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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:18 AM
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Heading East to Hear My Son Preach!
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 08:20 AM by susankh4
I've changed my avatar to the U.U. Chalice while I am away.

My oldest is graduating from Harvard and being ordained next summer. He's in the pulpit as an intern this weekend.

Can you tell I am proud?



(Photo is from his first sermon in Boston.)
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:20 AM
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1. Harvard Theological seminary? Wow....
"Mazel tov" to him -- and to you! ;-)
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:21 AM
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2. Yes. That is the place!
He has a full fellowship. Or, believe me.... we wouldn't be able to send him there.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:23 AM
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3. Great!
You should be proud. Enjoy!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:25 AM
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4. Excellent!
We need new religious leaders.

Congratulations!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:25 AM
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5. Congrats and enjoy the sermon.
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 08:33 AM by midnight
Is he going to be a Catholic priest? Not sure if Harvard teaches other religious leaders or just focus on Catholism?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:47 AM
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6. He will be a Unitarian Universalist minister.
Thanks for asking!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:03 PM
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9. Catholics usually go to their own seminaries
Harvard was founded by Puritans, but today, all sorts of liberal Protestants go there.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:55 PM
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10. Harvard Divinity School is Unitarian Universalist, not Catholic.
It was founded Congregationalist, but left during the Unitarian controversy of the early 19th Century.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 09:15 AM
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7. depends on what he preaches & what kind of UU he is - they vary widely
in the west UU churches tend to be way more non-christian/fundy oriented, while back east I hear they are way more christian in some cases to the extent of being baptist-like.

our UU church is truly welcoming and open to all reasonable people and very multi-denominational.

hope your son is like our minister.

Msongs
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:43 PM
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8. I never have met a UU christian church
Many claim they exist, but no one can tell me where they are.

I have been in UU churches east and west.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:59 PM
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11. Here ya go:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:59 AM
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14. Thanks!
I spoke to my rector last night, he is also a Harvard Divinity grad, though Episcopal, and he repeated a joke about how the christian UUs stopped at the borders of Boston. Many in Mass, overall not many nationally, many of those Universalist.

Most UU churches, in my experience, never mention the G-word. The California references amused me; a small UU congregation in Venice that I visited was essentially a Marxist cell, and First Unitarian downtown LA had services in Korean, Spanish, and English (the same service) and had a retirement home with many aging American Communist party members. Now, that's UU.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:53 AM
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15. I once preached at a UU church, and the minister actually asked me
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 11:53 AM by mycritters2
beforehand not to use the G-word, for fear of offending people. I told her I wouldn't be able to do that. She let me preach anyway, and everyone seemed okay with it.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:37 PM
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18. I find it funny ...
that one should not talk about God in a church. What is a church, after all?

That is also UU, though.

That you were treated well, however, is not a surprise. Unitarians are so TOLERANT!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:01 PM
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19. Yeah, but a lot of my ex's UU friends were pretty condescending about my faith
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 04:01 PM by mycritters2
but they didn't see it that way. They were constantly letting me know that I was "too bright" to be a Christian. Or that they were sure I was going through a phase and would come to my senses. They honestly thought I should feel that they were complimenting me.

I saw enough UU "tolerance" to make me feel right at home in the UCC, thanks.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:38 PM
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22. in some ways "tolerance" is strange word
as in, we will tolerate your belief because we are tolerant people which fulfills our vision of ourselves, but we still think you are crazy or inferior or wrong, we just won't directly say it to you.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:20 AM
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12. Congratulations, Mazel Tov, Good Show, etc.
You must be pleased as six kinds of punch.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 01:42 AM
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13. Thanks to everyone!
I am on the road in a few short hours.

Yes... there are Christian UUs, for whoever asked. But the denomination, as a whole, is open to all "faiths." My son is quite agnostic... tho he was raised as a UU Pagan, and was influenced by Catholicism (the religion of his ancestors.)

I am extremely happy about his choice to serve in this way!

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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:34 PM
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16. What does a divinity major study?
What does a religious leader have to know? I don't think I've ever heard of divinity as a major. I mean, I know that there are seminary schools, but I've never really thought about what they are actually studying.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:06 PM
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17. Theology and Philosophy
probably with some social services thrown in the mix.


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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:03 PM
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20. Scripture, theology, religious history, church administration, Greek,
Hebrew, pastoral psychology. Stuff like that.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:07 PM
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21. Areas of academic focus at Harvard
according to wiki
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:03 AM
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23. Some courses I know of:
Sermonics, Chaplaincy, Pastoral Counselling, Church Management, Historical Jesus, Islam, Fundamentalism, Unitarian Universalist History, World Religions, Theology, Grief......

Just a few I have heard him talk about. I know there are many other options at HDS.

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