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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:11 PM
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I think people who use the phrase, "homosexual lifestyle," should be asked to define that term.
"Homosexual lifestyle" is a strange phrase which should be clearly defined, with concrete examples, if it is to used in an argument. I hold this opinion for two main reasons: clearly defining terms increases the quality of most debates, and I personally suspect the people who use this term are imagining situations not actually experienced by most members of the GLBT community.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:16 PM
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1. K&R for OWNING your part of the "discourse". nt
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:17 PM
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2. Second that.
:hi:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:18 PM
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3. Recommend!!! n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:21 PM
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4. What's always implied by that term is that gays are more promiscuous and perverted
That they are sex crazed maniacs with no self-control, in contrast to the allegedly chase and monogamous heterosexuals.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:31 PM
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5. Nah. They just can't stand the thought that someone, somewhere is having fun.
You have to wonder, what filthy depths their minds wander to when imagining "Teh Gay" lifestyle. Second, how there are so many self-proclaimed experts on said lifestyle in the (R) party.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:39 PM
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16. Reminds me of the Sunday "Doonesbury" cartoon that appeared
right before "Marvelous" Mark Slackmeyer came out of the closet. In the strip, Mark was confronting a caller who insisted that gay people CHOSE to be gay. Mark(speaking with a surprising level of intensity on the issue, which was almost certainly meant as foreshadowing)listed all the miserable things that happen to gay people, then asked the caller "why would anyone choose THAT?"

After a couple of seconds of dead air...the caller replied "the food...I hear the food's better".

IN response to this, Mark created a new topic in the conversation, asking for callers to answer the question "Gay cuisine...is it tops?"
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 03:34 PM
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6. Not to sound biased but it's clear to me. Having had many
homosexual neighbors over the year not only do I know what it means understand some resentment.

The homosexual lifestyle. A beautifully landscaped yard, always kept up. The lawn is never overgrown or brown or overgrown. Hedges never look like they need trimming, weeds wouldn't think to grow there and whatever is blooming looks great.
If you go into their house, even if you stop over unexpectedly, well welcome to house beautiful. Stylish, uncluttered, awesome.

And it's not like you see them working all the time either, they make it seem effortless. Resentful? Sure. It isn't fair. It's as though god just likes them better.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 04:08 PM
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7. It's a bad attempt at framing the argument
They believe it's a choice who you are attracted to, so therefore it's a "lifestyle choice."

I point blank asked someone who talked about that "Say we lived in Iran, and it was illegal to be straight. Would you take the bullet or would you pair up with a guy?"
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:09 PM
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20. How did they respond? nt
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:01 PM
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21. In a surprising, but yet insulting way
"Sure, I'd do a guy...as long as I don't have to be the catcher, if you know what I mean..."
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 05:49 PM
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8. Oh yes, the homo lifestyle. Mine is just wild.
Single, work full time, 4 kids, just paying bills, mortgage, feeding my kids (and half their friends) and on the weekends, I am the neighborhood taxi. Occasionally, late on a Saturday night, I will lay in bed and watch a netflix instant play of a gay themed movie. Must the homo part of my lifestyle.
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:41 PM
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9. My young gay cousin doesn't like that expression.
Lifestyle implies fashion, a fleeting interest. He, on the other hand, wants just a life. Not for today, for ever.
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 07:45 PM
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10. Addendum:
He's not so young anymore. Kirk will be 40 next year...Good grief.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 11:10 PM
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11. Disagree. They ought to be told--
"We have LIVES, you sociopathic little shit! Now fuck off!"
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:31 AM
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12. It's just like the heterosexual lifestyle, but without the icky sex
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 12:31 AM by toddaa
Everything comes down to peepees and woowoos, when your brain functions at the same level as a three year old.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 02:13 AM
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13. I never understood that phrase.
I guess because it implies a choice between 'lifestyles.' Also I don't ever hear the phrase heterosexual lifestyle. I never understood the phrase and I don't use it. It's offensive.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:07 PM
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19. I think the phrase is designed to provoke biases. I think some people want us to use biased thinking
instead of critical thinking.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 09:28 AM
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14. "Being gay and not lying about it." n/t
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:36 AM
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15. Let's ask Valerie Jarrett what she meant
n/t
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 03:55 PM
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17. Absolutely....
I am willing to bet that those who bandy the "gay lifestyle" about have no real knowledge of what they are talking about. I think it's a great idea to challenge use of that term every time they want to bring it into a conversation.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:05 PM
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18. I think we should be suspicious of people who are unwilling to define their terms.
Vague buzzwords designed to provoke biases may be the heart of some people's arguments. Expecting people to define their terms should help to expose faulty arguments.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 03:32 PM
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22. Absolutely...
If they can make a comment using that term, then they can explain themselves. They have some crazed idea that all we do is have sex all day--that's when were not doing drugs (yes, I have met people who sincerely believe that nonsense. Sad but true. However from now on I will be demanding to know what they mean by the term "homosexual lifestyle". I'm sure many of the haters will make fools of themselves trying to make us look bad.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 05:11 PM
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23. I Also Make It a Habit...
to ask them how they will be affected by marriage equality. Never do get an answer to that one.
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mediator Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 07:16 PM
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24. Hell, I don't even know what "lifestyle" all by itself means...
do any 2 humans on the planet have the exact same ones??
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 09:11 PM
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25. Clearly they mean:
Getting Mexican takeout, coming home, walking the dogs, and then having one person eat and read the internet while the other loads up Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and learning how to play the game is clearly immoral.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:52 PM
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27. Sounds like my house! nt
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 10:25 AM
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26. Some of 'em (and we know which ones) use the word 'lifestyle'....
Edited on Wed Feb-16-11 10:26 AM by Iggo
....because style implies choice.

The rest of 'em are just idiots.
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costahawk1987 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:55 AM
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28. No shit!
The only thing different about my "lifestyle" now is that I live it naturally.
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alltherage Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 02:12 PM
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29. You might as well also say, "black lifestyle"
See how well that one goes over.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 09:56 AM
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30. I agree and would argue that the same should be done when "sexual preference" is used
I don't prefer being in relationships with women, it's just the what of who I am. Saying sexual "preference" makes it sound like I have a choice in the matter.
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:21 AM
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31. Both of these chafe my hide...
And i make it a point to call the speaker on it if i hear them used.

I'm too old to just shrug my shoulders and ignore it.
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