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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:23 PM
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Why does the Pope deserve any respect.
A bunch of ultra conservative Cardinals appoint a man who is has a very flawed past and a skewed view of the world, saying some frankly reprehensible things, to be Pope. And unlike any head of state, the rest of the Political World deems him above reproach. If the Catholics want to consider him without fault, that is their concern. (Though I don't mind voicing my opinion to them.)
But this man does not, in my eyes, deserve the respect he is given.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:26 PM
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1. He Does Not, Sir
This one, put bluntly, deserves only contempt and disgust.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:26 PM
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2. He deserves every bit as much respect
as any other corporate CEO.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:27 PM
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3. Bingo...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:57 PM
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8. Well said, just another CEO. n/t
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:30 PM
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4. Do you mean the man or the office? I assume you mean the man, in this case,
who happens to hold the office.

In which case, I see no reason to respect him. He's done little to deserve it, that's for sure, other than I suppose we can give him kudos for studying hard in school and knowing his Latin.

And I imagine he loved his mother.

Probably doesn't chew with his mouth open.

But, man, that's the only kind of stuff I can come up with.

As to the office itself - having a hard time coming up with any legitimate reasons to respect that, either. It's an unbiblical office (not anti-Biblical, necessary, but certainly not in any mandated or even hinted at in the Bible, and so kind of silly - but then, I've always been Protestant, so I'm biased, I suppose).

I suppose the office needs to be respected in some way since it is the official voice of Catholicism, and with a shitload of Catholics in the world it behooves us to respect what the idiot is saying, in the sense of "we should at least listen to it and know what he says", not in the sense of "and therefore also agree with it".

But, holy shit, the world pays WAY too much respect in the sense that the Vatican is a country (what the fuck?!), the Pope is considered a head of state (What the fuck?!?!?!), and the fuckers not only speak to their own followers but have certain political clout that forces non-Catholics, at some level, to conform to the Pope's bullshittery.

The rest of the political apparatus of the world should tell the Pope and the Vatican to fuck off, and leave them with as much political power as the fucking Mormons or the fucking Scientologists or the fucking Baptists or any other religion/fake-religion.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 05:21 PM
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11. I wouldn't say "unbiblical"
Saint Peter, recognized as the first pope, was named by Jesus himself to be the "rock" upon which to build the church (Matt. 16-18). While Peter never took the title "Pope," that's the lineage which is used to justify the papacy. Since scriptural religion is all about interpretation, that's a whole heaping lot more to base a fundament upon than some of the more objectionable beliefs of the catholic church.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:31 PM
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5. i'm a former catholic and i have no
respect for the pope.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:38 PM
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6. He was certainly a very poor pick for the position.
I feel he deserves no respect at all. Especially with his comments comparing the godless to Hitler.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:47 PM
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7. I don't have any respect for him.
He speaks for the Catholic Church and has 0 meaning outside of it, IMO.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:16 PM
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9. I do not understand how you can pick on him so much
Here is a man that lives with a large number of other men and they all wear dresses, he has special red shoes, is a former Nazi, a person that hid and protected pedophiles, has one red shoe in the secular world and the other red shoe in the religious world, wants to be treated as a god and a king, is waited on hand and foot, points fingers at everyone else that is sinning in his eyes but does not see the sin that he does, hoards money and gold that could feed the needy and the suffering, has no respect for women as equals, only cares about children until they are born and then only if they can praise him and supply him with more money, does not live the life as Christ would have lived it but expects everyone else to live that life, demands that everyone else live the life that he deems how it should be lived, destroys souls that he should be saving, cries every time someone questions him, ........ I am running out of words as the list could go on and on ...........

How could you not respect this man ........ when he has no respect for anyone with differing faiths and ideas than him??

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:56 PM
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10. you mean the head of the oldest criminal organization in history?
an organization who is responsible for millions of deaths for over 1500 years?

he does`t deserve any respect at all.


he`s not what jesus had in mind
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 07:00 PM
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12. He deserves as much respect as other humans - surely not less
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 07:01 PM by stray cat
If you think the lowliest poverty stricken individual deserves respect - so does everyone else. As do members of the GOP
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 07:05 PM
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13. That makes absolutely no sense, respect has to be earned, not given...
earned through acts and words, disrespect also is earned, and through the same process, and the Pope deserves disrespect.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 07:20 PM
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14. Kick
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:09 PM
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15. He's a worse crook than you average crooked CEO. IMO nt
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