Anyone interested in prurient idle speculation? What say you,

[Hoping4Change]

was Haggard top or bottom?

[hippiechick]

1. ewww, the imagery ...

... the ooogly man, nekkid, in any position? :puke:

So much for dinner tonight! :puke:

[Hoping4Change]

2. I think Evangicals should know the position of their Pastor .

[hippiechick]

7. No you didn't!!! ROFL!

Haggard strikes me as the kind of man who'd gladly shoulder any burden and relieve a member of his flock of their heavy load or be a recepticle of their spiritual aggression, in order to serve ...

:rofl:

[BOSSHOG]

3. I heard a recorded radio interview

with the prostitute. He said both were both per the customers wishes. With haggards credentials no doubt he was a top bottom.

[CottonBear]

4. As always, BOSS, you provide us with the latest and most up-to-date information!

;)

:hi: Hiya! How are you this week? I am ready to kick some GOP ass tomorrow! :kick:

[Hoping4Change]

8. Well he sounds like an accommodating young man who believes

the customer is always right.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

5. No, I'm not.

I'm sickened by this thread in fact.

[LostinVA]

9. Me too -- it's not funny, gang

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

11. Yeah, seriously. I just love straight people cracking gay jokes in the GLBT board.

Nothing like a good faggot joke.

[LostinVA]

13. Yeah, we queers are too sensitive anyway

After all, they are just joking about HYPOCRISY. It's all too good to be kept in GD, huh?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

14. Nothing says hypocrisy like a good fag joke. Especially when it's taken straight to the fags.

More queers read it here. We can't miss it.

[LostinVA]

17. Look at Reply #5

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

19. Okay. I'm looking at my message. Now what do I do?

[LostinVA]

20. I meant 15.... sorry

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

23. Yeah, that was quite enlightening.

I had absolutely no clue how sex worked until I was educated.

These people should be ASHAMED of themselves.

[LostinVA]

27. And instead, the OP just keeps on mocking us

Oh, how fucking cute they are....

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

31. And of course it takes longer to get shit deleted in the smaller forums.

They can play longer.

[Jamastiene]

154. It's like one big Homophobe Parade, isn't it?

So, in our faces and crass.

[Name removed]

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[LostinVA]

16. Give me a frigging break -- you know what's sickening

And, this post of yours cements it. I'm sick of it.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

18. Yeah, I know how sex works. Please read post #12.

This is no different than cracking n*gger jokes in the African American board.

[Bluebear]

42. We know how sex works, and it CAN happen without "giving"

and "receiving". Are you straight by chance?

[LostinVA]

89. Of course they are -- gays don't talk like this

Unless they are totally self loathing.

[Left Is Write]

137. Can you tell me what difference it makes?

Why are interested in knowing the specific positions in which other people have sex?

[Jamastiene]

159. So, missionary man, which are you, top or bottom?

Considering the fact that you talk about sex as being for only one person at the time :wtf:, maybe you should share your own first.

[Hardrada]

6. They should have an Idle Speculation board on DU

and most of us would be there! With a prurient subsection where we would be also! Too bad we've run out of time for yet one more repug sex scandal before the General Erections tomorrow.

[tomreedtoon]

10. He was a bad consumer.

He paid for drugs and a male prostitute, but according to at least one of his statements he didn't use them. That is as stupid as my ex-girlfriend paying for an expensive computer and not learning how to run it. When I left her, it became a dust collector.

"What is that, Daddy?"

"Some drugs, sweetheart."

"What do you use them for?"

"Nothing. I just let them stay on the shelf and I look at them and resist the temptation to use them. Now excuse me, sweetie, I have to go out."

"What for?"

"I have to go out to buy more drugs that I won't be using."

[LostinVA]

12. So, would the straight DUers on this thread

Go into the African American forum and tell Jesse Jackson jokes? Yeah, I thought not. There's no difference. Sickening.

[Name removed]

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[Sapphocrat]

24. Don't play dumb. n/t

[LostinVA]

25. Knock it off -- you know what you're doing

And, you've been reported.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

26. So do you go to gay bars to pick on gays?

Because, this is the internet version of doing that.

[LostinVA]

28. Bingo -- that is exactly what it is

Gay bashing in our home.

[Bluebear]

43. No, this kind is definitely the drive-by type. nt

[Sapphocrat]

46. I think you're right.

I guess some people think it's fun to poke sticks at the animals in the cages and run before the zookeeper shows up.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

47. You're right. The kind that would never do it up close, lest they get their ass kicked by a fag. nt

[Jamastiene]

166. You know, "assuming the position" is something cops tell

the bad guys to do when they arrest them. This thread is sickening on so many levels, I don't see how you DON'T see it.

[Midlodemocrat]

54. .

:applause:

From a straight, married mom of three who would NEVER do that or make a joke like the OP.

[ThomCat]

125. Very sickening.

And why is this thread even still here? :shrug:

[Sapphocrat]

21. Would you all kindly read something before making one more crack?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=43069&mesg_id=43271

There are straights who will always make nasty remarks about LGBTs. There are men who will always make crude jokes about women. There are white people who will always think Stepin Fetchit and minstrel shows are brilliant entertainment.

There's nothing anyone can do about that. But can't these "jokers" at least keep their bigotry confined to places where it will be appreciated? There's been much talk about men who wouldn't dare degrade women in the presence of a woman; they keep their filth confined to the locker room.

Is that too much to ask? That if a person wants to make gerbil jokes, he at least have the decency not to do it in front of me?

Is that too much too ask?

It's bad enough to be bombarded with this crap day after day in GD -- but straights coming into GLBT to do it is just lousy. Just. Plain. Lousy.

[Hoping4Change]

29. Given that I am the OP, how do you presume to know my

orientation? I put this post here because I assumed open-mindedness and a sense of irreverence. Never in a zillion years did I think that this question, in this forum, would be met with this hostility. I am totally stunned by responses such as yours.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

32. Playing stupid isn't flattering to you.

[Hoping4Change]

48. Your responses are beyond comprehension. Would you take

offense if I asked whether Laura or George was the dominant partner?

[Sapphocrat]

49. I would ask...

...why you care whether Laura or George were the dominant partner -- and then I would ask you what that has to do with political discussion.

And then, if such a sex thread weren't locked altogether, I would expect to see it moved to the Lounge.

[LostinVA]

33. "Openmindedness"? About what? Haggard's preference

for being a top or a bottom? Stunned?

Oh boy.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

35. A quick search reveals you have *NEVER* posted in the GLBT forum before.

Quite the introduction you gave, huh?

[Sapphocrat]

36. I would be totally stunned if you were gay.

Are you completely unaware of the hammering we LGBTs have gotten (literally) across the board on DU since 1) the NJ decision ("Gays will lose us the election!") and 2) the Haggard revelation (try some "Ted Faggard" jokes on for size)?

And you feign shock that we refuse to tolerate more of the same -- especially IN HERE?

This has nothing to do with "openmindedness" or the lack of it. It has to do with getting kicked in the slats, repeatedly.

No, wait, I take that back: Making constant digs in GD is like kicking us in the slats. Doing it in GLBT is like subjecting an ant to a slow death under a magnifying glass in the sun.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

37. Oh the OP is quite aware of the hammering gays have gotten in GD for the Haggard revelation.

I did a search in GD. They just took their jokes out of GD and straight to the queers.

[Sapphocrat]

38. I really need to learn...

...to stop giving people the benefit of the doubt.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

41. I've stopped a long time ago. At least, you don't really get let down this way.

[ThomCat]

53. I'm totally stunned that you could post this OP

and not expect a firestorm. :grr:

It was clear and obvious flamebait, inviting homophobic comments and speculation.

[Hoping4Change]

72. Would you accuse me of flamebait if I questioned whether

Laura or George was the dominent sexual partner? The only thing I can be accused of is placing gay sex on par with heterosexual sex. No matter what orientation one embraces everyone plays particular roles. Heterosexuals, unless they are into S & M, don't give much thought about who plays what role because its assumed that males will play the dominant role; however in the nitty gritty of intimacy many straight males opt for a submissive role despite their public persona.

I absolutely had no desire to post flamebait. And drag me over hot coals but I think that people who think my OP is disgusting display only a tenuous acceptance of human sexuality. IMHO its as if gay sex is okay as long as you don't think about the details.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

73. How many times are you going to pull out your George & Laura argument?

*yawn*

BTW, I think it's really funny that you're suggesting that *I* have only a tenuous acceptance of human sexuality, because I'm sickened by your OP.

:rofl:

Now that's a joke!

[ThomCat]

78. I think you are fixated on the gay sex.

Thank you for your brief primer on gay sex. I was so clueless before you enlightened me. :eyes:

I think you so focused on the sex that no other part of the story matters to you. When people who seem to be straight are fixated on gay sex it's usually for no good reason.

[Sapphocrat]

79. Enough with George and Laura.

Heterosexuals, unless they are into S & M, don't give much thought about who plays what role because its assumed that males will play the dominant role; however in the nitty gritty of intimacy many straight males opt for a submissive role despite their public persona.

Oh, so it's naturally assumed that gay people must play either a dominant or passive role, because there's no obvious Tab-A-fits-into-slot-B arrangement? Now that attitude is a "tenuous acceptance of human sexuality" -- and a tenuous understanding of it as well.

I absolutely had no desire to post flamebait.

There's a simple solution to that: Instead of getting pissed off at us for telling you why your OP is offensive, try listening, taking responsibility for your own actions, and accepting the consequences of those actions.

And then stop posting this crap. Especially in GLBT.

[LostinVA]

95. You were quite aware you were posting flamebait -- and came to OUR HOUSE

to piss on us.

You're on the wrong board.

[foreigncorrespondent]

80. No...

...what you wanted to achieve was to get the pesky DU queers to fire up again. What are you and your mates hoping to achieve here? That we all run like a bunch of "sissies" and hide? If so, then you best think back to Stonewall. The latest onslaught of homophobia does nothing but make DU look idiotic, the people posting it brainless, and us queers stronger.

[ThomCat]

96. Very true.

Some people are outing themselves as blatant homophobes, and others are outing themselves as just clueless and ignorant, but either way people are outing themseves.

It's nice to see who's who.

[LostinVA]

30. To quote our own Buffy TVS

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116. It has long been the practice to accuse people of being gay


<snip>

Every time a DUer uses homosexuality as a joke or a weapon they are stating that they think gay is bad. Every time they respond to a "gay Republican" thread with cracks about hamsters and kneepads, they are stating that they think gay is bad. We are not a joke. We are not something to use as an insult. We are human beings. People need to think of that next time they're ready to taint somebody's reputation by insinuating that the person is gay.

If anybody doesn't get that I'm not able to help them."

[LostinVA]

34. This is the ONLY post you've made in this forum in at least a year

Give me a FUCKING BREAK.

[ScreamingMeemie]

39. When I come to the GLBT forum...

It is to lend support, ask a REAL question or comment on a story. It is never to crack a sick joke and expect laughter. This is inappropriate and mean spirited. It is also why we, straight DUers, are often viewed as fake and untrustworthy. It is also why many real issues, dealing with equal rights, will never be addressed with the sincerity and integrity they deserve. One man's hypocritical indiscretions do not make an entire community fair game for jokes. I am sorry fellow DUers. :(

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

40. Thank you.

:hug:

[Sapphocrat]

44. Thank you, MrsGrumpy.

There's no doubt in my mind you are a true blue ally.

[Bluebear]

45. No need for you to apologize.

You can't represent the whole straight community and we are (learning) who our true friends are here :)

[ThomCat]

51. MrsGrumpy, I love you!

:loveya:

[LostinVA]

97. Do not EVEN DARE to apologize, MrsG! Take it back!

We love you! We know you're pure of heart and a good egg... you're an honorary lesbian, remember?

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[ThomCat]

100. Hell, I'm nominate her to be an honorary Gay Man!

I think we get free bar tabs instead of toasters. :7

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

101. Make sure you give her a link, so she knows what us lesbians do.

I heard from somebody that straight people don't know what being gay entails.

[LostinVA]

114. She could even show the link to MrG -- he might learn something

Since us queers do weird stuff that needs special websites to educate straight people....

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

120. Oh she totally should, then she should buy him this.

[LostinVA]

128. I've read that book -- I know better stuff

[Sapphocrat]

150. I thought...

...it was that gay people didn't know what being gay entails.

Oh no, the fundies are right! I'm gay because I'm confused! :cry:

Or am I confused because I'm gay...?

[Deja Q]

138. True, but I have observed how one person's actions

affect their entire community.

And I've seen such actions on both sides.

I have contented myself to observe. For there is no such thing as 'community'.

[LostinVA]

146. Oh whatever -- typical

There is a community, and I haven't seen any of this shit on the big forums.

I am in no mood for this crap on this thread.

[donco6]

50. Bottom, because . . .

he was EXTRA SPECIAL GROSS dontcha know?

:sarcasm:

[LostinVA]

98. And acted like a sissy woman....

THAT'S also what the OP is saying.

[donco6]

107. Exactly.

Ugh.

Must we see these damn posts every other day? It's bad enough when it's just a comment in the midst of a GD thread, but right here in our own forum???

[LostinVA]

116. That's the worst -- they came here -- for the first time ever -- to do this

Because we would be open-minded enough to let them and their fucking henchtools yuk it up.

They need to remember Stonewall.

[Midlodemocrat]

52. That has got to be one of the most disgusting OPs I have ever read here.

Who the fuck do you think you are coming into this safe haven and making jokes?

This forum is a safe place for GLBT DUers to gather to discuss the issues that confront them daily as well as a place for straight DUers such as myself to lend support.

I suppose you think racist jokes are funny? Or sexist jokes? Are you sure you're in the right place.

:eyes:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

55. I just want to say...

Thank you and you ROCK!

:hug:

[Sapphocrat]

56. I'll second that!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[LostinVA]

99. THIRD!

[swimboy]

58. Thanks, Midlo.

:hug:

[Hoping4Change]

59. Would you be equally disgusted if I wondered whether George or

Laura was the dominant partner?

[Midlodemocrat]

60. But you didn't. You seem to think that your 'prurient speculation'

is fucking funny and it isn't a fucking bit funny.

Some of my dearest friends on this board are gay. I'm not, but I would no more start a thread like you did than cut off a finger.

I'm tired of this bullshit here on DU that being gay is somehow 'bad'.

Do you think * is gay? oooh, what if he is. That would be SOOOO bad.

Do you think Cheny is gay? ooooh, what if he is. That would be SOOOO bad.


It sucks donkey balls and I'm sick to fucking death of it. Being gay is a biological occurence just like my green eyes and early graying.

[ScreamingMeemie]

64. Would your intent be "equally" as disingenuous?

I wonder...

Taking stereotypical language and posting it in the form of a joke in a forum designated for the concerns of the human beings you have aimed your joke at is disgusting, sick and beyond reprehensible. Would you tell a n-word joke to Jesse Jackson? An amputee joke to Tammy Duckworth? Do you think they would laugh? There's your answer.

[Name removed]

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[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

84. Oh you are just *TOO* funny.

Guess what, hun? Everyone on this thread is pretty aware of gay sex.

[Sapphocrat]

85. !!!

:spray:

[Bluebear]

91. Shall I point you to a "straight web site" to see how "you" have sex?

After all, it's on the web, it must represent you! There's a ton of offensive sites about straight sex, would they be "simply a matter of fact"?

Look, if you have questions about gay sex, why not ask us here rather than trolling for internet sites. Example: did you know not every gay man has anal sex? If you realized that you wouldn't ridiculously insist that to "have sex there must be a giver and a receiver".

[Name removed]

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[ThomCat]

94. Do Not Condescend To MrsG!

She knows more when she's asleep than you do awake. :grr:

Have you ever heard of the First Rule of Holes? When you find yourself in one, stop digging!

[donco6]

110. You are NOT gonna quote Savage Love.

And imply that's what gay sex is all about. You really aren't. Are you?

[LostinVA]

117. Now pissing all over Dan Savage -- Jeebus

The Tool-o-meter just blew up.

[Hoping4Change]

130. I am saying that the terms top and bottom are part of a gay

vernacular and in no way are derogatory terms.

[Midlodemocrat]

140. Holy Shit! I GET IT NOW!!!

The OP is a fucking alien. More than likely an offshoot of some nukular testing gone wrong.

:eyes:


Dude, do yourself a favor and leave this forum.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

145. You. Are. Fucking. Fabulous.

:rofl:

:loveya:

[LoZoccolo]

161. HAI2U!!11 IBTL!!!!

[Sapphocrat]

70. Did you not read my response to you earlier?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=43372&mesg_id=43425

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

71. Yeah, but he had to try to get some straight people to agree with him.

Duh.

[Sapphocrat]

75. OK, I'll wait.

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Waiting.
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Still waiting.
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Excuse me while I put my waiting time to productive use. I think I'll go clean out my closets, trade stocks, and have a few grandchildren, maybe negotiate peace in the Middle East...

[LostinVA]

88. I'm gay -- I think I know more about gay sex than you

Sickening.

I wish ThomCat was here... you think WE'VE been "attacking" you?

[LostinVA]

86. I love you so much -- thank you

THis has angered and upset em so much.... especially since it's been HOURS and it hasn't been locked, or any of these filthy posts deleted.....

Thank you. Your and Mrs. G's posts are the only reason while I'm still here.

Bless you.

[ThomCat]

113. Nice.

Thank you for saying that. :)

[swimboy]

57. !

Ahem!!!

This is really pretty rotten behavior. Am I being PC? PC has been around for a long time. It used to be called good manners.

[ThomCat]

165. It's a damned shame that the author of the OP isn't

paying attention to what you wrote. :(

[Catherine Vincent]

61. Are you gay?

If you're not, that's pretty bold to ask that here. I pity you. I am surprised this hasn't been locked yet. :shrug:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

63. The OP is straight and this is their first post in the GLBT forum.

It's a real winner, isn't it?

[LeftCoast]

66. To paraphrase another thread, it's nice to see we're taking PC too far, eh?

Sometimes it's hard to believe we are actually living in the 21st century...

[LostinVA]

103. We're all just too sensitive on this thread -- it's just a joke

[swimmernsecretsea]

69. Yes! Where is the moderator?! nt

[closeupready]

62. These responses make perfect sense considering

how hostile the rest of DU has been to gays and lesbians recently. Gay dems are on pins and needles.

At the same time, if the threadstarter had said that he missed all of that because he wasn't checking DU until recently, I would be able to see, in one sense, the locker room type humor he intended.

If in doubt, don't.

[Catherine Vincent]

65. For one thing it's a sex thread.

They get locked real fast in the lounge.

[LostinVA]

81. The OP never posted in here until this

Because we're more "open minded" about sex, appartaenly...

[Duncan Grant]

67. What's the difference?

Seriously, what's the difference between top and bottom?

Are tops somehow less contemptible than bottoms?

Are bottoms more feminine and tops more masculine?

Or is there an "ick factor" between the two that you'd like us all be 'tee-hee'ing about?

Fer cryin' out loud... :eyes:

[swimmernsecretsea]

68. Thank you!

Sheesh.

[LostinVA]

105. Bottoms are "the women," i guess, and are submissive, like women

[ThomCat]

74. I'm trying hard to figure out what possible non-homophobic

intent you might have had for posting this.

I'm coming up with nothing. Care to jump in here with a clue?

Are we all supposed to be icked out by imaging just how gay he is? OMG, gay sex is so gross, just imagine! :eyes:

Can we play this game imaging all the icky things straight people do in bed? Or are only gay people gross enough to speculate about?

[Hoping4Change]

102. Where in the OP is there any suggestion that gay sex is gross?

As stated before that I am amazed by this response. I work in Interior Design, my boss and best friend for 15 years is by his own description a BQ (big queen). Our friends are artists, mostly gay. Since this story broke we have regaled ourselves with speculation about Haggard, one friend a transsexual disowned by his father a Seventh Day Adventist minister has had us all in stitches. I mistakingly believed that this thread would be received in the same spirit. I thought it would be fun. I have no guilty conscience.

Viva la sex. Vive le gay sex. Vive la top. Vive la bottom. Vive la versatile.

[ThomCat]

104. "Viva la sex. Vive le gay sex. Vive la top. Vive la bottom. Vive la versatile."

Then what possible reason could you have for posting this flamebait?

What difference would it make whether he's a top or bottom? Speculating is just an invitation for fag jokes, and we've had way too much homophobia around here recently.
:grr:

Geez, a lot of people here at trying to throw you a clue. Catch one!

[Hoping4Change]

119. It never occured to me it was flamebait. This is something out

of a Woody Allen movie. I posted in this Forum because I thought it would be well received. I kid you not. I thought if I had posted this in GD it'd be misunderstood. The only thing I thought it would invite is jokes about religious hypocrites. If I had a mind to invite "fag jokes" why would I come to this Forum, I think I would have posted in GD or the Lounge.

[LostinVA]

106. The old "gay friend" routine

Even if true, it doesn't mean you have carte blanche to insult the rest of us.

SAnd what the FUCK does a straight woman know about gay sex? Especially this top/bottom stereotype garbage.... Jesus CHRIST.

You never post in here, ever, until you pst this shit.

You've never apologized ONCE, you just keep on and one and on.... posting l;inks to sex sites, etc.

Learn some lessons from MrsG and Midlo. THEY should be your role models.

Take your gay bashing elsewhere.

[donco6]

111. Put down the "Birdcage" CD and back away from the TV.

WTF? You just try calling me a "Big Queen" pal.

[Hoping4Change]

122. No I am not calling you a big queen. I stated that my friend

refers to himself as a BQ. I put that in to indicate his sense of humour, one that is obviously not shared.

[Bluebear]

115. Don't try calling me a Big Queen.

If you know what's good fer ya.

[LostinVA]

118. Methinks someone has been watching too much Nathan Lane...

[Bluebear]

121. They know one one-dimensional gay/lesbian & they're big experts. nt

[LostinVA]

129. "The Birdcage" has alot to answer for, imo

[Bluebear]

132. Totally agree. nt

[Midlodemocrat]

143. There's a big difference between talking IRL to people you know

and posting an offensive 'joke' like that as your first post in this forum.

Use your head. Stop defending yourself. You fucked up.

[LeftyMom]

76. OMG! Maybe he takes it in the ass! Or he sucks dick! Icky! Grow. The. Fuck. Up. Really.

Who cares?!?!

How often do you see people wondering about straight people do when they close the door? Almost never, because it's nobody's fucking business. Well guess what? It's nobody's business what GLBT people do in privacy, either.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

77. And it'd be just like so much more gross if he was a bottom, right?

:sarcasm:

Thanks, LeftyMom. You're awesome.

:yourock:

[Bluebear]

83. Love you, LM. Thank you.

[Sapphocrat]

87. Thank you, LeftyMom.

:thumbsup: :):):)

[Catherine Vincent]

90. Just so you'll know, I'm on your side but...

"How often do you see people wondering about straight people do when they close the door?"

Are you serious? How do you think Porn became big business (so I've heard). :)

[LeftyMom]

93. I think making porn is kinda leaving the door open.

No real expectation of sexual privacy when anybody can watch you go at it (with multiple camera angles!) for $19.95. ;)

[LostinVA]

108. Thank you, Leftymom

Kisses and hugs.

[ThomCat]

109. :)

:applause:

[donco6]

112. LOL! Thanks. eom

[flvegan]

123. Why? You hoping to get your mental imagery correct?

Not so funny now, is it?

Gay bashing and homophobia, even making light of one's sexual preference in such a way simply fucking reeks.

Junior high, btw, is over.

[ThomCat]

127. "Junior high, btw, is over."

:rofl:

Oh my! :hug:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

131. Thank you. Hopefully the OP will get out of junior high school soon.

:yourock:

:hug:

[LostinVA]

124. Hey, OP -- I did a search of your posts

Lots of subtle and not-so-subtle digs at gays... even some I'd call HOMOPHOBIC. Still wanna try to say you're just hear on a mission as pure as the driven snow?

[Hoping4Change]

126. I'm all ears. Please enlighten me. What have I said that is

anyway homophobic?

[Bluebear]

134. Your "Haggard wanted a DEEP DEEP PENETRATING MASSAGE"

immediately comes to mind as something in very poor taste.

[Hoping4Change]

139. Well if you are going to cite that as an example you should

provide a link to the thread to put the remark into context?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2576668

[flvegan]

141. Hard to plead context with an evilgrin smilie in that post, yes?

[Hoping4Change]

147. The entire thread was humourous.

I'm really perplexed. Do you also think my humourous suggestion that he wanted a deep deep penetrating indicates homophobia?

[flvegan]

171. Like I said...

your "context" defense is pretty weak, considering.

[terrya]

133. I alerted on this.

I really don't see anything even remotely funny about this.

[LostinVA]

136. We've been alerting on it for literally hours

Nothing. Nil.

[bigwillq]

135. Who cares.

Who cares.Who cares. Who cares.
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Go find something better to speculate about.

There is an election coming up.

:eyes:

:mad:

[ThomCat]

144. Haven't you heard?

We're going to loose the election because we spend too much time talking about equal rights. We're supposed to shut up and wait for a more convenient time after the election.

The solution, obviously, is to let straight people take the lead and talk about gay sex! :eyes:

[bigwillq]

148. This thread is a fucking joke.

:mad:

[jonnyblitz]

162. self-delete.. I misread you. post

this thread is too long and i got confused and annoyed. I apologize to you after reading your post responding to the message in this box that i deleted. please forgive me. :P

[bigwillq]

164. You're not understanding

the 'who cares' that I posted. I guess I needed to be more specific.

I meant 'who cares' like who cares, why is it so important that we're wasting our time speculating the position of two gay men.

Why don't we speculate about the position of two straight people? :shrug:

Why is there a need in our society to care about what goes on in gay people's bedrooms? :shrug:

people need to grow up and get over themselves
(not you) people in general like the OP.

[jonnyblitz]

167. ooops...my bad.

sorry. long day, long thread...

[bigwillq]

168. No prob!

:hug:

:loveya:

[LostinVA]

173. Uh-oh.... gay sex!

[Vorta]

142. Bottom. Aren't they all?

Jones was asked if they practiced safer sex, to which he replied yes. The next question was something like, "So (Haggard) wore a condom?" , to which Jones replied, "No, um I did (like duh).".

[ThomCat]

149. And here's the gasoline.

The fire wasn't burning hot enough yet. :eyes:

[LostinVA]

153. The Liberty Baptist kids have a curfew -- he's squeezing in a few posts

[Vorta]

155. Well, seriously. Was there any doubt in your mind?

Have you ever heard of a 49 year old being paid to bottom? A really hot college guy maybe, but a daddy like that makes his coin on top. What he does when he is off duty may well be another matter.

[bigwillq]

157. You're just adding to this filth.

Hope you're happy.

:eyes:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

163. Nearly 100% of his posts have been divisive GLBT stuff.

It's okay though because he's "gay." Oh and his sister's a lesbian.

[Vorta]

175. You know what? Of all the nasty things that have been said to me on this board.....

...... the nastiest is the suggestion that I am not gay. Not even the Freepers did that when I was trying to contest the otherwise awful things they say over there. SO congratulations, you have said something nastier to me than any Freeper ever has.

You go on about how mean people are, and you treat me like that. How cool you are.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

180. Oh, no. You called me mean. I'll add that to my list of things I've been called on DU.

Now I'm a mean male Freeper Anarchist Rush Limbugh listenin' John Wayne wannabe cowboy.

Oh and there are many people on this board that would consider me one of the good ones here.

[Vorta]

170. I didn't see any filth in the original post.

All I saw was someone having a little fun with Haggard's scandal. It doesn't bother me.

[bigwillq]

172. It should bother you.

Are we just sex objects? :shrug:

:mad:

[Vorta]

177. That's not your call. eom

[LostinVA]

152. Ugh -- go away, please

[LeftCoast]

160. Ok, now it's really clear you're just trying to be offensive

And spare me the feigned innocence.

[Jamastiene]

151. Oh, I get it. It's a free for all sex thread where we can post anything

we damn well please, huh?

Okay, everyone grab your left one and make your right one jealous.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

156. Yeah...

:eyes:

[WindRavenX]

158. Please stop wasting the oxygen of decent people

:hi:

[crim son]

169. Shit. I'm going to risk life and limb here,

and guess that Hoping4Change did not mean to offend. The joke was tasteless, barely a joke, but in the straight world, the question is asked about straight sex and the meaning of the answer is just plain understood. Straight people, even those who prefer the bottom, really don't take offense, because it's a joke.

Here, given the sensitivities and rather alarming defensiveness of everybody who is blowing H4C to hell, the OP was a really, really bad idea. This straight joke does not transpose very well. But thirty people jumping on his/her ass is, to me, just as vile as the shitty joke. IMHO. And I hope you know I love my GLBT brothers and sisters. I really do. I'm just as confused as H4C. So call me ignorant, but don't call me an asshole homophobe, because that's crap. -Lisa

[LostinVA]

176. *sigh* Because it's you, I'm not posting what I would

If it was someone else.

I am disappointed, though.

[crim son]

181. I appreciate your restraint.

Because I am only speculating, from a straight perspective, and I could very well be wrong. I'm sorry for disappointing you; I really am.

[Left Is Write]

178. If H4C did not mean to offend, I would strongly question his/her use...

of the word "prurient."

Prurient, idle speculation? Inexplicable interest in the position preference of this particular person? Such speculation posted on the GLBT safe haven? I'm sorry, but that does not sound like an innocent gaffe.

[crim son]

183. You are right.

I'm not saying it isn't tasteless. I'm just saying that as a straight person, I can believe that the OP was not intended to insult in any way. It did; I don't dispute that. I'm just fairly certain there was no intent.

[Jack1963]

179. It's pretty scary

I am with you, Lisa. I don't see that H4C meant to cause such a hateful stir.

The backlash has been more scary than the "bad idea" OP.

[William769]

174. Heres a better question

Do you like to get on all fours & take it up the rear? Isn't that how dog's do it?

[mondo joe]

182. For what it's worth, I'm not offended or disgusted and I'm gay.

If gays are going to lose all sense of humor, however, I might have to consider reparation therapy.

[jmm]

184. Locked

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