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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 05:05 PM
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More faith-healing indictments.
OREGON CITY An Oregon City couple will face charges of second-degree manslaughter in the faith-healing death of their newborn son, the third such fatality involving the Followers of Christ church in the past two years.


Their infant son was born in September, 2009, about six weeks premature. He weighed 3 pounds, 5 ounces and lived nine hours.

No one with medical training attended the birth, and no one called a doctor or ambulance. An autopsy determined the infant died of staph pneumonia and complications from a premature birth, including underdeveloped lungs.

Don't forget the other couple whose daughter is now in state custody:
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 05:10 PM
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1. Sad. I wish we could make stupid illegal. nt
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 05:12 PM
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2. We needed more?
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 06:46 PM
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3. It's needed.
Faith healing is a PC term for willful neglect.

Thankfully, here in Oregon, it isn't a good defense. There was a conviction last year and with luck, there'll be two more in the near future.

Denying a child access to medical care because you think that you can wish illness away is child abuse, plain and simple. If you want to try to wish away your own health problems, fine. Just don't try to pull that shit with children whose welfare is your responsibility.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 06:55 PM
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4. Assholes! Child Protective Services should just take all their
children away at birth, for pete's sake. Maybe that'd bring 'em to Jebus. I think they're misreading the Bible. Jebus didn't say, "Suffer, little children." Really, he didn't.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 07:17 PM
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5. My, my what a surprise, religion kills again. K&R ... n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 01:38 AM
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6. Some of these fundie assholes
Have many kids because of that,"quiver-full" bullshit.One preacher asshole,Denny Nissley has 11 kids probably more kids now his wife seems to be pregnant all the time.She gives birth in the bathtub and the older kids assist her,she told me. Apparently Denny doesn't give a shit if she dies one day,in that tub if she bleeds out gets preclampsia or something.She has no mind of her own and she isn't concerned being a brood mother popping a kid every year or so isn't dangerous, she blithely is breeding more of his mini me's, birthing in front of the kids who are the least qualified to help her in a medical emergency..those poor kids are growing up indoctrinated into assemblies of god cult..It just disgusts me.Christianity is a bad religion.
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ironbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 04:29 AM
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More than three out of four are under the age of 4.

Child abuse occurs at every socioeconomic level, across ethnic and cultural lines, within all religions and at all levels of education.

It is estimated that between 60-85% of child fatalities due to maltreatment are not recorded as such on death certificates.

Children are suffering from a hidden epidemic of child abuse and neglect. Over 3 million reports of child abuse are made every year in the United States; however, those reports can include multiple children. In 2007, approximately 5.8 million children were involved in an estimated 3.2 million child abuse reports and allegations.

There is no single profile of a perpetrator of fatal child abuse, although certain characteristics reappear in many studies. Frequently, the perpetrator is a young adult in his or her mid-20s, without a high school diploma, living at or below the poverty level, depressed, and who may have difficulty coping with stressful situations. In many instances, the perpetrator has experienced violence firsthand. Most fatalities from physical abuse are caused by fathers and other male caregivers. Mothers are most often held responsible for deaths resulting from child neglect (U.S. Advisory Board on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1995).

"How Can These Fatalities Be Prevented?
When addressing the issue of child maltreatment, and especially child fatalities, prevention is a recurring theme. Well-designed, properly organized child fatality review teams appear to offer hope for defining the underlying nature and scope of fatalities due to child abuse and neglect. The child fatality review process helps identify risk factors that may assist prevention professionals, such as those engaged in home visiting and parenting education, to prevent future deaths. In addition, teams are demonstrating effectiveness in translating review findings into action by partnering with child welfare and other child health and safety groups. In some States, review team annual reports have led to State legislation, policy changes, or prevention programs (National Center for Child Death Review, 2007)."

Linking/pinning child abuse/fatality to religion while ignoring the major causal factors- poverty, drug addiction, mental illness and prior abuse is counter productive.

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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 05:03 PM
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9. Except that the mentally ill, the poor and drug addicts
do not lobby legislatures to carve out exemptions from criminal responsibility for themselves when they cause the death of their children. Religious organizations that support faith healing do, and the practice should be exposed and stopped. Thankfully, some states have eliminated those exemptions, but the desire to impose them is still out there.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 03:06 PM
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8. Why the law can't do a thing about the infant-mortality rate of an Oregon sect (1998)
AUGUST 31, 1998 VOL. 152 NO. 9

Why the law can't do a thing about the infant-mortality rate of an Oregon sect

The two small graves lie in the southeastern section of the old cemetery, near a stand of pine. They are surrounded by the resting places of other infants, many of whom never received first names: here is a placard denoting Baby Girl White, and another for Baby Boy Morris. Only a few life spans are commemorated, and many of these are shockingly short: weeks, days and even hours. Russ Briggs comes here often; he cannot stay away. "Those two, right there, those are my boys," he says, his voice cracking. "I could have saved them, but I let them die."

Briggs doesn't know for sure what killed his sons, but he believes that "if there had been an incubator, or modern medicine, I know they would have made it." So might many of the children surrounding them. Recently the Portland exurb of Oregon City has been shaken by what appears to be an ongoing horror in its midst. In June, Oregon state medical examiner Larry Lewman stated suspicions about the cemetery's owners, the 1,200-member Followers of Christ church. Over 10 years, he alleges, the faith-healing congregation's avoidance of doctors and hospitals may have cost the lives of 25 children, some under excruciating circumstances. A series by the Oregonian newspaper announced that of 78 minors buried in the graveyard over 35 years, 21 "probably would have lived with medical intervention, often as simple as antibiotics." If so, the cemetery may represent one of the largest concentrations of faith-healing-related fatalities in decades.

It also represents a legal conundrum. Terry Gustafson, district attorney for the Oregon City area, says of a recent death, "If you or I had committed the same crime against our own child, we would be looking at 25 years in the penitentiary." Yet Gustafson refuses to prosecute, calling it futile. Reason: an Oregon statute that exempts faith-healing parents from manslaughter charges. In protesting that law, Gustafson finds herself in high-powered company: the Academy of American Pediatrics, the American Medical Association and the National District Attorneys Association all oppose similar immunities in six states and lesser exemptions countrywide ...

Followers of Christ
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

... In January 1999, a bill was introduced in the Oregon Legislature to repeal the "religious beliefs" defense to charges of manslaughter, homicide, and child abuse.<14> After much debate, a modified version of the law was subsequently passed later that year ...

Church came under fire a decade ago as well
By Dan Tilkin and KATU Web Staff
Story Published: Mar 27, 2008 at 3:27 PM PDT Story Updated: Mar 28, 2008 at 9:44 PM PDT

OREGON CITY, Ore. - Mark Hass is a now a state senator, but he was the KATU reporter who broke the story 10 years ago - the story about 20 or more children that the state medical examiner said died of easily treatable illnesses, children whose parents attend the Followers of Christ Church in Oregon City and believe in faith healing.

"Ten years ago I couldn't express my feelings for what was going on out there, but I can now," Hass said. "This is child abuse. Pure and simple. There is no other way to say it."

Hass said he remembered standing in the back of the church listening to the Followers of Christ service. There was no pastor and no sermon, just a series of hymns sung by the congregation. The leader apparently died years ago. An elder in the church told Hass that the followers believe their faith in God will cure the sick.

The question now is, did 15-month-old Ava Worthington die three weeks ago because of her parents' belief in faith healing? The medical examiner said she died in her parents' home from an illness that could have been cured with common antibiotics ...

Parents Indicted In Faith-Healing Death
March 31, 2008 12:09 PM EST

... Carl and Raylene Worthington were indicted Friday on charges of manslaughter and criminal mistreatment in the death of their 15-month-old daughter Ava. They belong to the Followers of Christ Church, whose members have a history of treating gravely ill children only with prayer.

Ava died March 2 of bronchial pneumonia and a blood infection. The state medical examiner's office has said she could have been treated with antibiotics ...

Laws passed in the 1990s struck down legal shields for faith-healing parents after the deaths of several children whose parents were members of the fundamentalist church.

Since those laws took effect in 1999, "We haven't seen any cases of significant medical neglect ... until now," said child abuse Detective Jeff Green of the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office ...

Ava clearly showed grave illness, pediatrician testifies
Published: Thursday, July 02, 2009, 2:31 PM Updated: Thursday, July 02, 2009, 8:53 PM

OREGON CITY -- Ava Worthington's weakened and worsening condition was so serious that her parents should have called 9-1-1 a full day before the toddler died, a pediatrician who specializes in infectious diseases testified Thursday.

In fact, Raylene and Carl Brent Worthington ignored several red flags that, if heeded, would have saved their 15-month-old daughter's life, said Dr. Sayonara Mato, a pediatric hospitalist with Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Health Center ...

The Worthingtons never questioned their daughter's failure to develop normally, ignored a cyst that would swell when she had an infection, and chose not seek medical help when she became noticeably more distressed, said Mato, a prosecution witness.

Ava died at home on March 2, 2008, of pneumonia, a blood infection and complications from a cyst that interfered with her trachea and esophagus ...

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