Madsen had Courage to Nail Bushitler to 911 Scam AND Fraud

[Shalom]

It's funny to observe DU members who know in their hearts and minds that the 2004 election was "gamed", but recoil in horror when people such as Wayne Madsen expose what may be the means behind the fraud, as if the theft must have occured in some mysterious region of Karl (aka Goebbels) Rove's brain.

Madsen deserves credit for digging deep into Bushitler's theft of the 2004 election, but his contributions don't start there - he is credible precisely because he is willing to challenge our thinking, and recognize the "BIG LIES" that even Dems are not willing to face up to (perhaps because the consequences are so large).

We must think deeply and recognize that those who would subvert our right to vote, our Constitution, and generations of patriots, on behalf of their political agenda are not beyond staging and gaming 911, which I for one am completely conviced of. The support for this is staggering - Madsen refers to just a few facts in his article below. I think the best place to become a 911 Conspiracy theorist is the so-called collision of a 757 into the Pentagon, since the physical evidence is completely contrary to the claims).

Please note that Madsen observes what really is quite obvious: that the response of George Walker Bushitler and his staff on 9/11 suggest very strongly they had an idea of what was coming. Even more damming is the fact that the behavior and body language (nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs) of Bushitler PRIOR to being "told" that America was under attack is PRECISELY the same as after being notified by Andrew Card.

WAKE UP AMERICA AND SMELL THE FILTHY REPUGNICAN COFFEE - IT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN !!!!


http://www.counterpunch.com/madsen04082004.html

Rice (and the Record) Proves It
Bush Knew, But Failed to Act
By WAYNE MADSEN

Condoleezza Rice's testimony before the 911 Commission on April 8 provided yet more proof that the Bush administration and some within the intelligence community were aware before 911 of specific domestic terrorist threats by Al Qaeda cells operating within the United States.

Many of those who watched Bush's impassive reaction on television the morning of 911 to being told by his Chief of Staff Andy Card during a visit to the Emma Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida that two planes had struck the World Trade Center towers were genuinely puzzled by the president's unusual facial response. The 911 Commission hearings may have stumbled on to the reason for the ho hum reaction -- that the attacks came as no real surprise to Bush.

[texpatriot2004]

1. It's hard to wrap my mind around but I'm no criminal

I think you have a point Shalom. We don't like to hear the dirty part. Even those of us who believe there was foul play have difficulty hearing just how foul. I commend Madsen and sources. I don't know that I believe it ALL but I am glad he's on the job. I have such a luxury being American, I really don't have to know the evils that are done by my government. It's easy to ignore. It's easy to remain uninformed. It's much harder to awaken to the horrors of the evil and even harder still to rise up and fight them.

[StClone]

2. Please don't link the Pentagon Crash to Votegate 2004

I have heard witnesses to the crash and it is beyond question what they saw.

[Shalom]

7. It's the Same Conspiracy !

While I appreciate your motivation is not tying Votergate to unproven 911 conspiracy theories, I for one believe they are the same conspiracy, and when we recognize this, it makes Votergate all the more urgent to expose.

While agreeing to disagree, we should recognize that Bushitler complicity in 911 does not rely upon the Pentagon crash, which as I pointed out is physically IMPOSSIBLE to explain - how did such a large aircraft, piloted by a novice, manage to fly A FEET OFF THE GROUND, then escape thru a spider hole in the Pentagon, and then "vaporize", without leaving any recongizable debris either inside or outside the structure ?

Regarding the Pentagon, as you know the Kennedy execution was hidden by discounting all the "grassy knoll" witnesses, and dragging up and highlighting a bunch of people to support the Warren Commission's coverup.

I give you a few references to question your conclusion. The first is a statement by Donald Rumsfeld in which he refers to a missile striking the Pentagon (when is the last time you mispoke and refered to a plane as a missile ?).

The second is from a very credible eye witness (and there are others) who pointed out that the aircraft was not at all like a 757.

The third citation is from Bushitler's soul brother, Adolf Hitler.



1. Statement by Donald Rumsfeld
(interview on Oct. 12 2001 regarding attack on Pentagon)

It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building ….
from the US Department of Defense Web Site!
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html


2. A Witness Account :Washington Post Online, Sept. 11 2003
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html


Steve Patterson, 43, said he was watching television reports of the World Trade Center being hit when he saw a silver commuter jet fly past the window of his 14th-floor apartment in Pentagon City. The plane was about 150 yards away, approaching from the west about 20 feet off the ground, Patterson said.
He said the plane, which sounded like the high-pitched squeal of a fighter jet, flew over Arlington cemetery so low that he thought it was going to land on I-395. He said it was flying so fast that he couldn't read any writing on the side.
The plane, which appeared to hold about eight to 12 people, headed straight for the Pentagon but was flying as if coming in for a landing on a nonexistent runway, Patterson said.
He said the plane, which approached the Pentagon below treetop level, seemed to be flying normally for a plane coming in for a landing other than going very fast for being so low. Then, he said, he saw the Pentagon "envelope" the plane and bright orange flames shoot out the back of the building.
"It looked like a normal landing, as if someone knew exactly what they were doing," said Patterson, a graphics artist who works at home. "This looked intentional."

Comments: There were numerous other witness accounts of various aircraft at this time. This one is interesting because it was published the same day, and the witness was a graphics artist who would be good at visualization.


3. from "Mein Kampf" by Adolph Hitler:

All this was inspired by the principle -- which is quite true in itself – that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.
For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.

[StClone]

10. What I've seen.

Did you notice the size of the impact holes the planes left in the WTC crashes? The WTC buildings were not reinforced concrete as were the Pentagon. Yet, it was not as large a hole as would be expected by a large high-speed passenger plane impact. As for the lack of debris and bodies, the WTC had little though the fire and ensuing collapses may account for that.

[Ganja Ninja]

3. Don't forget the Anthrax attacks either.

I think it's far more plausible Bushler was involved in them than 9/11.

[Minstrel Boy]

5. Wayne Madsen wrote an important piece on the anthrax attacks

for Counterpunch in April 2002, titled "Thinking the Unthinkable."

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsenanthrax.html

[Ganja Ninja]

8. Good article! Thanks for the link. n/t

[Shalom]

9. Good Connection - Anthrax was staged to stifle Congress

Thanks for pointing this out - it is clear that after the "shock and awe" of 911, that Congress and esp. Tom Daschle were scared off from asking any questions about 911 by the staged anthrax attacks.

[Vidar]

4. I applaud Madsen for his efforts while reserving judgment

on some details. I don't see any doubt to the rigged elections & I believe at the very least that Dubya could have prevented 9-11, if his cohorts didn't in fact instigate it.

[The Doctor.]

6. Neat article - Thanks. n/t

[texpatriot2004]

11. kick

[Ducks In A Row]

12. Madsen managed to flush more freepers out in the open...

the ones who didn't give themselves away following the election.

:)