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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:48 PM
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'Vote Flipping' Was Not Unexpected

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Kansas was warned about vote flipping in an October letter from the Brennan Center and Verified Voting. Naturally they ignored that warning. ES&S has now admitted that their touch screens lose calibration during the day, from normal use, and that they have to be recalibrated on occasion. The county seems to be sure that no flipping was done without the voter noticing it; a baseless assumption. They think that the voters review their ballot before hitting the Vote button. That is a false assumption according to studies. The county also thinks they can go to the internal audit log to find out what happened.


'Vote Flipping' Was Not Unexpected



Salina Journal

The electronic voting machines that recorded votes to the wrong candidates in Salina on Tuesday are of a type that has a history of erratic behavior. In fact, the state of Kansas was warned in October 2008 that the problem might occur.


The iVotronic machines used in Saline County are sold by Elections Systems and Software. In October, the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law notified 16 secretaries of state, including Kansas Secretary of State Ron Thornburgh, that the machines are known to record votes to the wrong candidate.

"You may be aware of recent press reports of problems that voters are having during early voting with the iVotronic voting machine in West Virginia and Tennessee," said the letter, which was written by Lawrence Norden, counsel for the center, and Pamela Smith, president of verified voting. "Specifically, voters have complained of 'vote flipping,' where they vote for one candidate or party, but another shows up on the review screen."

The letter explains that election officials in West Virginia were addressing the problem by recalibrating voting machines each day they were used.

"There is a real chance that voters using iVotronic machines in your state will experience 'vote flipping' similar to that experienced by voters in West Virginia," the letter said.


"What they've seen is calibration drift on a unit," Merriman said. "They're fine in the morning, but by afternoon they're starting to lose their calibration."


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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:39 AM
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1. People still debate Hand Counted Paper Ballots at the precinct
The people will come around, I am sure of this.

If you refuse to watch or continue to be convinced that you do not need to watch the ballots being counted, at your precinct. Everything in your life will be lost, money, home, career, ever thing you hold dear is in jeopardy.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:44 AM
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2. K&R'd. Election reform shd be our top priority.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 03:32 AM
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3. Have to agree. kr
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