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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:53 PM
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Mars Rover Spirit image -- what do you think of this?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 02:54 PM by dotcosm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=509693&in_page_id=1770

Original images here:

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/panoramas/spirit/

(high res orig image - add "http" in front of the slashes - //photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA10214.jpg

Please no snarkiness, I know it'll be hard to resist, but I'm curious about some logical explanations for what seem to be optical illusions. Once you see the human-like figure, it's hard to trick your brain into seeing anything else, but that's exactly how optical illusions work.

Thing is, I see a couple of additional figures, but then I have a good imagination!

I've circled the 3 images that I can see -- do you see them?

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:57 PM
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1. You're not kidding!
It's hard to resist!

Actually the top one is a little freaky.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:58 PM
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3. I know!
The second one, just to the right of the "sitting lady" looks like a guy diving for cover beneath the ledge, with his elbow sticking up in the air. And the one on the right looks like he's running back to these other two.

Weird huh???
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:58 PM
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2. Honestly, I can only see a 'big-foot' in the one on the left. The other 2 look like rocks.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:00 PM
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4. So you're looking for logical explanations.
The logical explanation is that it's being recognized by your brain as a human figure.

Is that not sufficient? Much like the bally-hooed "face on Mars", it's probably very likely that viewed from a slightly different angle or with slightly different lighting, it looks nothing like a person.

What's your point?

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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:10 PM
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8. Why do I have to have a point?
Sometimes just posting things for curiosities sake is enough, no? This is the science forum after all.

Points belong in GDP.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:24 PM
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9. It just seemed from the tone of your post...
that unless someone had a suitable "logical explanation" for the image, well then it must be a human-like alien living on Mars!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:01 PM
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15. Frankly, no; that was not the intended tone at all
If anything, I'd like someone to demonstrate another way of looking at the shapes so that I "don't* see the figures that I see -- like when shown one of those images that can be interpreted in 2 ways and how unless someone points out the alternate way, it's difficult to see it (sometimes even when they *do* show you it's still hard to see).

Here, this is a classic example of what I'm talking about:

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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:02 PM
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5. Here are closer views:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:08 PM
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7. Those are very strange rocks compared to the surrounding landscape
at least. If the are rocks, they look carved.

Very interesting.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:34 PM
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12. why is the roadrunner on mars?
little mermaid i understand, but roadrunner?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:06 PM
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6. Maybe that explains the longevity of the craft.
Martian mechanics are keeping it going.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM
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10. Looks about right


I doubt a guy in an ape suit could breathe pure carbon dioxide, however.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:33 PM
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11. the one on the right looks most 'rock-like' of all of the rocks
the middle one looks like a dog's head to me, and the one on the left is paddling a canoe.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:38 PM
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13. Aren't those rocks like 2 feet from the camera?
That would make the 'man' and the 'dog' all of what, three inches? Micro Midgets on Mars?

Your brain is hardwired by millions of years of evolution to quickly pick out certain shapes from any background, with a strong tendency towards false positives.

False Positive=you get stressed out unnecessarily, but are less likely to be eaten.
False Negative=you die or fail to recognize a mate. Both bad.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:55 PM
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14. Martian action figures? Lilliputians?
:D
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:46 PM
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16. It's a Martian Yeti!
This pretty much has to be an illusion.
But it isn't the first time.
I was sure there was a rusted out '48 Packard in the first
Viking photos too...
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:02 PM
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17. Kind of looks like
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:25 PM
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18. They're ridges and nothing more
The rightmost is the easiest to see... a rock and shadow. The top one is hardest to discern, but if you go to the link and look at the second picture, it too is clearly just a rocky outcropping.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:21 AM
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19. I see a rock. And two more rocks.
(Actually, I can see that it looks vaguely human-esque, but it isn't like I can't see it any other way)
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 07:09 AM
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20. It looks just like pareidolia. nt
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:45 PM
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21. Why did the guy sitting on the rock smack the guy crawling away?
Is he just going to keep sitting there yelling and shaking his stick, or will he try to prevent the other guy from riding away on his sand-frog?

Tune in next week, same time, same channel!

:P
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:52 PM
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22. I read that NASA says the figure on the left is about
2 inches tall and is formed from rocks. Nothing to see here, folks.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:07 PM
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23. Of *course* they say that
;)
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PhD Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:15 AM
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25. Two-inch Martian rock men?
We're doomed!!!
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:40 PM
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24. Revealed at last, the true interpretation!
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