Symptoms and treatment of Swine Flu . . .

[defendandprotect]

Dr. Kent Holtorf talks with Fox News about the symptoms and treatment of H1N1 (Swine Flu).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLoL_-rFYNQ

1. The swine flu is simply another flu. It is not unusually deadly.

2. This is the first time both seasonal and pandemic flu vaccines will be administered. Both seasonal flu and swine flu vaccines will require two inoculations. This is because single inoculations have failed to produce sufficient antibodies. This is an admission that prior flu vaccines were virtually useless. Can you trust them this time?

3. Adjuvants are added to vaccines to boost production of antibodies but may trigger autoimmune reactions. Some adjuvants are mercury (thimerosal), aluminum and squalene. Why would you sign a consent form for your children to be injected with mercury, which is even more brain-toxic than lead?

4. This is the first year mock vaccines have been used to gain FDA approval. The vaccines that have been tested are not the same vaccines your children will be given.

5. Over-vaccination is a common practice now in America. American children are subjected to 29 vaccines by the age of two. Meanwhile, veterinarians have backed off of repeat vaccination in dogs because of observed side effects.

6. Modern medicine has no explanation for autism, despite its continued rise in prevalence. Yet autism is not reported among Amish children who go unvaccinated.
7. Researchers are warning that over-use of the flu vaccine and anti-flu drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza can apply genetic pressure on flu viruses and then they are more likely to mutate into a more deadly strain.

8. Most seasonal influenza A (H1N1) virus strains tested from the United States and other countries are now resistant to Tamiflu (oseltamivir). Tamiflu has become a nearly worthless drug against seasonal flu.

9. Public health officials are irresponsible in their omission of any ways to strengthen immunity against the flu. No options outside of problematic vaccines and anti-flu drugs are offered, despite the fact there is strong evidence that vitamins C and D activate the immune system and the trace mineral selenium prevents the worst form of the disease.




Compliments of another website and presume other stations have been reporting this
same info --


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EDITED TO ADD THIS --

Flu Shots Delayed in Canada
The Wall Street Journal 10/7/09
TORONTO -- An unpublished Canadian study that suggests getting an annual flu shot may make it easier to contract swine flu has caused most provincial governments in Canada to postpone or limit seasonal-flu vaccination programs.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125487330214569325.html

Will you get the H1N1 flu vaccine?
http://online.wsj.com/community/groups/que...1n1-flu-vaccine

[Why Syzygy]

1. kick

Thank you.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

2. Fox News? Really?

What other website did you find this on? Please tell me it isn't Global Research.

[defendandprotect]

9. Have no idea . . .

As I said, I picked it up from another website -

I don't watch Fox, of course --

Presume that these warnings are going out in a general way?

What's Global Research?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

10. A nutjob conspiracy website that is forbidden on DU

But nevertheless keeps popping up whenever this topic appears.

[omega minimo]

3. How can "mock" vaccines qualify the real thing for approval?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Oh, that's made up. Just like the rest of the nonsense.

In fact, the OP complains in other threads because they tested the real vaccine with children.

[Horse with no Name]

8. LOL

Simply posted by someone with no knowledge of a "mock up" vaccine. Piece of propaganda shit.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19408126/New-H1N1-Swine-Flu-Vaccine-Contains-AdjuvantsEuropean-Medicines-Agency

[Horse with no Name]

4. FOX NEWS?

The swine flu is "simply another flu"????
Are you daft?

Other stations are NOT reporting this anti-vaccine woo-woo shit. I truly cannot believe someone dragged it here from FAUX NEWS???

[Why Syzygy]

12. Swine flu mild for now, but could worsen

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSN06439761


Areas Hit Hard by Swine Flu in Spring See Little Now
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/08/health/08flu.html?hp


Ordinary flu jab may protect against H1N1 - study
http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN0644527820091006


Seasonal Flu Shot Some Help vs. Swine Flu?
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091006/seasonal-flu-shot-some-help-vs-swine-flu

[elocs]

13. Well, I "could" win the lottery. n/t

[BuyingThyme]

5. Get in bed, drink lots of fluids, and stay away from me.

No big deal.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. I particularly like the bit about Amish children not being diagnosed with autism.

That was particularly cute.

Btw, we're missing you over on the moon threads.

[pnwmom]

11. Thimerosal is a preservative that can be avoided by using vaccine only

from a single use container. My own doctor has children and she will only get the thimerosal-free vaccine for them, since there is no advantage (other than larger container sizes) of the thimerosal-containing vaccine as opposed to the single-use preservative-free vaccine.

Adjuvant is a different matter. An adjuvant is added to increase the potency of a vaccine. I read that in Canada they were going to be adding adjuvant to the vaccine to spread the vaccine farther (so less material would be needed in an injection), but that they weren't going to be doing that in this country. Hopefully that's still true. Knowing about possible neurological effects of aluminum, I'd prefer to leave that out of my vaccine, too -- as long as it can be manufactured without it.

They no longer think 2 vaccines will be necessary, except for young children who have little built-up immunity to related viruses.

[dixiegrrrrl]

14. This DU story suggests mercury IS an issue.

To Improve Access to H1N1/Swine-Flu Vaccine, Washington State Suspends Limits on Mercury!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=222x71166

[pnwmom]

23. I'm not saying mercury isn't an issue, but that mercury can be avoided

if you only accept a vaccine from a single use container.

Why did they pack some in multi-use containers? To save some money? I don't know.

When I wanted the killed-virus polio vaccine for my child, and my (then) doctor's office recommended and only would provide the live vaccine, I had to search out a place where I COULD get the killed virus vaccine. It turned out to be the health department, where I had to wait a couple of hours, but got the safer vaccine. Five years later I had another child, and the govt. had changed its recommendation -- and now all children were getting the killed virus.

[HuckleB]

15. Swine Flu Vaccinations Start as Officials Attack Myths

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/us/07flu.html

A quick Google search notes that Dr. Holtorf is a regular Fox "interviewee." It's difficult to find MD's who agree with what he is pushing in regard to the swine flu vaccine.

[uppityperson]

16. B.S. #2-different viruses require different vx's. Good grief. 1st c/o of vxing w/multitypes, now

saying that because different viruses require their own vaccine that means....GIANT leap here..."This is because single inoculations have failed to produce sufficient antibodies. This is an admission that prior flu vaccines were virtually useless."

Yup, rather like saying because measles vaccine doesn't protect you from tetanus, it is "virtually useless".

That is just to start. As for the rest? Same piffle.

[Why Syzygy]

17. Evidence that the seasonal flu is being reported as effective for "swine"

http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUSN0644527820091006

[uppityperson]

18. Only 1 report so far, 1 reported exactly opposite, & I can see a possible reason

"Most studies have shown the annual vaccine provides little or no protection against H1N1, likely because it is very different.

One study in Canada suggested that in fact people who got seasonal flu vaccines may be more likely to become infected with H1N1, although the World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention both expressed doubts about the findings."

For your link/study.
The reason I think of is that if you are already sick with "regular" seasonal influenza, your body might be ready to more easily be injured by H1N1 influenza. If you're already coughing, sniffling, your respiratory tract is irritated by reacting to reg influenza, maybe H1N1 can more easily take up residence?

So if you have the "reg" vx, and don't GET reg influenza, your resp tract is in good shape and can more easily fight off H1N1?

[Why Syzygy]

19. Lots of conflicting information floating around ..

Only eight people who had been vaccinated against seasonal flu were among the swine flu cases, the researchers reported. They found that 29 percent of unvaccinated people in the study became infected with H1N1, versus 13 percent of vaccinated people.

None of the vaccinated people died, but 35 percent of swine flu patients who died had not been vaccinated against seasonal flu, they found.

"Seasonal vaccination might protect against the most severe forms of the disease," the researchers wrote.

[this_side_up]

20. Does anyone know if a female child

survived the 1918-19 Spanish flu and gave birth to children 30-40 years
later, would those children have any immunity to swine flu?

[trotsky]

21. No, they wouldn't. n/t

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

22. There is no 2nd shot for the seasonal flu vaccine.

[gkhouston]

25. I believe there is, but only for extremely young children, say < 2 years of age. n/t

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

26. CDC recommends a 2nd shot for children ages 6 months to 9 years that have never been vaccinated.

The 2nd shot is supposed to be given approximately 28 days after the first shot. That isn't anything special about this years vaccine though.

[sam sarrha]

24. i think the "adjuvants" are to kill contaminate cells... the labs get dirty, things get contaminated

[Why Syzygy]

27. They are intended to

boost the effectiveness resulting in the need to use less *vaccine* material. The claim is they stretch the supply so more people can be vaccinated.