Church launches government attack(Scotland)

[Green_Lantern]

Source: BBC

The Roman Catholic Church in Scotland has accused the Labour government of conducting a "systematic and unrelenting attack on family values".

The attack came as Scottish Secretary Jim Murphy, a practising Catholic, claimed religious faith has a role in British politics.

Mr Murphy said in a lecture that Labour best represents people of faith.

But Scotland's most senior Roman Catholic accused the government of "undermining religious freedom".

And a spokesman for the Scottish National Party said Mr Murphy was guilty of "crude electioneering" by trying to "corner the market regarding people's faith".


He also told the audience that like faith, the family was "another force for good" and "the most important thing in our country".

The minister added: "As well as providing a supportive intellectual environment, it's a potential source of financial support in difficult days."

His comments were in contrast to the stated attitude of former Labour communications chief Alastair Campbell.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8529789.stm

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I know several British people who say that people of faith are in the minority in England as atheists are here.

[Deep13]

1. Stakes? Check. Firewood? Check. Chains? Check. Matches? Check.

All set to return religion to British government.

[Enthusiast]

9. What about steaks?

Why waste all that firewood without steaks?

[kestrel91316]

2. What's the Presbyterian Church's take on the issue, seeing as how THEY

are the majority in Scotland IIRC?

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. Ungrateful Cardinal - Labour cowered before the churches, backed down, and still he whines

Victory for religious groups as Labour gives up on Equality Bill clause condemned by Pope

The Government has backed down over a clause in the Equality Bill that was described as an “unjust” restriction on religious freedom by Pope Benedict XVI.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7139523/Victory-for-religious-groups-as-Labour-gives-up-on-Equality-Bill-clause-condemned-by-Pope.html

But the nasty, bigoted cardinal isn't satisfied that he gets to keep discriminating against homosexuals in employment. Instead, the ingrate tries to smear the party that cravenly gave in to his demands for homophobia. Give bastards like the cardinal an inch, and he takes a mile.

[defendandprotect]

5. Generally true of the right wing . . . keep whining even in good times -- !!

[defendandprotect]

4. The family has always existed by blood line . . . the family the church is

trying to protect is the patriarchal family --

[defendandprotect]

6. The only "systdematic and unrelenting attack" has been by the Vatican upon democracy . ..

and equality for all --

[Green_Lantern]

8. what about the systematic oppression of catholics...

In Northern Ireland by protestant Loyalists?

[Deep13]

10. What do you mean by "oppression."

What specifically are Protestant loyalists doing to Catholics?

Anyway, this is another example of why the churches should stay the fuck out of public policy.

Even if you are right, it does not change the fact that the RC church has been working to undermine democracy for centuries.

[defendandprotect]

14. Vatican has committed genocide, soaked the soil of Europe with blood

in the Crusades/Inquistions -- burned women/Hammer of Witches --

and continues its war on women -- has spread hatred and intolerance for Jews all

over Europe -- and hatred and intolerance for homosexuals all over the world --

and you want to say they were "oppressed" in Ireland!!???

It wasn't a religious war, for one --

but, agree it was posed that way.

Both CHURCH elements were seeking power over government -

Religion is a handy landmine which often takes care of other problems for the elites --

See India -- divided into Pakistan and India allegedly by religious need -- after British

lost India as their colony.

[Green_Lantern]

16. you're right...

But all this is mainly an issue of power corrupting. Any philosophy, political movement or religion will become authoritarian when it is the dominant religion or philosophy. It's not isolated to Christianity.

[Deep13]

11. +1

[salguine]

7. Family values like fucking children? As far as I'm concerned, the Catholic Church has

forfeited any right to ever, ever be offended, outraged or indignant about anything, ever, ever again, for eternity.

[Deep13]

12. +1

A criminal organization by any reasonable definition of the term.

[defendandprotect]

15. Right -- don't you love it when the RCC gives their "moral" opinion!!!

"Crusades/Inquisition/Dark Ages -- a moral step backwards for humankind -- recognized by

everyone except the RCC!!"

Will & Mary Durant

[RedCloud]

13. Respond with tanks and armoured cars like they do to the Irish!

Rocket science vs. heavenly bolts, next on HBO Deportes.

[DeSwiss]

17. TAX THE BASTARDS!!! n/t