New Mexico SOS to announce Official Results Today Nov 23

[FullCountNotRecount]

Bush is leading by 6,000 on their site. Note the new disclaimer on their site:

Disclaimer: Many New Mexico Counties entered their election night returns into this election reporting system using county-wide totals. For the official canvass county vote totals must be entered by precinct. When counties begin entering their returns by precinct, the county wide numbers are temporarily withdrawn. This has the effect of producing large drops in vote totals and can even appear to change race outcomes until the county re-enters their data by precinct. We apologize for the confusion this has created. Because of the public demand for transparency, we decided at the last minute to allow the public to see the changes in vote totals as the Secretary of State's Office proceeds through the official canvassing of the election. Please bear with us for the rest of the current canvass. The election results will be made official on November 23, 2004. -Rebecca Vigil-Giron
Secretary of State

http://www.sos.state.nm.us/

[petepillow]

1. linkage?

pretty please? :)

[FullCountNotRecount]

2. Link:

http://www.sos.state.nm.us/

[petepillow]

3. thanky thanky :)

[FullCountNotRecount]

4. Interesting in the NM State Supreme court

Democrats got almost 40,000 more votes than Kerry.

[nolabels]

5. Is there any paper trail in that state?

or they hooked up to paperless?

[Wordie]

36. I checked it...are they done? Are there only 33 counties in NM?

I accessed it at 8:22 EST, and it says Bush by about 6,000. Is that it?

[Wordie]

46. Kick

[geo]

6. way to go....

We need to keep NM on our radar, especially with allegations of fraud, the close results and the disparate numbers in the exit polling. Let's keep this kicked until we here more. Anyone out there in or near New Mexico, can you start digging up links and keep up with all the current data in this thread? :) Thanks, - G

[PeterPan]

7. is anyone challenging this election prior to certification

and failing that is anyone organizing a recount drive there?

[understandinglife]

8. And, urge anyone with knowledge of irregularities to post to...

...Congressman Nadler's new site.

Guidlines from Congressman Nadler

Register Your Official Comments

The House Judiciary Committee has jurisdiction over the Voting Rights Act, the Help America Vote Act, and our constitutional rights to free and fair democratic elections. As the Ranking Member on the Constitution Subcommittee, I want to hear from you. If you have information that would be useful to the committee as it considers voting rights issues, items that should be investigated, or would like to provide a testimonial, please fill out the form below.

Link:
http://www.house.gov/nadler/issue-gao.shtml

[NMFreedom]

9. Paper Trail

Hi,
I am in New Mexico and there is no paper trail. I keep looking at the sos web site to check the numbers. At least my county was very, very blue. 71% for Kerry. There was a big push here for of course absentee ballot voting, to make sure your vote was counted, but have recently found out all of the absentee ballots were counted by opitcal scan......
NMFreedom

[Rhapsody in Blue]

10. Actually, I think that disclaimer has been there

... for a couple of weeks now, if I'm not mistaken. I was looking at their numbers around that time and remember noticing it too.:shrug:

[sabra]

11. Bush Wins N.M. by 5,988 Votes

http://www.abqjournal.com/elex/apbush11-23-04.htm

That's what they are saying right now... Any ideas if anyone is planning to contest these final numbers?

[NMFreedom]

12. Do not know if anything is in the works.... yet...

I know there were some problems with several counties.

[Kralizec]

13. I live in NM. If there is anything that needs to be done or any investigat

ing, just ask. A friend and I are at your disposal, DU.

[NMFreedom]

15. What county do you live in?

[Kralizec]

27. Bernalillo n/t

[The Flaming Red Head]

14. So how does this figure into a recount or does it?

Link I borrowed from (points of flight) on another thread.

http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news04/111004_news_vote.shtml

[NMFreedom]

16. Problems in several NM counties

14 machines didn't work in one county, on and off all day, that was the Acoma & Laguna Pueblos. Another Pueblo closed the precinct down for a Pueblo holiday, reopened at 5PM. Some counties had more voters then actual voters. The list goes on...

[harmonyguy]

17. I'm rolling the new numbers into the spreadsheet right now.

HG

[NMFreedom]

18. Kralizec

If you live close to Santa Fe, there *may* be something. Need to get our hands on the precinct by precinct voters registration for each county, for the election years of 2000 and 2002. That mean a trip down to the SOS office, downtown Santa Fe. I'm rural and it is real tough to get into Santa Fe. They will provide on CD
Know anyone that can help?
NMFreedom

[NMFreedom]

19. Hey HG

crossed eyed yet? :o)

[harmonyguy]

20. Yet - whatdyamean Yet ? Still !!

Thanks for the good vibes by the way. We got some snow today - about five minutes worth, but it stayed on the ground.

Back to the numbers.

HG

[NMFreedom]

22. You are awesome

Ha:yourock:
Do you nightmare numbers HG? ;)
Or do you even sleep at this point... big vacation for you HG:beer:

Glad to hear the snow hit your neck of the woods too! More is coming your way, put the order in myself
Later
NMFreedom

[harmonyguy]

26. Thanks - I'll sleep when this is over.

Been juggling NM and also some other multi-state stuff as well. Just not enough days in the hour !!
HG

[Kralizec]

28. Sure, drop me a line and you can tell me more details. When do you need th

em by and do I need anything to request them? I am about 45 mins from Sante Fe, so it isn't to big of a problem. Hear from you soon.

[NMFreedom]

30. Hey Kralizec

Okay, what is needed:
State of New Mexico -
By County - Precinct by Precinct Voter Registration for election years: 2000 & 2002. On CD.

Calling the Bureau of Elections, speaking with the information system folks. The number is [phone] or [phone]
Now when I asked for 2000/2002 general election by county- precinct/precinct information, they said they would need to charge me $20.00... they didn't though when it was picked up.

I live about the same distance but we just can't make it to Santa Fe for a couple of weeks. I tried to Private message you, but I guess that function is not working right now.

Do you know anyone up in Santa Fe? I hate to have you drive that distance.
NMFreedom

The big thing is getting the data to me. I guess emailing it

[Kralizec]

40. Well, unfortunately I don't know anyone in Sante Fe... actually I do, but

he is more of a friend of my folks than he is of me. And I don't know if I would be overstepping myself to ask him. I know how it sounds, but trust me it might not be the best idea to ask him, hehe. But I will see what feedback my folks give me about it.

[Kralizec]

47. Bad news. I am not going to be able to make it today. I will be in Sante

Fe on saturday, but I am not sure the office is open. In fact, I bet it is closed. I can try again on monday, but I don't know if that is too late for the info you needed.

[AnIndependentTexan]

21. A list of things that might be helpful on this

1st
Can anyone create a graph and compare the results to past elections?

2nd
We need a list of what type of e-voting machines each area had. This is vital because we can compare what machine leads to what result.

3rd
We need a list of human errors and machine errors.

[NMFreedom]

23. Hang in there AnIndependentTexan

All the info is being crunched as we speak

[AnIndependentTexan]

29. We might want to start isolating areas once the numbers are crunched

Like in Florida how the paper trail ones were the ones that looked more suspicious then the paperless ones. I'll wait though till you get the numbers crunched that is a very important part.

[harmonyguy]

24. list of things......

1st Graphs & Comparisons?
DONE

2nd List of machines?.
DONE - sorta, not as much detail

3rd list of errors?
NOT Done - I'm too busy trying not to make errors myself.

Think REALLY REALLY big spreadsheet. Precinct by precinct, by party, by year..

HG :silly:

[politicasista]

25. How did Bush get New Mexico?

I know there is fraud, but I thought that and Iowa were Kerry country. Was there something on the ballot that made people lean towards Bush? What happened?

[AnIndependentTexan]

31. Judge eyed on ballots

http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news04/111004_news_vote.shtml

November 10, 2004
Judge eyed on ballots

By Shea Andersen
Tribune Reporter

A Republican judge in one voting precinct has some explaining to do, Bernalillo County Clerk Mary Herrera said this morning.

As the weary clerk's staff continued to examine provisional ballots, attention gathered on one batch in which the disqualified ballots all were Democrat and those that qualified were Republican, Herrera said.

Herrera's staff had been combing through 2,000 "questionable" ballots, which led to the certification of 1,400 of them.

[AnIndependentTexan]

32. going a day back

http://www.kobtv.com/index.cfm?viewer=storyviewer&id=14841&cat=HOME

State Police investigating voter fraud
Last Update: 11/09/2004 8:20:58 AM
By: Reed Upton


New Mexico State Police are investigating allegations of voter fraud – including one instance in which an as-of-yet unnamed woman is being connected with up to 200 bogus ballots.

“One of my employees can identify one person that did bring in the majority of those cards that we didn’t enter into our rolls because addresses didn’t exist,” said Bernalillo County Clerk Mary Herrera, explaining why her office disqualified several provisional ballots.

Provisional ballots are ballots that voters are allowed to cast if the voter’s name isn’t on the voter roll at their polling place. Before they are counted, the county clerk verifies that the voter is actually registered.

Herrera says roughly 25 percent of the provisional ballots in Bernalillo County have been rejected as invalid. Now that those in-lieu-of ballots have been sorted, the vote counting begins.

[AnIndependentTexan]

33. Both Republican and Democrat problem with E-VOTING here

http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stories/0,1413,86~10669~2507743,00.html#

Tuesday, November 02, 2004

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

[AnIndependentTexan]

34. A early vote report from New Mexico

Why the pencil and not finger? I doubt it means anything. I'm very questionable about this one and I honestly don't know if it is good or bad. It was recorded at www.votersunite.org

http://www.cibolabeacon.com/articles/2004/10/30/news/news3.txt

CIBOLA COUNTY - Old-fashioned Cibola County voters who decide to wait until Nov. 2 to go to the polls will find themselves casting their ballots on the same old Shouptronic voting machines they have used for the past 15 years. Modern-minded early voters, however, are discovering they must vote on the new-fangled InkImpressions electronic touch-screen models. Apparently a couple of voters weren't too happy about the experience; Cibola County Clerk Eileen Martinez said her office received no complaints about the electronic machines they rented for early voting but the New Mexico Secretary of State and the Attorney General's Office did. Officials from the Secretary of State's Office sent State Police Officer William Cunningham down to the clerk's office to check things out.

"If you touch between names on the screen, you could light up the wrong name," Martinez said, "but the last screen before you vote shows you all of the candidates you chose. If you don't like any of the names you can change it then." She added that voting officials make sure each voting machine is provided with a pencil for people to touch the screen with if they have big hands or want to make sure they touch the right place each time.

When Officer Cunningham showed up, Martinez said, she invited him not only to investigate the machine but to cast his own vote on it while he was there. "He tried touching the screen with his fingers, with the pencil and with his whole hand," she explained. "As long as he didn't touch between names everything was fine, and he was able to vote without problems."

[AnIndependentTexan]

35. Concerns rise on early voting

http://www.observer-online.com/articles/2004/10/26/news/story2.txt

Tuesday, November 23, 2004

{{{snipit]]]
Eddie Gutierrez, manager of the Sandoval County Bureau of Elections, acknowledged minor problems but said most of the issues he had dealt with were due to voter error. Four machines used initially have been shut down due to electrical problems and Gutierrez hopes to add more machines at the early voting site. He said the machines (D,E,G,K) that were shut down would be set aside, but votes already cast would be tabulated with other early voting totals.
{{{snipit]]]

{{{snipit]]]
"We've had only 3,000 voters and a handful of complaints - you tell me (if there is a major problem)."

In a state where Al Gore defeated George Bush by only 366 votes in 2000 - and numbers are expected to be close again - any problem is a problem, said attorney Pat Rogers, who represents the Republican Party on many election issues and spoke at the news conference.

"These are machines that supposedly were certified and verified before the election," Rogers said. "These machines that are turning Republican votes into Democrat votes ought to be of concern to everyone who wants an honest count in this election.
{{{snipit]]]

[Carolab]

41. WAIT A MINUTE--GUITERREZ?

"Eddie Gutierrez, manager of the Sandoval County Bureau of Elections, acknowledged minor problems but said most of the issues he had dealt with were due to voter error. Four machines used initially have been shut down due to electrical problems and Gutierrez hopes to add more machines at the early voting site. He said the machines (D,E,G,K) that were shut down would be set aside, but votes already cast would be tabulated with other early voting totals."


Jeff Fisher mentioned an employee that worked for Cybernet named Guiterrez--remember?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=66214

[AnIndependentTexan]

44. I don't want to go there. I'm not looking into Cybernets anymore

or Jeff Fisher. I'm staying away from it.

[AnIndependentTexan]

37. official past elections results

http://web.state.nm.us/Election/Results.html

[AnIndependentTexan]

38. Background info

What kind of ballots and voting systems are used in New Mexico?

New Mexico uses paper ballots that are scanned on an electronic optical scanning system for absentee voting. Counties may also use optical scan systems for early voting. Some counties use optical scan systems for election day voting.
Other models of electronic voting systems are used for early voting and precinct voting on election day. See link to voting systems for the type of voting system in use in your county.

What if I do not want to vote on an electronic voting machine?
If you do not want to vote on an electronic voting machine, you may vote with an absentee ballot, which is a paper ballot. Absentee ballots are counted on an electronic scanning voting system that tabulates ballots.
If you choose to go to the polls on election day, you will not be issued a paper ballot except for the reasons allowed in the Election Code.

When does a voter get an emergency paper ballot?
Emergency paper ballots are issued at the polling place only when a voting system becomes disabled and cannot be repaired in a reasonable length of time and there are no other voting machines available for substitution (Section 1-12-13 C.,NMSA 1978).
When does a voter get a provisional ballot?
You will be issued a provisional ballot if your name does not appear on the roster at your polling place or if you are a first time voter who registered by mail and you do not provide the required identification (Section 1-12-8 (A) (, NMSA 1978).

VOTING SYSTEMS BY COUNTY LISTED HERE:
http://web.state.nm.us/Election/VotingMachines.html

[AnIndependentTexan]

39. more background info

2. Types of machines used in NM

http://verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&state=New%20Mexico

3. Problems in NM:

https://voteprotect.org/index.php?display=EIRMapState&state=New%20Mexico&cat=ALL&tab=ALL

[The Flaming Red Head]

48. Thanks for those links

[The Flaming Red Head]

42. Wasn't there police harassment in NM at one of the polling places?

Anyone got a link to that story?

[The Flaming Red Head]

45. Anybody?

[geo]

43. kick

kick

[Ronbrynaert]

49. 50 States Mislead Their Voters

Here's what I've got so far on New Mexico (more to come at http://www.whyareweback.blogspot.com):


NEW MEXICO

In 2000, Vice President Al Gore won New Mexico by just 366 votes; it took nearly a month for New Mexico to finish counting the votes. In 2004, the wait wasn't quite as long; yesterday the state's official tally showed Bush beating Senator John Kerry by 5,988 votes. The delays are largely due to the large number of provisional ballots cast, and the manner in which they were counted (or not).

The unofficial (until they are audited) general election results listed on the Secretary of State's website (Sos.New Mexico) show that 776,010 people voted in the election. Bush received 376,958 votes; Kerry got 370,930; and the third party candidates (Cobb, Peroutka, Badnarik and Nader received a total of 8416 votes. What happened to the other 20,000 votes?

DISENFRANCHISEMENT: Out of 12,000 provisional and in-lieu-of paper ballots cast in Bernalillo County, nearly half were rejected; most because the prospective voter wasn't registered to vote anywhere in the county, but hundreds of provisional ballots were rejected due to minor discrepancies: "A Democratic attorney and an election volunteer for the party said workers disqualified hundreds of provisional ballots cast in Bernalillo County because of names that had a missing middle initial or some other minor discrepancy. They urged commissioners to reconsider the rejection of those ballots, if they could. The commissioners, however, said they didn't have authority to question the qualification of provisional ballots. They voted 3-0 in favor of certifying the Nov. 2 election results, which were sent to the Secretary of State's Office." (ABQjournal.com).

Bernalillo Country Clerk Mary Herrera claimed that in one batch of provisional ballots all of the disqualified ballots were Democrat and those that qualified were Republican. "The main reason for disqualifying them, she said, was because an affidavit testifying to the voter's identity, which is supposed to be signed by a presiding judge, was not in the outer of two envelopes that are supposed to be turned in to election workers. That rule was prescribed by New Mexico Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron." (ABQtrib.com).

VOTER INTIMIDATION: Two months before the election, Republican U.S. Attorney David Iglesias formed a task force — involving the criminal division of the U.S. Justice Department, the FBI, the New Mexico Department of Public Safety and the secretary of state's office — to investigate and prosecute suspected cases of election fraud (ABQpubco.com). "The New Mexico probe was launched in part at the request of Bernalillo County Sheriff Darren White, who chairs the county's Bush-Cheney campaign." (Washington Post.com). "When they brought me on, it was plain and simple: They said, `We need to win Bernalillo County,'" said Bernalillo County Sheriff Darren White, who is helping coordinate Bush's campaign here. (ABQtrib.com). In April 2004, Sheriff White was added to the National Bush-Cheney '04 First Responders Leadership Team. "The Bush-Cheney '04 National First Responders Leadership Team will help build a nationwide network of grassroots support for the President and help communicate his commitment to homeland security and his record of achievement for America's first responders." (ForRelease.com).

Sheriff White also attended the 2004 Republican National Convention as a GOP delegate. While in New York City, the delegates took in a Broadway show and a tour of the Fox News studios (FreeNewMexican.com). Sheriff White also received the honor of being one of the 10 delegates selected to officially inform President Bush of his selection as the official Republican nominee for President. (FreeNewMexican.com).


To Be Continued

Note: links to sources at my site.