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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:48 PM
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Angry New Yorkers Hate New Voting Machines
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 03:49 PM by Bill Bored
'nuf said? Well, K&R and read more about it here anyway:

Angry New Yorkers Hate New Voting Machines

Deborah Hastings
AOL News


It didn't take long for the shouting to begin Tuesday, and it continued today. The new devices -- which electronically scan paper ballots marked by filling in ovals -- wouldn't boot up. Voters couldn't get the scanners to read their ballots -- picture feeding a dollar bill into a vending machine. Or worse, voters complained, the scanners took their ballots, displayed an "error" message and didn't give the ballots back.

"It was horrendous," Cara Judovits, 47, told The Wall Street Journal while leaving a polling site on West 97th Street in Manhattan. "There are about 35 people on line standing there in a boiling, disgusting gym, and I have to leave, so I will not be able to vote now."

Pleasantville, N.Y., resident Terry Rooney said poll workers at his precinct "had a manual out trying to read up on how to operate the machine," The Journal News of Westchester quoted him as saying. "They were completely lost. They had no clue what was going on. They didn't take down my name because they couldn't find a pen and a piece of paper."

The New York City Council and the state comptroller have promised to investigate.


Electronic machines have malfunctioned in other states during the past eight years, causing delays and complaints and lawsuits, but New Yorkers seemed especially miffed, according to Larry Norden of New York University's Brennan Center for Justice. "I can't tell you how many people called me to complain how terrible it was," Norden told AOL News today, laughing. "New Yorkers like to complain.'

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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:51 PM
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1. "New Yorkers like to complain?"
Fuck you Norden! God forbid someone complains about their right to vote. Fuckin banana republic.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:52 PM
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2. Let me guess: the 'new' machines are being used
primarily in heavily Democratic areas? :shrug:
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:56 PM
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3. As the article said, MANHATTAN
Absolutely a heavily Democratic area.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 05:03 PM
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4. Hmmm. ES&S in NYC and some other large counties. Other new machines elsewhere.
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 05:07 PM by Bill Bored
NY Dems have not done much to protect our rights however. They could have fought the feds and given back the HAVA money to be used to replace the lever machines, but they didn't.

They could have passed more rigorous election auditing laws but they didn't (they've had control of the Legislature for 2 years).

It was the height of arrogance for them to think they could manage a computerized voting system, along with the Repubs of course.

Say what you will about lever voting machines not having paper trails, but they are NOT computers and they were designed to make it very difficult to rig elections, unlike the new stuff.

Best hope now is the bipartisan lawsuit brought by Nassau County against the state to keep the lever voting machines. And Columbia County is doing a 100% hand count of the paper ballots.

The Brennan Center is still trying to figure out how to make scanners work like levers.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:25 PM
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5. When you need someone to disappoint you, Larry Norden always comes through.
Despite the fig-leaf of a lawsuit "complaining" that the OpScan readout should be modified (and it should), Norden, et. al., and NYVV are two big reasons why NY is threatened by computerized voting. They took a bunch of incomplete information and wrote their playbook.

Bo and Larry got what they want. Now it's time to insult the voters who "complain".

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