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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 12:10 PM
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Your best friend and what YOU can do if and when something
bad befalls him/her, or how to potentially prevent anything of the sort. I feed my little one Nutro. It may not be the best but she is doing quite well for her age. I also give her the Nutro snack sticks, something we call her "crack". More info at link:


http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogTip_vitamins.php

Dog Tip: Vitamins, Supplements and Ways to Use Them to Support Companion Animal Health


For this issue of Dog Tips, animal welfare volunteer Nancy Klein shares her longtime interest in holistic health. She has compiled the following guide with information adapted from the highly recommended book, Natural Healing for Dogs and Cats by Diane Stein.

Vitamins/Supplements and Their Uses

Vitamin C

* A deficiency in vitamin C is a deficiency in the healing, glandular, circulatory, immune, and regenerative abilities of the body. Vitamin C is a major factor in the formation and maintenance of bones and tissues, prevents cancer, and may prevent arteriosclerosis.
* The classic vitamin C deficiency is scurvy, with gum disease, loss of teeth, weakened bones, bleeding, bad breath, and general debilitation. Signs of clinical scurvy have been apparent under stress.
* In dogs, can totally resolve the problems of dysplastic hips in younger dogs and arthritis in older ones, as well as help or cure spinal myelopathy, ruptured discs, allergies, viral infections (including distemper), and skin problems. After the "cures," the pet needs to stay on C, but in lesser amounts.
* The vitamin is an antioxidant, a pollution fighter that cleans toxins from the blood and tissues.
* It helps protect against the side-effects of some veterinary drugs (including steroids/cortisone), and it is a major pain reliever.
* It keeps the teeth strong in aging pets and retards the aging process.
* Supplementing with vitamin C is a major disease preventive; therefore it's emphasized in the daily feeding plans.
* Supplementing with vitamin C can mean the difference between life and death in the case of a sick cat or dog.
* Contrary to myth and rumor, vitamin C will not cause kidney stones, it dissolves them.

The B Complex

* This range of vitamins is necessary for a healthy nervous system.
* Cats need almost twice as much of these vitamins as dogs do for proper absorption of nutrients throughout the body.
* These vitamins require each other to work and so are taken in the B-complex unit, with occasional additions of the other single B vitamins.
* Mouth, eyes, skin, gastrointestinal tract, and reproductive organs are B deficiency disease sites, as well as behavior, intelligence, and brain and nerve functions.
* Stress depletes the B vitamins, as it does vitamin C, and so does extremely cold weather.
* The individual B vitamins known to be of primary use for pets are listed in the following sections.

Vitamin B-1 (Thiamine)

* A major issue for cats, as supermarket cat foods may not provide enough of it.
* Results of this deficiency are brain damage, seizures, and loss of movement control, potentially leading to death.
* Treatment with the vitamin by injection effects full recovery within 24 hours.
* Many cat breeders supplement with B vitamins, and B-1 also helps hyperactivity, internal muscle weakness, flea resistance, appetite, learning ability, and intelligence.
* Cats that eat fish and cats or dogs on supermarket pet foods are more likely to be thiamine deficient.
* In dogs, B-1 deficiency signs are lack of appetite, vomiting, unsteadiness, and spasticity of the hind legs.
* Dogs also respond to B-1 as a flea repellant.
* A tablespoon of brewer's yeast contains 1.25 mg of B-1, but some pets are allergic to yeast and it should not be used on cats during urologic (FUS) attacks; a B-complex-50 from the health food store contains 50 mg and may be bought yeast free cheaply.

Vitamin B-2 (Riboflavin)

* A B-2 deficiency may lead to cataracts in both dogs and cats.
* Bloodshot eyes and conjunctivitis are often deficiency symptoms.
* This vitamin is necessary for red blood cell formation, antibody production, food metabolism, and growth.
* Riboflavin prevents birth defects and dandruff.


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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:32 AM
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1. Nutro is crap
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 12:33 AM by dropkickpa
They use pet grade meat sources, which means they are rejects from slaughterhouses and unfit for human consumption due to disease and such. They use buckets of carb sources that are crap junk food for dogs, not to mention the 3 biggest culprits in food allergies in dogs (corn and corn gluten meal, poultry fat, and wheat and wheat flour). Nutro also adds menadione to their kibble, which is just bad bad bad. Do a google search on "menadione dog food". They add near useless (poorly absorbed) ingedients (oxides and sulfates) to mask the diets nutritional insufficiency and fool the public into thinking their pet is getting a balanced diet. For someone always trumpeting the value of being nutritionally aware and how important proper vitamin and mineral intake is to health, I'd think you'd feed your best friend a better quality food so that you don't have to supplement til the cows come home (but only of they are slaughterhouse diseased rejects).

For $5 more a 35-40lb bag, you could feed your pet a much higher quality diet, and a bonus is that it will last longer as there are less fillers, so less is needed to be fed to meet the same nutritional need. And your dog will poop less (crap in crap out).

Vitamin C will NOT cure hip dysplasia. Hip dysplasia is a deformation of the hip joint, most often hereditary, that worsens with age due to abnormal wearing because of the malformation. The head of the femur does not ride in the hip socket correctly because the socket itself is malformed, often too shallow or misshapen. Vitamin C won't do a single damn thing for that. I have some snake oil I can sell you, and some wonderful dried frog pills that cure gout, zits, tennis elbow, and chronic halitosis. The bottle says "natural" on it, so you know it MUST be good!

The place the site you listed got their crap was from a book written by this genius (and I'll actually give you the link to my source!!)

http://www.dianestein.net/DianeSteinBio.htm
Diane Stein is the author of 25 books--so far--on Women’s Spirituality and the Goddess, Wicca, psychic techniques, metaphysics, healing and Reiki, natural remedies for people and pets, crystals and gemstones, and karmic release

...

she holds a Bachelor of Science in Education and English Literature from Duquesne University (1970) and a Master of Arts in English Literature from the University of Pittsburgh (1972).


Her bibliography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Stein
Essential Reiki: A Complete Guide to an Ancient Healing Art
" Essential Reiki Teaching Manual"
The Women's Book of Healing: Auras, Chakras, Laying on of Hands, Crystals, Gemstones, and Colors
All Women Are Healers: A Comprehensive Guide to Natural Healing
The Natural Remedy Book for Dogs & Cats
Natural Healing for Dogs and Cats
On Grief and Dying: Understanding the Soul's Journey
We Are the Angels: Healing Our Past, Present, and Future With the Lords of Karma
Essential Energy Balancing I: An Ascension Process
Essential Energy Balancing II: Healing the Goddess
Essential Energy Balancing III: Living With the Goddess
Diane Stein's Guide to Goddess Craft
Reliance on the Light: Psychic Protection with the Lords of Karma and the Goddess
Psychic Healing With Spirit Guides and Angels
Essential Psychic Healing: A Complete Guide to Healing Yourself, Healing Others...
A Woman's I Ching
The Goddess Celebrates: An Anthology of Women's Rituals
The Goddess Book of Days: A Perpetual 366 Day Engagement Calendar
Healing With Gemstones and Crystals (Crossing Press Healing Series)
Women's Spirituality Book (Llewellyn's New Age Series)
Healing With Flower and Gemstone Essences (Healing Series)
The Holistic Puppy
The Natural Remedy Book for Women
Lady Sun & Lady Moon: Poems
Prophetic Visions of the Future
Dreaming the Past, Dreaming the Future: A Herstory of the Earth
All Women Are Psychic (Women's Psychic Lives)
Casting the Circle: A Women's Book of Ritual
Pendulums and the Light: Communication With the Goddess
Innocence/Experience: Fiction


I see not a damned thing that qualifies this quack to give nutritional advice to slime mold, let alone a mammal.

dysplastic hips (note the deformation of the socket in how shallow it is and how the femoral head barely rides within the socket)


Normal hips (note how the socket itself is deeper and the femoral head seats itself within the socket much better)
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:44 AM
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2. So now you are a vet?
Is there any end to your internet scientific knowledge?:sarcasm:
Seiously, you think you know better than any professional don't you?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:02 PM
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3. Ph.D., Google U
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:41 PM
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4. DVM too!
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 03:42 PM by dropkickpa
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