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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:12 PM
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Rick Warren compares abortion to the Holocaust, attacks mainline churches and gay rights
Rick Warren Not Satisfied with Making Abortions 'Rare'

Attempting only to make abortions rare is not much different than saving some of the Jews during the Holocaust when all could be saved, according to megachurch pastor Rick Warren.

Of course I want to reduce the number of abortions, Warren told Beliefnet Editor-in-Chief Steven Waldman when asked if he was going to work with the Obama administration to achieve an abortion reduction agenda or if he thinks that the effort is a charade.

But to me it is kind of a charade in that people say We believe abortions should be safe and rare, he added.

Dont tell me it should be rare. Thats like saying on the Holocaust, Well, maybe we could save 20 percent of the Jewish people in Poland and Germany and get them out and we should be satisfied with that, Warren said. Im not satisfied with that. I want the Holocaust ended.

Social Gospel is 'Marxism in Christian Clothing,' Says Warren

Best-selling author, social activist and megachurch pastor Rick Warren described the social gospel supported by many of the mainline churches as Marxism in Christian clothing.

(W)e dont need to care about redemption, the cross, repentance. All we need to do is redeem the social structures of society and if we make those social structures better the world will become a better place, explained Warren as he described the beliefs behind those who support the "social gospel," in his interview with, which was posted Monday.

Really in many ways it was just Marxism in Christian clothing, he criticized. t was in vogue at that time that if we redeem society then man will automatically get better. It didnt deal with the heart.

Warren, recognized as one of the most socially active Christians in the world, did not hold back his criticism of those who call themselves Christians but seek to make the world a better place by focusing on the body issues of poverty, disease, social justice and racial justice and not the soul.

Ugandan Media: Rick Warren Denounces Gay Rights

Dr (Rick) Warren said that homosexuality is not a natural way of life and thus not a human right. "We shall not tolerate this aspect at all," Dr Warren said.

Warren was speaking in support of Ugandan Anglicans who intend to boycott the forthcoming Lambeth Conference, and this harsh rejection of tolerance for gays and lesbians may have serious consequences in a country where homosexuals face harrassment and and the threat of imprisonment.

Warren's comment is of a piece with his support for Martin Ssempa, the Ugandan evangelist who has been a keynote speaker at a Warren conference, and who has received US global AIDS prevention funds. As I wrote in August, Ssempa wants to ensure that homosexuality remains illegal and that gays and lesbians are identified in the public mind as sexual abusers. Ssempa calls for media censorship against opposing views and the dismissal of dissenting academics, and last summer he organised a rally with the theme "A Call for Action on Behalf of the Victims of Homosexuality", at which he railed against "molestation and sodomy."
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 11:29 PM
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1. This guy is just so wrong it boggles the rational mind.
The pick wasn't necessary, so many other choices. So many.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:39 AM
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2. If he were a German or a Pole, back in the day ....
...I have to wonder how many Jews he would actually have saved.
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