Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Here's Americablog's take on federal benefits Exec Order

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » GLBT Donate to DU
 
ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 08:20 PM
Original message
Here's Americablog's take on federal benefits Exec Order
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 08:29 PM by ruggerson
Obama not to address any of his eight promises tomorrow night in the Oval Office

This just in. The White House has just announced (I'm not kidding) that President Obama will do the following tomorrow evening:

In the evening, the President will deliver brief remarks and sign a Presidential Memorandum regarding federal benefits and non-discrimination in the Oval Office. This event is pooled press.

That pretty much means that he's going to give gay federal employees partner benefits.

And that's sweet.

And awfully convenient, considering the DNC is about to lose a lot of money since they're $1,000 and up a head big gay fundraiser is imploding.

And it's also awfully convenient that the event is being held at 545pm, just a tad too late for the evening news to pick it up. Gosh, how did that happen?

Unfortunately, federal benefits for gay federal employees is not even one of the eight campaign promises Obama made to our community (there are only seven now on the White House Web site - the DOMA promise went down the memory hole about two months ago).

Joe and I have written about this before. We had predicted that Obama would either give us the hate crimes bill or benefits for federal employees as a means of showing how much he's doing on his gay rights promises, without actually doing anything on any of the eight gay rights promises he made. (And guess what? After the DOMA brief controversy exploded, they suddenly announced plans to do hate crimes in the Senate this week. And now, poof, the bill is dead again until at least August. And remember folks, this is the easy one - it already passed the House and Senate, and survived a Senate filibuster, in the last Congress.)

Who is advising the president of the United States on gay issues? This is beyond belief. These people think we're living in 1993, where our number one issue is getting 2% of the gay population working for the federal government to get some of the benefits that straight employees get. Again, it's nice. And if I were kicking back in my Birkenstocks and joining a few friends to watch Melrose Place, I might think this was a huge deal. But it doesn't compare with Obama having promised to repeal DOMA, repeal DADT, and secure passage of ENDA. There is no progress whatsoever on that front, unless you call Obama continuing to discharge gay service members, and filing hideously anti-gay rehashes of George Bush's old homophobic legal briefs, "progress."

The country has moved beyond the 1990s. That is, everyone but the Obama administration. Gay marriage is exploding around the country. 70% of the country support repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell, even majorities of Republicans and churchgoers. And a majority of Americans oppose job discrimination against gays. This stuff just isn't controversial anywhere outside of the Obama administration and a Sarah Palin Fan Club meeting. Federal benefits would have been a huge thing had President Clinton done it. Today, after having been compared to incest and pedophiles by our own Democratic president, it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what this president needs to do to win back our trust. Not to mention, we have to beat the bejeesus out of you for five days to even get your attention, and this is all we get?

What is he going to do on DOMA, DADT and ENDA? Is the President going to apologize for comparing us to incest and pedophilia last week? Is he going to support us in the next DOMA lawsuit, whose brief is due on the 29th, or he is yet again going to support a bigoted law that he has called "abhorrent," even though he is fully in his power as president to oppose an existing law IF HE CARES ENOUGH TO DO SO.

When you figure that one out, get back to us. Until then, spare us the cute photo opps that give the president an opportunity to stand around a bunch of gay people and show how loved he is by the gays. when everyone is really pissed off at him. This isn't North Korea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 08:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. Ding, ding, ding! We got a winner!
The country has moved beyond the 1990s. That is, everyone but the Obama administration. Gay marriage is exploding around the country. 70% of the country support repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell, even majorities of Republicans and churchgoers. And a majority of Americans oppose job discrimination against gays. This stuff just isn't controversial anywhere outside of the Obama administration and a Sarah Palin Fan Club meeting. Federal benefits would have been a huge thing had President Clinton done it. Today, after having been compared to incest and pedophiles by our own Democratic president, it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what this president needs to do to win back our trust. Not to mention, we have to beat the bejeesus out of you for five days to even get your attention, and this is all we get?

What is he going to do on DOMA, DADT and ENDA? Is the President going to apologize for comparing us to incest and pedophilia last week? Is he going to support us in the next DOMA lawsuit, whose brief is due on the 29th, or he is yet again going to support a bigoted law that he has called "abhorrent," even though he is fully in his power as president to oppose an existing law IF HE CARES ENOUGH TO DO SO.

When you figure that one out, get back to us. Until then, spare us the cute photo opps that give the president an opportunity to stand around a bunch of gay people and show how loved he is by the gays. when everyone is really pissed off at him. This isn't North Korea.

http://www.americablog.com/2009/06/obama-not-to-address-any-of-his-eight.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:01 PM
Response to Original message
2. Some people just won't stop whining!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. I know -- wanting those pesky civil rights!
POUTRAGE AND PONIES!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Like you for example!
You bore one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. WTF are you complaining about, Mr. Has All His Rights?
No one's forcing you to die alone in a hospital.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinRed Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. I was just thinking about the proposed LGBTIQ group
I was thinking it wasn't really necessary since we have this forum. But after reading your post it hit me like a slap in the face. (Admittedly I haven't been on DU a lot lately so I haven't been exposed to post like yours). I now agree there is a need for another LGBT group that advocates for gay rights without being called whiners b/c we want civil rights now and no longer want to be told to wait our turn. We've been waiting way too long. This isn't 1999.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. I agree, this is the best example and reason to approve that group.
I was thinking the same exact thing when I read this post
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:02 PM
Response to Original message
3. We have a winner! This is nothing but a PR move.
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 09:02 PM by FLAprogressive
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:03 PM
Response to Original message
4. 2% of gay people
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Damn
I always miss the good sub-threads
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. so do I, and the deleted posts. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #9
18. Me too, and it's from my post!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. I do too!
Although I have been kinda stressed out lately, so maybe that's a good thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
10. It been a long time since I've seen John Aravosis
so righteously pissed. Too bad he's has to expend so much energy on a Democratic president who ran on expanding civil rights. I live in San Francisco in the Castro and I know a few Log Cabin Republicans who voted for Obama. They, also, are not amused.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Aravosis used to worship Obama as a deity,
He was as bad as any of our saddest cases here.

This marks a pretty dramatic switch for old John.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 10:45 PM
Response to Original message
14. this whole affair reminds me of the housewife
who just got beaten up, and now offending Hubby is at the door with flowers and candy
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Yeah, except . . .
. . . the flowers are dandelions picked from the overgrown lawn and the candy is half a Snickers bar he found in the gutter.

This is just insulting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. Bingo. The longer I think about this, the madder I get. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 06:29 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » GLBT Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC