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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:07 PM
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who was that prick just on Olbermann!!!!
ALL I COULD SAY TO THE TV WAS STFU!!!

how the hell does he know the result isn't going to change WHEN WE DIDNT EVEN DO THE RECOUNT YET?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:08 PM
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1. Yep, that would be a bonafide idiotic statement.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:09 PM
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2. and don't you just wish this was a bad movie
and you could leave the theater?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:10 PM
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3. yes, that was badddddddddd nt
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:12 PM
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6. Wall Street Journal Political (Joke) reporter
That rag is soooo right wing it's not even funny. My mother just said "Oh it would be wonderful to see him eat those words!"
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:11 PM
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4. he was a wall street journal political reporter.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:12 PM
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5. yeah he's also a load of shit
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:12 PM
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7. WSJ guy was least offensive from WSJ, I guess.
I've seen him before. If he's Repg, then it's the same old stuff. If he's Dem, it's the same old stuff. Actually spewed both party lines and was kind enough not to say Flip-Flop, used sailing metaphor which was nicer. Still, blah, blah, blah.
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:14 PM
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8. I can't believe Keith O just said that about Bev Harris
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 08:15 PM by 4democracy
that everyone who thinks we are just a bunch of people in tin foil hats just got ammunition with what Bev did yesterday in Fl.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:18 PM
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13. KO did nothing for the Cause..
KO did nothing for the Cause on his show tonight. He pretty much dissed it from my perspective. Guess he is going to start back pedaling as well.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:18 PM
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14. I didn't understand that either.
Bev used a smart opportunity to get some media attention, since the media seems too focused on the hot breaking story!!111!! of Julia Roberts giving birth to worry their pretty little heads about stolen elections. I don't know what that has to do with tin foil.
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:18 PM
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15. I couldn't believe he said that either.
It wasn't even necessarry for the report. How exactly is what Bev did giving power to the tin foil hat theory? He really pissed me off!

In a way it was like he threw it in to cover his ass or something I don't know. I couldn't see how the two were related.

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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:22 PM
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20. Maybe he got the memo
from Ebersol's office...
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:24 PM
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21. I thought that was
Horrifying..he did tell the full story
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:29 PM
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24. Hate to say it...
But someone posted about this kind of thing yesterday on the forums... the Bev's manuever might provoke that kind of reaction (in so many words). I can't say I disagreed.

I LOVE what Bev stands for, and the light she has shed on the topic, but I don't like some of her methods. I think SOMETIMES it's a bit off the mark and has the potential to lead to statements like this.

Blast me if you will :P
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:47 PM
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33. do you have to bash her in EVERY thread
i would think that starting threads of your own just to bash her would be enough. but you have one of these stupid comments in every thread about bev. ferchrissake, get over it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:23 PM
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37. I agree, Bev did not help the cause by her actions and KO just said it
the way it is!!
Actions such as hers are a great way to alienate the locals!!
But, hey we all make mistakes
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:15 PM
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9. I didn't like the way KO depicted Bev Harris
He introduced the part on Bev Harris' statements today by making reference to the tin foil hat groups.
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:17 PM
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11. She has more courage in her little finger than ALL ChickenHawks
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:30 PM
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25. Yep

The gratuitous Olbermann reference didn't even make sense as a report - or am I missing something - it didn't show Bev Harris's supposedly unorthodox actions at all, just LePore. So what the hell was he talking about? Tin foil hats? Huh? Seems like Olbermann's trying to walk both sides of the street to me.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:17 PM
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12. It wasn't her best moment.
That was bordering on the ridiculous. He didn't need to report it, but if he's fair and balanced, you're going to get the good with the bad. I still respect the coverage.

I think he could probably back off if he wanted to, but he lead with it because of Kerry. That's what was supposed to happen. Kerry = Headlines.

Bev, while I respect her work, is a bit too dramatic for prime-time TV.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:21 PM
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18. Bev showed they for the fools they are
they were using public money, it's a public meeting, for their "party"

olbermann should have been fair and had her on finally.

maybe Madsen's right in dismissing olbermann. this was crap reporting on keith's part.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:21 PM
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19. But she HAD to serve the papers, the supoenas!!!! n/t
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 08:22 PM by BrklynLiberal
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:31 PM
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26. No, she could have let them be served in the way MOST are
By the attorney, or the court. Trying to embarrass someone or turn it into a media moment (which is didn't except against her) was not a smart move (IMO)
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:34 PM
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27. but fair and balanced does not equate to tin foil
In my mind If KO was truly fair and balanced tonight he would have dissed her for being overly dramatic or her move inappropriate...but to dis her as a looney, i.e. tin foil-- and he did use those words to introduce the segment on Bev--is not fair in my mind.

Neither is it fair and balanced to have that WSJ spin doctor on saying that the only reason Kerry's in it is because he's trying to appease the "activists" and that he was pushed by JJ. As if. He's going to have to do something spectacular tomorrow night because tonight was just down the toilet.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:40 PM
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28. I posted this in other thread.
Did K have to take that shot at Bev? No. Why did he bother to mention it if he was gonna dis her? Maybe to say, "Stop doing shit like that, it makes you look silly and people are watching now!
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:35 PM
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31. OK, KO could have dissed her without dissing the fraud issue
There are a lot of things he could have said to disparage her actions. But tin foil? That's just going too far.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:33 PM
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40. I didn't say it wasn't
I'm not sure about that shot, I'll need to watch it again at midnight and reply later.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:20 PM
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35. Bev is Too Dramatic for Prime Time TV!!!!!!! What????????
I'm just speechless at your comment except for WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTT?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:32 PM
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39. Stealthy and right
is much prefered then public scenes. Since she didn't know that was a party, I can't say she shouldn't have gone. If she was looking to embarrass Butterfly LaPore in public, she did it. I think she may have done it at the expense of her own efforts though.

I agree with someone who posted that Bev should go on KO and explain her progress and her actions in this situation. But this sort of scene, which I personally don't think was necessary, doesn't play well in middle-America and doesn't further the cause. We need an iron-clad case, not "Cops."

My .02.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:16 PM
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10. Dear NBC: OK, so the results may not change, but it's the PROCESS
we're trying to REFORM, it's voter confidence and honesty and integrity we're trying to RESTORE -- so, is that okay with you, you NBC dipsh*t of a political editor!?!

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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:36 PM
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32. Yeah!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:20 PM
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16. That is exactly what I thought!!!!
Is he some kind of psychic!!!????????
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:20 PM
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17. I think that prick was a
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 08:21 PM by marylanddem
smug, arrogant, disgusting piece of crap trying to pass himself off as a journalist
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:29 PM
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22. The
whole show was a big letdown. No voice on Bev....that was odd, why show it without voice?
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scurvy_n_disastrous Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:29 PM
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23. keith tossed them a bone tonight
He's probably gotten heat. Let's see manana. Not much real votergate news today, anyhow. But, still, it was his top story.
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E Golightly Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:56 PM
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29. Kerry on fraud board, get ready for the ride,nt
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E Golightly Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 08:57 PM
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30. Kerry on fraud board, get ready for the ride,nt
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:48 PM
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34. Fucking Wall Street Prick too used to insider trading
Of course HE KNOWS in ADVANCE.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:23 PM
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36. Olbermann as a journalist should have challenged

those repeated bullshit pronouncements about there being no change in a recount. I kept waiting for some response from Olbermann but it didn't come. Very disappointing - but in keeping with his Bev Harris critique.
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kitp Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:32 PM
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38. did you all miss it?
The WORST thing KO said was that a recount without a victory is useless "as Al Gore found out in 2000".

Whatever else you think about tonight's show, that statement has to be challanged. Gore didn't get a recount and KO should apologize for his error.

I knew the WSJ dude was useless as the very first words out of his mouth were the standard repub spin on this election "it won't change the outcome". I didn't expect anything from him after that and actually he only made me puke one or two times.

KO's stuff on Bev was...whatever...I don't quite get Bev's tactics. Personally, I thought it was theater and unwarranted, but that's just me. It's a personal attack and might come back to haunt us, probably not, but it doesn't really help us.

But the statement about Gore and the recount...man, we must ALL write KO and tell him that he's slipping.
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