How many Gardasil commercials will be enough?

[mhatrw]

How many times will we have Gardasil shoved down own throats 24/7 by Merck's highly proficient marketing team before Merck's greedy executives finally decide enough is enough?

In how many states will Merck continue to push mandatory vaccinations before the mega-corporation finally decides to stop spending millions lobbying? How many more doctors will Merck pay ten of thousands in speaking fees before it's finally enough?

What will it take to satisfy Merck's CEO, who is already getting paid over $6 million a year?

Is there any condition that can be met that will stop Merck's marketing onslaught?

Is this a permanent situation? Gardasil ads on TV everyday, all the time?

What is it going to take to stop them?

[cosmik debris]

1. We don't have commercials on DU, only spammers. n/t

[mhatrw]

2. Your definition of spam is any argument you disagree with that you cannot logically counter. n/t

[cosmik debris]

3. This is not TV and you should not try to make it like TV

That's a bad idea and someone will eventually stop you.

[mhatrw]

8. I'm sure you are right. You have a giant corporation, the US government,

the television industry, DU's mods and a seemingly limitless legion of Big Pharma protectors on your side.

All Gardasil's questioners have one our side is logic and reason, so there is no way that we can possibly win.

Sooner or later you will find some way to censor us. So what are you so worried about? One Less (tm) girl's parents coughing up the $360 to Merck in the interim?

[cosmik debris]

12. So why are you trying to make this like TV

Are you going to continue this until Merck quits advertising on TV?

[mhatrw]

16. Continue what? Pissing you off with logic you cannot or do not feel

like taking the time to counter?

What do you have against the free and open expression of ideas? What do you have against the dissemination of information?

[cosmik debris]

20. All of your arguments have been effectively countered many times

I'm not going to waste time rehashing that.

I'm just trying to find out what you are attempting to achieve, why you think that belligerent tactics will achieve that, and How's that working out for you?

[mhatrw]

24. No time for "rehashing" arguments, but infinite time for abuse, dismissal and whining?

How many posts have you made on Gardasil threads over the past two weeks?

Now, how many of your posts discussed the health issues surrounding Gardasil substantially or informatively?

[cosmik debris]

29. I'd just like to know how much longer you will be spamming this forum?

What is your goal?

How do belligerent tactics contribute to achieving that goal?

How is that working out for you?

[mhatrw]

45. When are you going to stop beating your wife?

I'm just curious.

[cosmik debris]

46. I'm not married.

Now you answer my question.

What is your goal?

How do belligerent tactics contribute to that goal?

How is that working out for you?

[Hannah Bell]

11. you complain about the gardasil threads, but i notice you post on every single

one, & 99% of your posts consist of personal attack, unprovoked.

maybe if you stopped, there'd be fewer gardasil threads.

[cosmik debris]

13. So, It is all my fault?

If I would just shut up and be a good little sheep the problem would go away.

I'll make a deal with you. I will refrain from posting in this forum for three days if you and the other two major anti-merck posters will do the same. That would certainly prove your theory.

[mhatrw]

17. How about if you just refrain from posting unless you have something

substantial and informative to say?

[cosmik debris]

19. So, it is all my fault?

You have spammed this forum for a week without adding anything substantial or informative.

And you refuse to take responsibility for the bile and animosity you have spewed into this forum.

You just have to have some one to blame, if it is not Merck, it must be me.

[mhatrw]

25. LOL!

Who you jiving?

[HamdenRice]

22. From what I gather, he's not really capable of logical argument

If so, I've never seen it coming from him. If the only tool a carpenter has is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

If the only rhetorical tool a poster has is insult as a result of being bereft of information or insight ... well, you get the picture.

[cosmik debris]

23. Same tricks different thread

1. Change the subject.
2. Blame others.
3. use insults.
4. declare victory.

When are you going to learn some new tricks. We've already seen those so many times.

[mhatrw]

26. 5. Accuse others of using the very tactics you are using.

Bravo on all 5!

[HamdenRice]

30. I don't think he understands irony at all!

He's constantly doing that, but he never quite grasps it!

As a result, he also doesn't quite grasp the errr... "level of esteem" ... with which he is held here at DU.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[cosmik debris]

31. You're just carrying a grudge because I caught you showing off

your ignorance in another thread. But like every school yard bully, you back down when confronted.

[HamdenRice]

35. No I'm not and no you didn't

You proved that you could not read what I'd written, and if you can't do that, there's no point arguing with you.

Once again, the black knight claims victory.

[cosmik debris]

36. Yep same old tricks.

Blame others is your main weapon, but nobody buys it anymore because you have used it too many times.

You are always right and it is always someone else's fault.

And that's been your story for as long as I've seen your posts on DU.

Yawn.

[HamdenRice]

37. See post 26

and try to think deeply to understand what mhatrw is trying to tell you.

[cosmik debris]

39. You're not worth the effort, I've proved you wrong too many times.

[HamdenRice]

40. The black knight returns!

Yes, you've proved me wrong lo! those so many times!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Btw, how's that Waco intellectual salon getting along?

[cosmik debris]

43. So tell us about the newly discovered documents from the Soviet Archive

That were actually published in New York City in 1921.

That was one of your finer moments.

[kestrel91316]

4. So.........use your power to silence Merck: turn the boob tube OFF.

[mhatrw]

10. Well, that works for me. How about everyone else in the US?

Didn't think so.

[Liberal Veteran]

32. I'm fairly certain the US will manage just fine without your "expert opinion"...

:rofl:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

5. How about "One less, one less Gardasil commercial"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

6. Big Pharma should be banned from DTC advertising.

IF Big Pharma spent as much on research as advertising

Maybe Gardasil wouldn't be making some healthy girls sick, and some dead.

Big Pharma Spends More On Advertising Than Research And ...A new study estimates the US pharmaceutical industry spends almost twice as much on promotion as it does on research and development, contrary to the ...
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080105140107.htm - 53k

Health Blog : Big Pharma Emissaries Talk Over Ad Options With HillJul 17, 2008 ... Big Pharma should be banned from DTC advertising. Prescription drugs are not a consumer segment where it is a free for all. ...
blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/07/17/big-pharma-emissaries-talk-over-ad-options-with-hill/ -

[sharesunited]

7. Got a ways to go before they catch up to erectile dysfunction.

[cosmik debris]

9. Are you going to continue to post anti-merck threads on DU

as long as Merck continues to advertise on television?

[mhatrw]

14. I will make posts educating people about Gardasil once in while

when there is something new to discuss -- to your never-ending abuse, dismissals and calls for censorship (but, for some reason, never your civil, logical engagement).

Meanwhile, Merck will continue running the same ads and paying off the same doctors, lobbyists and politicians every day.

[cosmik debris]

15. Does once in a while mean 2-3 time a day?

How much is enough? What goal are you trying to achieve by carpet bombing this forum? How is that working out for you?

[mhatrw]

18. Once in a while means once in a while.

Several NEJM's articles just came out as well as a report of Merck using adulterated substances in their vaccines.

All were completely worthy of civil discussion. What is your problem with the civil discussion of health issues?

[cosmik debris]

21. You've been anything but civil.

How much is enough?

How's that working out for you?

Are belligerent tactics achieving your goal?

[mhatrw]

27. How's the switch from abuse mode to whining mode working for you? n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

41. Merck has enough cheerleaders here, someone has to speak out

[cosmik debris]

44. How is that working out for you?

Are you making any progress?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

47. I am speaking out, and not being run off, so yes, that is progress

every day that I stick it out and ignore the abuse is another victory for
speaking up and providing transparency.

[cosmik debris]

49. Progress toward what goal

I've not been able to get an answer to that question either.

What is the goal you are trying to reach by spamming this forum with anti merck threads?

[mhatrw]

52. One Less. n/t

[cosmik debris]

53. One less forum where reason prevails?

That seems to be your goal, but I'd like confirmation.

What is your goal?

[beam me up scottie]

50. Abuse? You mean like suggesting that someone's mom took away their video games?

Or calling them a sick puppy?

That kind of abuse?

You definitely are transparent, I'll give you that.

[Liberal Veteran]

55. BMUS, I was going to return Halo 3 to you, but my mom hid it from me until I clean the basement.

Is that okay with you?

[cosmik debris]

56. LMAO ROFL n/t

[beam me up scottie]

57. I'd better come over and help you.

You have to be careful with that roach killer, you know, they use it in vaccines to kill little girls.

[Liberal Veteran]

60. We donated all our roach killer to the hospital to inject in babies!

So it should be safe.

[beam me up scottie]

61. Oh, that's a relief!

Add that to the aluminum and mercury you sent them in February, and y'all should get a nice tax break.

Golly, when you add that to the kickbacks from Merck, your mom should soon be able to quit her job.

[cosmik debris]

28. Have you accomplished anything?

Other than pissing off a whole lot of people and driving away your target audience?

Was that your goal?

Has your strategy been successful? Successful at what?

It looks to me like your track record is worse than Merck's. Trotsky's post showed that about 75% of the responses disagreed with you.

Do you think that has changed by spamming this board?

What is your goal?

How do belligerent tactics further that goal?

How is that working out for you?

[Liberal Veteran]

33. Well, I for one think he/she/it has accomplished something.

He/she/it has conclusively proven to my satisfaction that the US is doing a piss poor job of teaching people how to think rationally and the basics of science.

[cosmik debris]

34. That might have been the goal

But we won't know until they answer the questions.

What is your goal?

How do belligerent tactics contribute to achieving that goal?

How is that working out for you?

[Liberal Veteran]

54. My goal is to counter the dis and mis information of the anti-vax, anti-pharma contigent.

Who like creationists, make the majority of their arguments from tiny gaps in knowledge or make wholly illogical and unscientific arguments based on a less than even rudimentary understanding in the subject they are trying to convince people that THEY (and they alone) know some deep dark evil conspiracy to poison us all.

[semillama]

38. ...

[beam me up scottie]

42. Everybody run around in circles and scream! Gardasil is teh evul!11!1!1!

[Evoman]

48. Why would we want to stop them from making commericals for a good product?

What I'm sick of is Wendy's commericals. I mean, they make an ok burger, and their Chile san Fingers is pretty good, but wayyyy to many commercials.

[beam me up scottie]

58. I hate the Hardees commercials too.

20 seconds of some slob loudly slurping up the cheese from his burger wrapper...:puke:

[Liberal Veteran]

59. What about good commercials for bad products? "Head on! Apply directly to the forhead!"

Or meet Bob! Bob is happy now that our snake oil pills have given him a raging permanent hard on (and apparently was made from Smilex Joker Poison based on that grin)!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

51. One more.

Or wait is it One less. I can't remember.

David