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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:42 PM
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Serious question....Why is this not considered insanity?
This article was posted on Charisma and CBN.com (later taken down from CBN.com) and these are pretty widely read Christian websites. Wouldn't this be considered serious mental illness if it weren't for the religious context?



– Halloween—October 31—is considered a holiday in the United States. In fact, it rivals Christmas with regard to how widely celebrated it is. Stores that sell only Halloween-related paraphernalia open up a few months before the day and close shortly after it ends. But is Halloween a holiday that Christians should be observing?

The word "holiday" means "holy day." But there is nothing holy about Halloween. The root word of Halloween is "hallow," which means "holy, consecrated and set apart for service." If this holiday is hallowed, whose service is it set apart for? The answer to that question is very easy—Lucifer's!

Lucifer is a part of the demonic godhead. Remember, everything God has, the devil has a counterfeit. Halloween is a counterfeit holy day that is dedicated to celebrating the demonic trinity of : the Luciferian Spirit (the false father); the Antichrist Spirit (the false holy spirit); and the Spirit of Belial (the false son).

The key word in discussing Halloween is "dedicated." It is dedicated to darkness and is an accursed season. During Halloween, time-released curses are always loosed. A time-released curse is a period that has been set aside to release demonic activity and to ensnare souls in great measure.

You may ask, "Doesn't God have more power than the devil?" Yes, but He has given that power to us. If we do not walk in it, we will become the devil's prey. Witchcraft works through dirty hearts and wrong spirits.

During this period demons are assigned against those who participate in the rituals and festivities. These demons are automatically drawn to the fetishes that open doors for them to come into the lives of human beings. For example, most of the candy sold during this season has been dedicated and prayed over by witches.

Even the colors of Halloween (orange, brown and dark red) are dedicated. These colors are connected to the fall equinox, which is around the 20th or 21st of September each year and is sometimes called "Mabon." During this season witches are celebrating the changing of the seasons from summer to fall. They give praise to the gods for the demonic harvest. They pray to the gods of the elements (air, fire, water and earth).

Mother earth is highly celebrated during the fall demonic harvest. Witches praise mother earth by bringing her fruits, nuts and herbs. Demons are loosed during these acts of worship. When nice church folk lay out their pumpkins on the church lawn, fill their baskets with nuts and herbs, and fire up their bonfires, the demons get busy. They have no respect for the church grounds. They respect only the sacrifice and do not care if it comes from believers or non-believers.

Gathering around bonfires is a common practice in pagan worship. As I remember, the bonfires that I attended during homecoming week when I was in high school were always in the fall. I am amazed at how we ignorantly participate in pagan, occult rituals.

The gods of harvest that the witches worship during their fall festivals are the Corn King and the Harvest Lord. The devil is too stupid to understand that Jesus is the Lord of the Harvest 365 days a year. But we cannot be ignorant of the devices of the enemy. When we pray, we bind the powers of the strong men that people involved in the occult worship.

Halloween is much more than a holiday filled with fun and tricks or treats. It is a time for the gathering of evil that masquerades behind the fictitious characters of Dracula, werewolves, mummies and witches on brooms. The truth is that these demons that have been presented as scary cartoons actually exist. I have prayed for witches who are addicted to drinking blood and howling at the moon.

While the lukewarm and ignorant think of these customs as "just harmless fun," the vortexes of hell are releasing new assignments against souls. Witches take pride in laughing at the ignorance of natural men (those who ignore the spirit realm).

Decorating buildings with Halloween scenes, dressing up for parties, going door-to-door for candy, standing around bonfires and highlighting pumpkin patches are all acts rooted in entertaining familiar spirits. All these activities are demonic and have occult roots.

The word "occult" means "secret." The danger of Halloween is not in the scary things we see but in the secret, wicked, cruel activities that go on behind the scenes. These activities include:

Sex with demons
Orgies between animals and humans
Animal and human sacrifices
Sacrificing babies to shed innocent blood
Rape and molestation of adults, children and babies
Revel nights
Conjuring of demons and casting of spells
Release of "time-released" curses against the innocent and the ignorant.


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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:57 PM
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1. It was holy eve, the night before All Souls' Day.
That then became associated with the occult.

Then it became truly evil: giving away demon candy. ;-)
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:02 PM
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5. Yes, Demon candy
That crap is bad news, I am sure I have eaten enough now to be possessed. And I just keep going back for more!!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:57 PM
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2. The sex with demons thing sounds promising. Can you get me a link?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:10 PM
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8. That chick across the room
the Alaskan moosehunter who just quit her job, she's making eyes at you.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:11 PM
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9. O God. I may have gotten on the wrong bus!
:hi:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:58 PM
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3. Ah distraction or distractive insanity
All the Christian ranting and raving lost its hold on me the moment that I realized one of the more wicked people in my childhood, an uncle, had been attempting to molest me back when I was eleven. Didn't figure it out till I was thirteen, as that was when the Catholic school nuns finally gotten to that section of biology.

That uncle had been a deacon in his church, community pillar, and altogether, respected and beloved person in his home town.

Yeah, let's all stand around and burn teenage novels about vampires, and claim that Trick and Treaters are Satan's Spawn. While we go about molesting little kids.

It is what Jesus would want. I guess.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:00 PM
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4. You are correct, it would
This is sad. It also sets up people who are Wiccan for harm by folks that believe this insanity.

I can't understand how people think this way? Though I certainly can see a possible purpose in trying to have people think this way. If paying homage to "Mother Earth" sets loose demons it isn't a stretch to say that the Earth is bad so why do anything about its destruction? Might set demons loose if we tried to cut back on fossil fuels or require stricter pollution regulations. I fully believe that this kind of "insanity" plays perfectly into the hands of the big corporations, the more sad, misguided people out there that buy into this garbage the more people the guys at the top can manipulate into permitting them to do exactly as they wish, because it would be Satanic not to.

Fat preachers and CEOs laughing all the way to the bank.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:06 PM
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6. It's not insanity. It's ignorance with an agenda.
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:08 PM
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7. There are many things that would be
considered mental illness in any other context, but because they are connected with religion, then are accepted as normal, and even glorified. Hearing a voice not yours in your head talking to you and telling you what you should do, and then doing it, gets you committed, unless you call the voice god, then it makes you a hero of faith.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:19 PM
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10. Comments are pretty funny
At least its nice to know that a lot of christians are calling her on her insanity.
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busybl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:37 PM
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11. Halloween + All Hallow's Eve. The day before All Hallows Day.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:19 PM
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12. This whole business is a phenomenon of the past thirty years
When I was a kid in the 1950s, almost everyone went to some kind of church or temple and NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY except the Jehovah's Witnesses carried on about Halloween being "Satanic."

It was entirely a children's holiday. Adults didn't celebrate it.

We went home for lunch at my school, and when we came back for the afternoon session, we'd all be in costume. The teacher would serve pumpkin cookies or cupcakes, and then we'd all gather in the playground for the Halloween Parade.

This consisted of the entire student body walking the school's attendance boundaries in costume. People would wave and cheer from their front lawns.

At some point, we'd encounter another school's Halloween Parade, and the schools would cheer for each other. "Yay, Todd! Yay, Todd!" and "Yay, Wright! Yay, Wright!"

And we got full-sized candy bars when we went out trick or treating.

Like the fuss over school prayer (which was never a nationwide phenomenon), the fear of "Satanic" Halloween came up during the Reagan years when the Republicans actively encouraged the fundamentalists in their craziness.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:04 AM
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16. Thank you, Lydia. I also grew up in the 50's and 60's, and you
describe the period exactly. NO ONE (except, as you note, the JW) treated Halloween as satanic, and we even wore our costumes to school. One year we were treated to a visit by a witch (no doubt a parent volunteer) who walked around the room and did palm readings. Can you imagine the howling that would commence if that happened today??

Everyone except a few grumps and the JWs stayed home and lit their houses up for the little trick-or-treaters. In fact, I distinctly remember the adults around me talking trash about the jerks who didn't participate in such a harmless kids' holiday.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:56 AM
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17. Absolutely agree
I grew up in a small town in eastern Kentucky in the 70s and it was exactly as you described. We came to school in costume and got to eat cup cakes on Halloween. It didn't matter what Church anyone went to, and there was a Church on every corner of that town of 5,300 too. Not a peep about how it went against anyone's religion or was "satanic" or that we would be possessed. Just a bunch of kids dressing goofy and eating sweets.

Religion in this country has been totally transformed into something I can't recognize as anything resembling what I knew as a child. Consequently, the area of the country I grew up in transformed as well. People have been made fearful, angry, and convinced that their "way of life" is going to be destroyed by the Godless liberals. I hardly recognize that "way of life" they are worried about loosing, it certainly isn't the one I grew up in, nothing like it.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:38 PM
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13. .....




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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:37 AM
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14. religion IS insane. AS are its followers...
some more insane than others, but insane nonetheless.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:40 AM
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15. "(Hallowe'en is) an accursed season..."
The 7-year old filling up a bag with Snickers and candy corn dressed up like SpiderMan probably begs to differ.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:56 AM
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18. Of course 7 year-olds feel that way...
..they've been lured into Satan's trap! Souls corrupted and condemned to Hell for the price of a bit of candy! Can't you see that!? :evilgrin:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:39 PM
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19. The damned see what they want to see, God knows.
I have no idea what that means.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:03 PM
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20. WHERE'S MY BLOOD????elevens Owoooo!
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 10:05 PM by MorningGlow
:rofl:

Ohhh that's beautiful. I love it. A bit of clarification, thought: We don't "pray"--over candy or anything else. (And we really can't be bothered to curse y'all's Snickers bars. Really now! We have blood to drink! :P)

I love the juxtaposition of truth and fiction, especially--adds just the right amount of fact to the crazy.

"During this season witches are celebrating the changing of the seasons from summer to fall. They give praise to the gods..." Yes! (Well, almost. The changing from summer to fall is Mabon, but that's the fall equinox, not Samhain/Halloween.) ..."for the demonic harvest." Awww, darn. Ya lost it. "They pray to the gods of the elements (air, fire, water and earth)." True! Back on track?

"Mother earth is highly celebrated during the fall..." Yes again! "...demonic harvest." Aww lost it again. So close. "Witches praise mother earth by bringing her fruits, nuts and herbs." Oooh, that's true! "Demons are loosed during these acts of worship." Aaaand that's not.

"Gathering around bonfires is a common practice in pagan worship. As I remember, the bonfires that I attended during homecoming week when I was in high school were always in the fall. I am amazed at how we ignorantly participate in pagan, occult rituals."

Now that last bit is a special brand o' crazy. Nope. We're just keeping our asses warm! :P

I'm gonna go "highlight" my pumpkin patch now. Anybody seen my yellow marker...? No? How about my pink one?...
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 11:08 PM
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21. Of course it is insane it follows insane people
I see god, he physically talks to me, I'm his son, I must die for all humanity. Sounds pretty crazy if someone said it now.

I see god, I went with the angel gabriel to heaven, met moses and jesus and he told me that you all must follow me as the son of god. Sounds pretty insane don't you think?

Any religious prophet would quickly end up in an institution if they tried the shit they used to pull on guilible people now.

If someone believes what they said it is not a stretch to get them believing in all sorts of other crazy stuff.
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