First sign of good faith, Mr. President , Get rid of Rahm!

[PurgedVoter]

Seriously, he is supposed to be all about fighting the Republican dogs. Sounds great to me!

But it is now quite clear, that he will be happy to eat from the same bowl and wear the same collar. So far he has supported the same masters the Republicans have supported, and managed to help you give away every bit as much to them as the previous administration. I know exactly what 'maybe' means. I also know exactly what 'we'll see' means. Rahm came off as a tough, serious fighter, but he has not shown an ounce of spine so far. Give me a brave man like Dr. Dean any day.


Let me explain health care clearly and slowly. Public option means you go down in history, loved by the people and hated by the ultra rich. No public option means you go down in history ignored by the people and hated by the ultra rich. The public option is not optional, if you remove it, we are back to square one. Dr. Dean knows this. Rahm does not get it.

Let me explain stimulus clearly and slowly. Give money for productive labor, means survival and stimulus. Give money to money market manipulators means trickle down. None of your current economic advisers get this. Not a one of them.

No matter what you do the right wing will hate you. They hate Clinton, and he was the best president they ever had. No matter what you do the fundamentalists will hate you. They hate Carter and he was the most Christian president we have ever had.

It is time to catch up with America, Mr. President. 70% want the public option, the remaining 30% are deluded fascists willing to sell out our economy, environment, independence, honor and ethics. A lot of them might be good people, just like a lot of the folk that supported Hitler were good people. Seriously if you give that 30% what they want, they will hate you and blame you for the destruction their plans cause.

It is time for you to listen to the 'Liberal' side Mr. President. You know, the ones that use logic and compassion together. You know, the 'Liberals' who believe in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and all. You know, the 'Pie in the Sky Liberals' who believe in justice for all.

Seriously, Get rid of Rahm!

[lamp_shade]

1. NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[vaberella]

2. I actually like Rahm. Makes the Repubs think that he's on their side.

Actually it makes DUers think that he's on the Repubs side at times. It works well for Obama to have him around. He shakes up the waters and makes everyone nervous.

[Faryn Balyncd]

13. Actually, it truly puts him on their side.

[vaberella]

14. It doesn't actually.

Rahm has said and done nothing that suggest he's not for a public option. I read the stupid WSJ article people were whinging about...nothing was a direct quote except for two sentences which said nothing about how he or the President, I should say, doesn't support the public option. That's the writers interpretation and definitely DUers who want to whinge.

[Faryn Balyncd]

16. Rahm hired his brother Zeke whose "reform" is to PRIVATIZE MEDICARE.......

The Emanuel-Fuchs "Guaranteed Healthcare Access Plan" is a voucherized all-private-insurance-mandate plan which would not only have no public option for Americans under 65, but would privatize Medicare itself over time.

Rahm hired Zeke as a "White House adviser" on health care.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/3684




Zeke's plan is an insurance CEO's wet dream - mandatory purchase of private insurance subsidized by the taxpayer.

Every statement Rahm makes needs to be interpreted with knowledge of Rahm's corporatist, anti-public-plan prejudice.

[vaberella]

17. Give me the quotes of Rahm's statements.

None of which are clear enough to make those distinctions. Secondly, there were only TWO direct quotes from Rahm. Third, first off I refrain many times from MF's posts since this was a person who was initially against the public option UNTIL Dean decided it was good and then went that way. Fourth, Zeke is only as a finance advisor and nothing more. Obama is the President not, Rahm...

All I'm seeing from your post, and your statements is that you're living on conspiracy theories, or wannabe conspiracy theories to get your point across.

I read the article and saw the so-called quotes from Rahm----he said nothing out of hand. It's the writer who worded her "interpretation" to cause trouble. You should read that article first before jumping on this bandwagon.

[Faryn Balyncd]

18. "Fourth, Zeke is only as a finance advisor and nothing more."(sic)

Is this a joke?




(Perhaps Rahm's beliefs are better deduced from observing Rahm's ACTIONS, rather than listening to Rahm's "quotes".)




Here are some details regarding the type of "reform" Zeke is interested in financing:
http://www.reformplans.com/Plan-Briefs/Universal-Health-Care-Vouchers.html
http://virtualmentor.ama-assn.org/2005/07/jdsc1-0507.html

Here is Zeke himself putting his best spin on why he thinks Single Payer is contrary to American "core values", and why he thinks we should finance vouchers with a value added tax:
http://bostonreview.net/BR30.6/emanuelfuchs.html






So, if one believes in a public option, why hire Zeke Emanuel, who wants to privatize public health plans, "only as a finance adviser and nothing more"?



(Or, forgive me for thinking that when Rahm says we shouldn't draw a "line in the sand" about a public option, that the reason just might be that Rahm never has supported a public option at all, but wants to go, as does his brother, in the diametrically opposite direction.)

[quiller4]

3. Hell NO. I really like Rahm and think he was one of the better appointments. n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. Dumbest post of the day.

Congrats!

[glitch]

6. Response to Dumbest post of the day. nt

[kenfrequed]

19. most content free response to a post today

Right back at ya.

[madrchsod]

5. actually it`s his brother....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5883053


remember,it`s still obama`s decision.

[uppityperson]

15. or...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6006293&mesg_id=6006293
and its twin brother
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6005979&mesg_id=6005979

[emulatorloo]

7. Realize this -- the Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Mudoch, just like Fox

They spin things, so I would not believe everything I read in it.

[girl gone mad]

8. Wow..

you really brought them all out of the woodwork.

[Hydra]

9. Rahm apologists?!?!?!

Now I've seen everything.

Good post, OP.

[lk9550]

21. Agreed

How pathetic.

[nichomachus]

10. I think Rahm was part of the deal Obama made with the corporations

The corporatists would support Obama for the presidency as long as he agreed to put the corporatist whore Rahm in charge. Just as the Christian right agreed not to oppose him too much, if he would do their bidding once in office.

[checks-n-balances]

11. Good work!

The triangulation strategies that worked in the nineties are clearly selling us down the river post-Bush. I'd venture to say that people who elected Obama don't want rethug lite anymore, especially the worse this economy gets. And in the long run the future of democracy here depends on the change we thought we could believe in.

[Faryn Balyncd]

12. K&R - You nailed it.

[lk9550]

20. Agreed

Why does he have that Zionist as an advisor?