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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:04 PM
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I just heard a disturbing statistic
Prop 8 was supported by African Americans, 70%-30%. (KFI radio news: 4:00)

(Whites and Latinos voted against it. )

I am shocked that so many who know discrimination first hand would vote for discrimination against others.


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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:04 PM
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1. Hey, the Mormons would love to be good little Republicans
So they take their discrimination with a smile
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:04 PM
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2. true.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:05 PM
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3. The view seems to be
that it's a "choice" we are all making (as opposed to race) and that essentially we're just being difficult to aggravate people. The arrogance in that makes me wish there was a GAYER gay that I could choose to show them what aggravating is. (sigh)

My two cents. Careful, I got the gay virus all over them.......
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:07 PM
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5. They don't get what the closet is all about, do they.
Just devastating.
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plaintiff Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:07 PM
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4. No ethnic group is immune to the "I got mine, fuck you" syndrome.
:grr:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:08 PM
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6. But straight women tend to vote in favor of gay marriage
Even though women as a group have not yet reached parity.
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plaintiff Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:26 PM
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15. sure, they know how men are.
(need a wry grin smilie here)
:silly:
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dennysp Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:08 PM
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7. Maybe they thought "NO" meant "YES"?
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:08 PM
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8. It's really hard to remain objective with statistics like that
I mean, I understands the reasons WHY black voters might be more likely to be bigoted against GLBT people but that certainly does not help what I'm feeling right now.

I feel betrayed and angry and hurt.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:12 PM
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13. I feel betrayed too.
No one is free when some are not.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:09 PM
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9. Yeah, a full 70% of African Americans in CA hate us.
Talk about showing their true colors when it comes to civil rights. That 70% obviously cares about themselves only. DAMN us or so one of them just told me here on DU.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:11 PM
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11. Actually, whites and Asians voted against 8
YES NO
White (63%) 49% 51%
African-American (10%) 70% 30%
Latino (18%) 53% 47%
Asian (6%) 49% 51%
Other (3%) 51% 49%
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:10 PM
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10. Rove knew this;
that's why we got Gays as an issue in the '04 election. It pulled both Blacks and Evangelicals.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:11 PM
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12. It really doesn't surprise me.
There has been a real backlash in the black community, caused by problems associated with all the guys on the "Down Low".

That, coupled by the huge number of black males who are ineligible to vote, doomed Prop8.
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:46 PM
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16. Problem of course (DL black gay men and AIDS etc), that their own churches and culture instigated
It's all a bleeding cycle, building upon itself.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 08:06 PM
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18. Yep
And then LDS and Vatican took advantage of it.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:12 PM
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14. I hadn't thought about that, but now that you mention it I'm not surprised
based on some people I talk to at work. It's a shame.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:48 PM
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17. One guy at work was leaning toward yes. If he voted for it, I'm done speaking with him...
...on any level except professional.

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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 06:18 PM
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19. I'm not in CA, but this thread caused me to remember a black co-worker
telling me about her husband's prejudice against gays. I found it appalling.
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