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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:19 AM
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Holy war against pride parade (Jerusalem)
From Ynet News (liberal Israeli paper),7340,L-3321178,

Haredim promise violence if parade takes place, tell J'lem police chief 'will not give up, dialogue or negotiate'

Haredim keep threatening to strike the gay parade scheduled to take place in Jerusalem in two weeks. Most recently, Jerusalem Police Chief Maj. Gen. Ilan Franko met Sunday with Haredi leader Yitzhak Tuvia Weiss.

Franko asked to learn about the stance of Haredi rabbis who declared their intent of a 'Million Man Protest' against the parade. Police did not release details of the meeting.

A source close to the rabbi said that Weiss told Franko that he cannot promise the police chief that there won't be Haredi violence at the march.

"The rabbi declared there'd be a war over this, that we couldn't stay silent about it. We cannot give up or compromise about this," the source said.

--- SNIP ---

"The last few days have proven that we're not just fighting for the rights of the gay community in Jerusalem, but rather for anyone who believes in liberty and human rights. We call on the community at large to join us in our struggle."

Perhaps no worse than USA Christian fundies, but then none of our cities are "holy" cities.

At least the police and a good deal of the populace are on our side, but they may be overwhelmed.

NOTE: These Haredim are not Hassidim such as you see organizing in New York City. They are extreme "regular" Orthodox.

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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 01:45 PM
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1. Follow up: Good editorial in same paper
Come out, religious homosexuals

Ultra-Orthodox gays should display courage, march in Jerusalem pride parade,7340,L-3321851,

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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-31-06 07:33 PM
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2. It's going to be a long time before I think that's safe.
That's a good way to get a very much shortened life span.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:59 AM
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3. I doubt there are too many ultra-Orthodox gays
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 03:54 AM
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4. ***UPDATE***
Israel Refuses To Ban Gay Pride Parade

By MATTI FRIEDMAN, Associated Press
November 06, 2006

JERUSALEM - Israel's attorney general refused to ban a gay pride parade in Jerusalem despite threats of violence from ultra-Orthodox Jews, instructing police and gay activists to try to work out a compromise, the police commander said Sunday.

A Justice Ministry statement said Attorney General Meni Mazuz ordered police to meet with gay activists "to work out a reasonable alternative proposal" for the march, set for Friday on a route through the middle of the city. The meeting is to take place Monday, gay activists said, and a compromise was likely.

Ultra-Orthodox Jews have rioted in Jerusalem nearly every night over the past week, burning garbage cans, blocking roads and assaulting police officers in an attempt to get the authorities to call off the march, approved months ago by the Supreme Court. Many religious Jews, Muslims and Christians see homosexuality as a sin and the march as an affront to the sanctity of the holy city.

Police said Sunday that the danger of violence was too great to allow the march to proceed, but left the final decision to Mazuz. "We understand that the potential danger to life and bloodshed is greater than that to free speech," said police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld.

Ella Canetti, one of the organizers of the gay pride march, said they would meet police on Monday and were willing to be flexible. "We are prepared to alter the route of our march to meet police concerns," she told The Associated Press. "According to what we understand, a modest gay pride march will take place in Jerusalem."

After meeting Mazuz, Jerusalem police commander Ilan Franco said, "It may be that there will be a march and a closing event at place which both sides decide is reasonable and minimizes potential damage and danger."

But it was unclear whether such a compromise would satisfy the ultra-Orthodox Jewish opponents.
At last year's march, an ultra-Orthodox man stabbed and wounded three participants.

There was some dissent Sunday among gay activists. Saar Nathaniel, a gay member of Jerusalem's City Council and one of the march's planners, suggested Sunday that gay activists cancel the march in return for ultra-Orthodox members of parliament supporting gay rights legislation.

A gay columnist in the liberal Haaretz daily called on organizers to show sensitivity for Jerusalem's special status as a city holy to three faiths and move the march to the more permissive Tel Aviv.

Jerusalem police said six policemen have been hurt in the clashes over the past week and 60 rioters have been arrested. Over the weekend, the disturbances spread outside Jerusalem to the ultra-Orthodox city of Bnei Brak, near Tel Aviv, where rioters blocked one of Israel's main highways with burning tires.

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