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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:18 PM
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Ohio Provisional Vote Count Update
The latest data concerning the Ohio provisonal vote count shows 25 counties have completed counting ballots. Approximately 75% have been deemed valid. Bush has picked up an additional 7905 votes Kerry has garnered an additional 5636. For complete data: http://www.ohvotesuppression.blogspot.com
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:30 PM
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1. Can someone from Ohio look at this site and give us a forecast?
I mean in the sense of which are Dem strongholds and which are Repub strongholds and is this a trend to bush or just a surge based on which counties are providing results?

There were 150,000 PBs, at least, right? So this is only approximately 13,500 of them. Is Kerry holding his own?
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:32 PM
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4. These are repub counties
And Kerry is doing better with the provisionals in these counties than he did in the votes counted on election day.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:34 PM
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5. How votes are breaking
It appears as though the votes are breaking pretty close to the way they did in the general. Unfortunately there appear to be higher "throw out" rates in the bigger higher vote Kerry counties ie Lucas @ 50% Cuyohoga @ 35%
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:41 PM
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9. Thank you, pointsoflight and righteous1
It's good to maintain perspective.

:thumbsup:

As for the throw-aways, I'm sure the Kerry campaign is paying attention. I wonder what those counties' "excuses" are.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:57 PM
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12. Excuses
Well, what they are saying is 1) not registered 2)wrong precinct....you can take that FWIW
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:30 PM
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2. Appreciate your updates
How many counties does Ohio have anyway.

It sure seems like they are taking their time getting these votes counted.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:31 PM
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3. 88 Total
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:37 PM
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6. thanks!
this is a public service, I think. Thank you for gathering this information for us!
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:40 PM
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7. Glad to do it
Be more interesting though when The big counties come in, which BTW should be anytime. These totals will change dramatically
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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:41 PM
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8. Chris Bowers writing on crime of voter disenfranchisement
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blue agave Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:34 PM
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19. dogindia, thanks for this post. I started a new thread for you.
Hope this is legal with the mods.

This article could use some additional discussion.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:51 PM
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10. Do you remember the people that were caught voting twice recently?
They were from Ohio and it dealt with voting twice by provisional voting. They claimed that they thought that the first vote hadn't been processed or something like that.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:55 PM
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11. Yes i do
But i have not heard anymore about that, who they were what party affiliation etc.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:20 PM
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14. They have more provisional votes for * than they do for Kerry
They need to be checked out and they also should find out if the people exists.
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:59 PM
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13. I think that might have happened a couple of times.
There was at least one case west of Columbus where a couple voted absentee and on election day. There might be another case up near Cleveland but I don't recall it off the top of my head.
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saddemocrat Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:21 PM
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15. unpopular question
Can I ask an unpopular question? I'm sure I'm missing something here and let me just preface this by saying NO, I'm not a freeper troll...but if the new hampshire recounts are pretty much looking like there wasn't any funny business and the provisional vote counts have Bush with 7905 and Kerry with 5636...is it possible....that Bush...won?

Running for cover?
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:26 PM
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16. The provisionals don't tell us much at this point.
Less than 10% of the provisionals have been reported.

Those that have been reported are from republican-leaning counties.

Although Bush has so far picked up more provisional votes than Kerry, the gap between them is *narrower* with the provisional votes than the election-day votes.
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saddemocrat Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:27 PM
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17. oops
Sorry...I thought that 75% of them were in. I would love to nail it to Bush and Co...its' just getting tougher to 'keep the faith'. :(

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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:30 PM
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18. Big counties
POF is correct. We really can't make any blanket conclusions untill the 5 or 6 BIG counties come in. The rate of spread in Kerry counties will be defining
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:35 PM
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29. Actually, we can
With 155,000 provisional ballots, and a "gap" of about 132,000, we needed to win by overwhelming margins. Even in the Bush areas. This data thus far pretty much rules out catching * in the provisionals. We'll have to do it via the fraud/recount route.

That was always our best bet anyway, given the math on the provisionals.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:50 PM
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32. Surprise?
True, but the remaining provisionals in the Kerry counties could be surprising
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:53 PM
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33. Here We go again
I see someone is back to depress us again....

;( ;( ;( ;( ;( ;( ;(

75% of them were accepted. How many more times must we declare that. It is tough for all of us to be postive sometimes, but please, do your best when posting to limit the negativity, it is hard enough for us without having posts bring us down further.

This prov count means NOTHING so far. Be patient.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:01 PM
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24. NH Recount?
Today is the second day of the recount in NH, there for we have no idea what has been discovered. And what has been reported was on just a small percent of the total. Let's wait till it's over, and then we can evaluate the situation...
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:35 PM
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20. Less than 10% counted so far??
according to the figures given. What's up with that?
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:40 PM
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22. 15%
With the total @ 155000 - throw outs = about 15% of the provisionals have been counted
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:37 PM
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21. Update of the Update
The latest data show Bush +9029 Kerry +6202 28 counties reporting. 75% acceptance rate
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:49 PM
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23. doesn't look like the provisional ballots are going to make a
big impact. Bush is gaining where he did well, and Kerry is gaining where he did well. Looks like it could be a wash. But at least they are being countned.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:14 PM
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25. Continuing updates
The latest count is as follows Bush +12052 Kerry + 8062 37/88 reporting 75% acceptance rate
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ahyums Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:17 PM
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26. that really does not sound good, no chance whatsoever of Ohio switching
based on provisionals and under votes then.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:22 PM
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27. Had hoped
Had hoped that the provisionals had broke hard for Kerry even in the Bush counties but does not appear to be happening. Never know though big counties still out
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Solitaire Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:23 PM
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28. I'm still holding onto that thin thread of hope. :)
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:44 PM
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30. the numbers have updated, now * +12,052, K+8,062
I seriously doubt that the current margin will decrease below the total number of rejected punchcard votes.

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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:46 PM
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31. see post #25
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:01 PM
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34. update *+26,752 K+22,062 57 out of 88 counties, 82% acceptance rate
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:22 PM
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37. update *+28,195 K+23,043, 61 of 88 counties, 83% acceptance rate
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:26 PM
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35. Where was it that provisional ballot hijinx was found?
Where was it that a judge was found to have rejected only democratic provisional ballots, triggering an investigation?

New Mexico or Ohio?

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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:29 PM
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36. New Mexico...here ya go:
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