating effortlessly, as all we need do is be still, entertain a thought very
randomly, and what we desire to connect to arrives in no time. I have this
experience all the time, as I know many of you do as well, so I know it to be very
true and very possible. Very soon, this will be the only reality that we experience,
and this is happening now. Feeling confident enough in leaving the old world
behind, will naturally place us here. This is a very protected space as well.

* You no longer have a desire to heal others, bring up the vibration of the planet, teach new
ways of being, read spiritual materials, meditate, SAVE anything or anyone, or
participate in anything that has a spiritual intent.

The planet has now reached a new level. Your job is over. And even before this
new level was reached, after each of us reaches a certain level of frequency
within, we are now ready to lose that old purpose and get a real life. This means
that we do not need to speak about spiritual matters, we do not need to read
about them, and we do not need to learn anything new. We come to know that
being spiritual occurs very naturally 24/7. We are then simply being spiritual
without having an intent to do so. Having an intent places us outside of our
center and also comes from an old ego stance. Saving others or meddling with
intentional desires to help others when not asked, is also very out of alignment
with being an Earth Angel. Spontaneously offering spiritual guidance or
messages to others fits in this category as well. There is one exception to all of
this and it has to do with our store-fronts. Because our store-fronts exist on the
dimensional border, and not in the old reality, they will serve to assist others in
getting to the next plateau, or to the other side. In this way, we will be asked for
assistance, and those asking will be poised and ready to receive what they need
through our store-fronts.

* You are so tired and weary of the old reality, that you do not care about anything
anymore and simply give up with disappointment, exhaustion, apathy, and what feels
like depression with a strong desire not to be here anymore. You think that nothing will
EVER change. You are beyond discouraged.

You are now ready to be in the eye of the storm. You are now ready to leave the
old behind. You needed to not care about what is happening elsewhere, as what
is happening elsewhere no longer has anything to do with you. You had not yet
realized that you had "died" and crossed over into a new reality. You were still
hanging around in the old world and believing it was your world and about you.
The outside, or old world, had to become so unpleasant that you would be
willing to let it go. It felt acutely unpleasant, as you no longer belong there
because you have died and are now being re-born. You will know when you
have taken the plunge and trusted or become exhausted enough to let it all go,
when you find yourself it states of great peace, contentment, trust, and calm. It is
then that all your needs will be miraculously met with ease and you will feel a
peace you have never known. And will eventually meet others who
are here as well and unite to create something very new.
But before we can create something very new in a very new reality, we must first
rejuvenate and restore ourselves.

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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:09 PM
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2. K/R A wonderful description of the Energy surrounding the Sat/Uranus Opposition
I read a few articles today which seem to echo Heaven's Gate... mainly, that the positive effect of the opposition (which peaked today 9/15) is about Uranus's role in tearing down the old so that new may come into being. No need to try and go back to the old.. stale energy...

i.e. a scope from Rob Brezny's Free Will:

Down one path lies a tumultuous obsession -- a compulsive, tormented hunt like Captain Ahab's pursuit of Moby Dick. In the other direction, a graceful chase beckons, more in the manner of Sir Galahad's pure-hearted search for the Holy Grail. Choose one fork and your quarry will be beastly, impossible, and frustrating. If you choose the other fork, your quarry will be magical, earthy, and transformative.

Johnathon Cainer said:

Imagine that you have been living in a home with a leaky roof. Water pours in whenever it rains. And you have become adept at the strategic placement of collection buckets. You have got so good at damage limitation that you can almost do it in your sleep. Then, one day, someone fixes up the property. You no longer have to go through all that rigmarole. Do you feel happy because you are now free from that responsibility? Or deprived because you had been enjoying the chance to exercise that skill? Be glad of what is changing. Soon, many dramas will unfold around us as Saturn and Uranus renew their intense opposition. But the healing 'triple conjunction' of Jupiter, Neptune and Chiron remains powerful too.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:04 AM
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3. wow
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:40 PM
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4. Your second posting really speaks to me IHAD. So much of what I've been feeling
is described:

"No one seems to notice you, pay attention to you, or give you much, if any, regard."
I've *hated* that feeling of invisibility. If nothing else, it's inconvenient! Now I understand why it might be happening.

"You feel very lonely, have but a few friends and loved ones left that you regularly connect
to, and no one really thinks like you do, nor understands your view of reality."
Yes, I have a couple of friends I can talk to about this stuff, but I do feel the need to connect with others who would understand, and are experiencing the same things.

"You no longer have a desire to heal others, bring up the vibration of the planet, teach new
ways of being, read spiritual materials, meditate, SAVE anything or anyone, or
participate in anything that has a spiritual intent."
My apathy about many things the last few months has astonished me. Now I understand better why I've been feeling that way. I'm not sure I get why it's negative to "participate in anything that has a spiritual intent." Spiritual issues are still very important to me!

"You are so tired and weary of the old reality, that you do not care about anything
anymore and simply give up with disappointment, exhaustion, apathy, and what feels
like depression with a strong desire not to be here anymore. You think that nothing will
EVER change. You are beyond discouraged."
I wouldn't say I'm beyond discouraged, but I *am* feeling the apathy. I keep waiting for things to happen...

Anyway, thanks for posting that--it's helpful and reassuring to find that there's a reason for what I've been feeling.

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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:52 PM
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14. This rings true for me
She has described the past five years of my life perfectly. I'm so glad to know others are experiencing this too. I don't know what is going to come. I have lost 3 family members since December 2008 and I'm beginning to wonder if I will have a family at all when this ascension is complete. And I wonder if I will have any friends as nearly all of my friends over the years have recently been exposed to me as not having my best interests at heart. And yet I am strangely at peace with it all. It is definitely going to be a new, clean start.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:43 PM
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5. This is the most significant post she has yet made. I am alarmed, but feel it as a normal part.
Stay in your positive space, especially if/when suffering occurs. Send love, pray love, visualize love to any and all who suffer.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 03:58 PM
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6. What do you think about her severing so many connections?
I also think something significant shifted within the past week. After hemming and hawing, I have articulated what I wanted to leave behind and what I want the next stage of my life to look like.
I have also made some new ties and severed some old ones. So I'm somewhat in agreement with Karen's message.
However, all those broken ties that Karen listed makes me wonder whether Karen is taking it too far, that's she using ascension as an excuse to be rude or harsh.
I know I'm no way near as talented as she is in picking up the Universe's messages but I don't think that means I have to check critical thinking at the door.
What do you think?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:12 PM
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7. I think she may be applying her personal experience to everyone's timing
What I mean is, I believe that everyone's timing for the Shift is different. I severed a lot of ties in my own life two years ago--none in my family, though--and most recently I have experienced most of the symptoms she outlined in the supplemental piece that Dream posted. Right now it's Karen's time for realigning. If that means she has to sever ties with family members, that's her own business, IMO--we don't know the whole story there, so we'll have to take her at her word. However, I don't think that means that it's now time for everyone reading her messages to do the same. I think everyone's time will vary, as will the intensity, severity, and frequency of the severing or other alterations everyone will have to make.

I also get the impression that it's not as cut and dried as Karen describes--that we're either "there" or "here" so completely. I am on that threshold she describes, as I think most of us are. I feel that we are fine in that gray area that allows us to go back and forth as much as need be.

The most important thing, as always, is that we should listen to our own instinct as to what we should do next, and we'll "get there" just fine.

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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:24 PM
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8. MG
You are a voice of reason! Good way of explaining the ascension.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 05:32 PM
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9. SC

I had to do a LOT of studying for my article on 2012 and try to find a way to present the subject of the ascension in an objective, neutral way. There are so many seers who are heavily influenced by their own personal experiences and interpretations of the information they're receiving, I had to find the nuggets of truth in all the "hair on fire" missives by comparing them all and figuring out where the common ground lay. And--son of a gun--the common ground was always in the middle--the more moderate interpretations of our future. That's helped me learn not to fear what's coming. :hug:
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:52 PM
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11. Perhaps Karen is coming from the same place I am.
Maybe her parents are of the "fundie" persuasion, and judge her or preach "at her". I've had to let go of my relationship with my favorite Aunt, who is one of my Mom's remaining siblings because of her views and beliefs (dogma) Some of my own children have all but eliminated me from their lives because of religious dogma. I sometimes feel like the invisible woman to my own family, and decided to let them go their way, and I'll go mine. I still love them, but don't need their negativity in my life. They are becoming the "blind who will not see" and are being sucked in by the freeper mentality. I refuse to be a burden on my children, and I refuse to allow them to be a burden on me. I no longer even try to persuade them. Those that remain in my life, make up for those I've lost. Very sad , but true.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:13 AM
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12. lucky you!
It probably helps a lot to examine a number of perspectives, to find that common thread and get a sense of where personal filters end and "reality" begins.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 06:24 PM
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10. +1, with hugs....



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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 11:55 PM
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15. I don't think she's being rude or harsh, I read it as if she may
not have a choice in leaving these folks behind as I sense a real sadness here, especially about her daughter. I know this has been my experience. My guides tell me it is their choice to make and that the most loving thing I can do is leave them alone and let them make that choice.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:32 AM
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13. I've been wandering in and out of that space
for the last 7 or 8 years. At first I was trying desperately to get back 'in the world' and then hating when I was there because people were so gawdawful. My ties were severed pretty abruptly, and most of the new ties I tried to make didn't last because I was in such a different place than the people around me. Very, very painful experience to have been so alone for so long, but then I was always a misfit even in my own family. My move to Maine was exhilirating and terrifying.

And then, this summer just as I reached that point where I had zero desire to go out there, I'm forced to because whoever belongs in this physical space has not yet arrived. I hate to even think, let alone write, this but I reached a point where I was even wishing all my fur n'featherbabies would leave so I could leave too.

I have started being able to manifest quickly and effortlessly again. I discovered my old printer isn't compatible with my new laptop. A few days later a new printer turned up on Craigslist. It's brand new and working, but the owner, just a couple towns away, doesn't like it. She was going to return it, but decided instead to just give it away. Somehow, I ended up being the first person to contact her. Or she liked my email request best. Or something. We're arranging the pickup now.

I also was looking at videocams at Wallies the other day. Luna gets hysterically funny whenever I use the hose -- attacking with snapping jaws a la scissorshands, lol. I want to video him and send it in to "America's funniest pet videos." Then yesterday at my job training, the young woman next to me was showing pix of her family and mentioned she needed to get her camera back. I mentioned I needed to get a videocam. It turned out she was referring to a video cam, and offered to loan it to me as soon as she gets it back.

Quick. Effortless. I think I need to be distracted and exhausted to stay "out of my own way" sometimes to reach new levels. :D

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