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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:50 PM
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Prince: "The Internet's completely over”
Prince: The Internet is dead
The music industry might be embracing digital and online technology, but Prince is not convinced that it’s a good thing.

"The Internet's completely over,” Prince told British tabloid publication, The Mirror, in his first newspaper interview in 10 years. “I don't see why I should give my new music to iTunes or anyone else. They won't pay me an advance for it and then they get angry when they can't get it.”

Prince is currently set to release his latest album, “20Ten,” for free through various European print media, including the Daily Mirror and its Scottish affiliate, the Daily Record. Fans can snag their copy this Saturday via the different press outlets, but you they certainly won’t find any of the new material online.

Prince has banned both YouTube and iTunes from using his music, calling the web obsolete.

“The Internet's like MTV,” he told the mirror. “At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/06/prince-the-internet-is-dead/?hpt=T2
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:53 PM
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1. He's not really full of himself or anything like that, is he?
:eyes:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:56 PM
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2. it happens when you hit 80
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:57 PM
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3. He should go back to 8-Track
That'll show em!

I kind of agree that iTunes sucks though. I doubt I'll ever buy a single song online.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:58 PM
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7. .
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 04:05 PM
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38. I bought 1 song from iTunes a year ago (on my old computer)
That computer died, but I had an archived copy of the song. iTunes wouldn't let me play it.
The control freaks at Apple can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. I'm all mp3 now.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:57 PM
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43. It's just free publicity for TAFKATAFKAP
If he was serious about being a renegade, he would release on 78.

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PanoramaIsland Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:51 AM
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60. Fuck that! Wax cylinder is the way to go.

Tres moderne!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:57 PM
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4. could be that prince is completely over
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:28 PM
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26. +1
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:58 PM
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5. Prince has a computer?
I thought he spent all his time just looking in the mirror.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:58 PM
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6. Several years ago I was the DJ at a Prince consert after party.
Edited on Tue Jul-06-10 02:59 PM by asdjrocky
He had his own guys come in advance and make sure nothing on my board had rec/out cables connected and then during the party he kept having CD's brought up to me to play. I heard some amazing Price music that night that unless you were there, you will never hear and I have to say, that's pretty amazing.

One of the few in his entourage that would speak to me told me that he had a vault full of stuff that was "just for him and his friends."

Absolutely amazing talent and performer.

Also saw him on the Purple Rain tour, the man can play a harp. A fucking harp.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:13 PM
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18. Truly a talented artist..unlike the manufactured studio artists we have now..
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:16 PM
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19. The guy can play.
I don't know anyone in the music industry that does not have massive respect for Prince.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:24 PM
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23. he's always been a tad eccentric..I can't find the exact link

but this kinda points to the fact that artist make very little money from the online ventures
as is..


http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/how-much-do-music-artists-earn-online/

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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:38 PM
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32. In one of his "An Evening with Kevin Smith" DVDs, Smith said a lot of what you did
Amazing music you never heard before and will never hear again, private stuff just for him & his friends.

Cool.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:29 PM
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51. I have also had the pleasure of hearing Prince in a small
setting, music like mad, a crazy sense of humor, and humility I did not expect. Also saw Purple Rain, up very close and all. He can play that guitar machine for certain.
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MarkInSavannah Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 02:58 PM
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8. Prince?
Prince of what?

Is this guy even relevant anymore?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:00 PM
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9. "Call it The Over formerly known as the Internets" - TAFKAP
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:00 PM
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10. One thing for sure
All these computers and digital gadgets in the sense that he is talking, are a mess.

If you use I-Pod, you have to use I-Tunes to get your music. If you use the Amazon Kindel, you have to buy books from Amazon ONLY. You can not use Rhapsody or Barns and Noble without breaking the law and cracking the protection code each places on their downloads.

It really sucks for those who are either uninformed or do not have the necessary computer skills to figure these things out.


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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:09 PM
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14. You can use your own CDs with an iPod
You have to use iTunes in the sense of using the iTunes software, but you don't have to BUY your music through iTunes to put it on an iPod. iTunes will happily rip your own CDs for you, and also put MP3s you've bought at Amazon, or acquired any other way, onto your iPod as well.

I personally like the iTunes music store, but it's far from my only source for music, and all of my music is on my iPod and streamed through my house wherever I want to play it too.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:19 PM
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21. you don't actually use i-tunes do you?
If you do, you aren't getting as much out of it as you can. You can rip cds, or obtain music from other sources etc. For example, just this morning, I received a free mp3 download from amazon and when I downloaded it, it went directly into my itunes library, just as if I'd bought it from the itunes store.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:26 PM
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25. Problem is people are torrenting music down for free
and loading it into Itunes..straight to the Ipod..rips and mixes..nothing goes to artist.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:38 PM
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42. I can understand the protection for the artist
And I realize that those who steal art have caused this for all of us.

It is the companies like Barns & Noble, Amazon and Borders who are forcing you to buy their reader to read the same book purchased there.

It is like if I choose one, I am locked into buying only from them. Say, I buy a Kindle and then I am given a gift card for Barns & Noble for $10. You can buy an ebook for $10 but you have to have a Nook or you can only read it on you PC.

What really pisses you off is they have a sample of the ebook you can download and when you test that on your reader, it works. But once you purchase it, bam.

Here is the really scary part; the security key they have put in the file you just purchased contains your name and credit card number. No one asked me if they could hide that in a file.

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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 10:11 PM
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45. Unless your Trent Reznor
who uploaded several free albums to The Pirate Bay until TPB got it's death notice.

cheaper for the artist to release a free album online than a free cd .....
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PanoramaIsland Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:54 AM
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61. Ah, Trent. The grand prince of angst.
Now, if only people didn't think that what he makes is "industrial."
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:29 PM
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28. You can convert CDs into mp3s for free, with or without iTunes.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:34 PM
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30. Exactly, don't buy any hardware that forces you to use their software
Or buy their licensed products alone.

I'll never buy an Ipod or a kindle, and there will always be competitors that are not trying to strangle the entire market for themselves.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:38 PM
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50. alternatives to iTunes
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:52 AM
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53. " It really sucks for those who are either uninformed.."
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 02:56 AM by Touchdown
:rofl:

Funny Stuff!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:15 PM
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58. You don't have to use iTunes to get music
However, you do have to use it as an interface.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:04 PM
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11. Prince is clueless. Hell, the bands that let people listen to their music free on You Tube
and elsewhere without pulling the plug are the ones that are HUGE hits and draw in the record crowds at concerts which is where the real money is.

I'm no fan of Justin Bieber but that kid became an overnight sensation because of You Tube.

Prince must have sung "Let's go crazy" a few times too many. :crazy:
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:07 PM
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12. He's odd, I think his point might be that the internet isn't cutting edge anymore, the next thing is
'out there' somewhere and hasn't been discovered yet.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:12 PM
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17. +100


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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:09 PM
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13. He's just partying like it's 1999.
Has a different meaning these days.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:56 PM
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35. I was gonna say "Party like it's 1899!"
:P
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:09 PM
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15. He added, "Now get off my lawn. Damn kids!"
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:09 PM
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16. Internet: Prince is dead
Yet another marginal talent making pronouncements that are inane
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:25 PM
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24. marginal talent = evaluation fail
.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:56 PM
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36. Say what you will about this particular pronouncement by Mr. Nelson
But to call him a "marginal talent" is preposterous.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:18 PM
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20. iTunes is crap but the internet is just fine.
Net music will be fine as long as we don't let any company dominate and screw it up. iTunes is trying pretty hard. I keep getting offers for "free" songs on iTunes. I don't bother. I have no interest in a restrictive program that won't let me transfer music the way I want. iTunes is designed for the record industry, not the consumer or artist.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:38 PM
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33. For the recording industry 24 bit @ 96khz is the defacto standard.
Good luck uploading/downloading that in any due time.

The recording industry and the mp3 sales industry are different industries.

The former is high-end, the latter is crap.





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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 04:39 AM
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46. Are you talking about DRM (digital rights management)?
Music from iTunes hasn't had DRM for a while now. You can transfer it anywhere you want. What kind of transfer do you want to do that you don't think you can do?

Video front iTunes is another matter... that's still stuck in DRM hell.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:39 PM
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47. is it still m4p format?
I prefer mp3 to m4p. I can tag it however I like, use whatever program I want to play it.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 04:49 PM
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48. It's .m4a
.m4p is the extension for DRMed .m4a, both of which are basically AAC in a QuickTime wrapper.

Plenty of non-Apple hardware will play .m4a these days, and while there may not be the huge profusion of tagging utilities for that format as exist for MP3, you can certainly tag .m4a in iTunes however you like. Your music won't be stuck with whatever tagging it downloads with, if that's what you're thinking, or with whatever automatically downloaded from CDDB for your ripped CDs.

I'm pretty fussy about tagging myself, and iTunes is very flexible about tagging now, including all kinds of sorting tag options if you take the trouble to use them. There's probably non-iTunes software to edit .m4a tagging too, but since I get by pretty well with iTunes, I haven't made a point of finding other options.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 04:59 PM
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49. okay
I have my own software I use to tag my mp3 files, as I'm also very fussy. I buy my music from Amazon, when I buy digitally.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:22 PM
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22. Prince who?
:shrug:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:28 PM
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27. Well, that's it then. Everyone pack up and go home.
Shows over, move your feet people. The exit's are clearly marked on your left and right. Move along now.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:31 PM
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29. Consider this: his eccentricity allows him to see
Something others can't.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:36 PM
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31. very conservative.. also believes god hates gays
guess he better release on vinyl
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 04:14 PM
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39. He wasn't conservative and gay-hating until he converted to
Jehovah's Witness a few years back.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 02:09 PM
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56. Not that we saw.... but he was always strange. One of his people that
used to "dress" him said the best kept secret about him was that he was basically a "cross-dresser". Maybe he runs from him self......I mean.. how long can you emulate "Little Richard" and not be aware that you might be seen in similar light?
That being said, I love Prince. But then again, I am from Minneapolis.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:48 PM
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34. Internet: "Prince dresses funny and is too short."
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 03:57 PM
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37. I can't stop loving him...
Edited on Tue Jul-06-10 03:58 PM by stuntcat
Being religious is usually the first thing that would turn me off.. and then his weird gay-hatin' crap :puke: He's definitely a WACKO, in a lot of ways.

But he was my first love and I can't change that. He's so talented, and amazing in concert, and sexay, AND vegan :loveya:

And my gay friends still love him too.
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Fast Dude Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 04:29 PM
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40. The artist FORMERLY known as a star
Who cares what this has been thinks?
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JenniferJuniper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 04:46 PM
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41. Akin to saying "Indoor plumbing's completely over"
And I'm sure if there had ever been an Outhouse Builders Union, that's what they would have hoped. Wouldn't it make it true though.

“I don't see why I should give my new music to iTunes or anyone else. They won't pay me an advance for it."

Let Prince have his 1999 dream.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 10:09 PM
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44. actually the internet killed MTV rather fast
But prince really has no need for money so he can say whatever he wants.

Nets here to stay for a long time. It's just beginning. Bout as clueless as John Boner is about the moratorium on offshore oil drilling...
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:09 AM
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52. Prince: The Artist Formerly Known As Relevant.
If he's hoarding some great music he should release it. It has to be better than most of the junk he has released.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:57 AM
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54. A friend of mine is auditioning for bassist in Prince's fall tour band.
He was hooked up by Prince's drummer who lives here in St Pete. Keeping my fingers crossed for friend, he's a recent college grad, needs the job, and is a bad-ass bassist. I've heard the drummer play locally too - he's also fantastic. Prince and his touring band could be one hell of a show.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 02:01 PM
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55. He puts on a great show.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:15 AM
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57. He's a freak to be sure but the man is gifted musically.
Serious genius...they're all like that.
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Wolf Frankula Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:25 PM
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59. The Artist who still answers to the name 'Yo Schmuck!' is over
The internet is fine. Goombye Princey wincey.

Wolf
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:18 PM
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62. Funny, that's where I just found his last CD.
:)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 04:46 PM
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63. I'm gonna go find it twice...in his honor. (n/t)
:headbang:
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