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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 07:03 AM
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Recently recognized allergy to enzymes, anyone know of a
laundry detergent without enzymes? Years ago, we had problems with constant skin itch when the big push was made for detergent with enzymes. We switched brands years ago and things got better. I switched last year to the Sears product and have had itchy skin since. Forgot all about the enzyme connection. Cannot find any product out there at this time without enzymes. Any suggestions?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 07:10 AM
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1. Please explain.
Is it contact with unused detergent which gives you the problem or wearing clothers washed in it ? I've got a similar minor problem at present.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:04 AM
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6. I should have been more clear, I do not touch the dry soap
Edited on Sat Aug-26-06 08:05 AM by yy4me
powder, just use the recommended scoop in each load. It seems that, for the past two years or so, my skin, particularly on my back, is constantly itchy. Drives me crazy. Sometimes I will scratch and rub spots where nothing is visible. When this happened years ago, my doctor told me to stop using detergents with enzymes. Now, this was 20 years ago and I forgot all about the association. I think I was using Surf before but whatever it was, no itch problem. After I read something yesterday about enzymes, I read the box from the Sears detergent and sure enough, second ingredient mentioned is enzymes. Maybe there is no association, and the soap is great but I've got to try something else. I'll wash everything I come in contact with and see if this itchy feeling goes away. I've searched the internet and am having trouble finding anything without enzymes but did find a reference to the fact that detergents labeled "Non-Biological" do not have enzymes. I will go anywhere to try and find something. Later I'll hit the largest grocery store in town to read every box. Your thoughts will be of help and I will let everyone know what I find. I hope to find a powder since I have a storage problem for liquids.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 08:33 AM
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7. When I first had the problem
it affected my back. It was winter and I was sleeping wearing a white tee shirt. I thought it may have been a result of using Oxy Clean and fabric conditioner as well as detergent. The Doc. said I'd got dry skin anyway and recommended I stopped using those things, give up the the tee shirt and use white emulsifying oinment instead of soap to wash. She also gave me bundles of moisturisers for my skin. All prescriptions are free here soon as you reach 60 and so it cost me nix. Anyway - whole lot worked and problem cleared up.

Word of warning - if you've got an itch then dont scratch it ! That's what makes matters worse.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 07:26 AM
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2. Similar problem here with dryer sheets.
I tried them when they were first introduced and got a rash.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 07:28 AM
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3. soaps that use natural surfactants
There should be something out there. I've used them at one point. IIRC those products don't have added perfumes either.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 07:52 AM
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5. Sorry this shocks me
In the UK we always have a choice between "Biological" (contains enzymes) and "Non-Biological" detergents and all thev major brands make both.

Obviously I cannot recommend any US products but contact these people, Ecover they do an online service (check where to buy) sorry for the websit - it's British :eyes:
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 07:32 AM
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4. We only use hypoallergenic soaps
Edited on Sat Aug-26-06 07:34 AM by TalkingDog
for laundry. (All Free and Clear is fairly easy to find) Dr. Bronner's soaps for literally everything else (cleaning us, the house etc)

Also, my spousal unit's uncle owned a laundry in P'burgh and says people use WAY too much soap. Use about 1/2 of what they suggest, unless the clothes are very dirty. And every third wash, use no soap at all. Because as you have found out, the soap stays in the clothes.

Baking soda can boost the cleaning power, but again a small amount rather than what the SELLER is suggesting you use.

Good Luck.



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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 11:51 PM
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8. Check out Seventh Generation
http://www.seventhgeneration.com/

About Us
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:52 AM
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9. Thanks for the information. I will head for Wild Oats in a few days.
Is this product available at Whole Foods too?(Its closer) I will try it next. I bought a box of Trader Joe's
"Next to Godliness" detergent that I was assured was completely free of enzymes and allergens. I will try yours too. I checked out the web site, it has great information. I never thought I'd have so much trouble finding what I need. You all have been great.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:31 AM
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10. I got a sample in the mail in the 60s
when those enzymes first came out. I was poor so I used it.

I broke out from the neck down and from the wrists up, big, red, itchy blotches. It was horrible, and I knew what the problem was.

You can be allergic to enzymes, although the culprit is more likely the fragrance.

I've been able to use Arm & Hammer detergent. If I start to get itchy, though, I switch to Dr. Bronner's castile soap for a few loads. That seems to help.

You can get Dr. Bronner's at health food stores and camping gear outlets. Once you wash your face with the peppermint soap, you'll wonder why you ever bothered with anything else.
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:50 PM
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11. I use all free and clear
And avoid all powdered soaps like the plague. I also make sure to pour the liquid soap into the washer (with it already beginning to fill) before putting any clothes in. I only use half the recommended amount. I am poor, so the price is definitely right. I've found that I can use some scented fabric softners (liquid downy) but usually just stick to the unscented Downy. I am actually allergic to whatever the material is they make the sheets out of.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 07:17 PM
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12. Reduce the pH of rinse water.
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 07:23 PM by SimpleTrend
(I've had the itchy skin from laundry detergents ever since I was a child.)

I use an extra rinse cycle (yes, takes extra water), and the final rinse cycle I reduce the pH of the water. If you don't know how to reduce the pH of water, then maybe this'll help. My target pH for the final rinse cycle is about 6.0., though 6.5 would probably also work fairly well.

Most municipal water in the U.S. is pH adjusted to be slightly alkaline to increase the lifespan of water pipes. It's really hard to rinse all soap (alkaline) out of clothes with alkaline water.

This seems to keep my skin from being itchy even with enzyme based powdered detergents. My clothes also last longer.
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