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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:55 AM
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MCM in NY: "High Turnout Will Wash Away All Fraud." (And NY Should Keep Lever Machines)
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 01:31 AM by Bill Bored

http://www.ulsterpublishing.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article&articleID=463580
'Not just another issue'
Author, media critic talks voting fraud, solutions at Vassar lecture
by Lauren Yanks

Sept. 8 at Vassar College:


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"This is what I propose to you: there has to be a high turnout," he said. "The higher the turnout, the harder it is to sell a stolen election. A high turnout will wash away all fraud."

When asked about the history of voter fraud in the U.S., Miller said that we are in a new age of deceit due to the development of computerized voting.

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"We've got to get rid of all computerized voting machines. I predict that eventually we will."

The issue of computer voting machines should resonate with New Yorkers, since the state is adopting new machines for the fall elections, and they were used for the first time in the primary election this week. While some are being phased in this year, the plan is to replace all lever machines by next fall.

"New York is planning on switching to optical scanners as of 2009," said Andi Novick, an attorney and activist from Rhinebeck. "But optical scanners are software-driven voting machines, and all the evidence continues to establish that they rely on concealed software that is vulnerable to tampering and fraud."

Rosemarie Calista, a retired legal assistant in Poughkeepsie, is also concerned.

"I work at the polls in Poughkeepsie, and we have not had any problems with the machines we've been using," she said. "I absolutely do not want computer voting machines in New York. We have a verifiable system. I've seen it work."

Novick is circulating a petition to prevent the switch.

Petition here:
http://www.electiondefensealliance.org/ny_levers_petition
All New Yorkers should sign, unless you can figure out how to make computerized vote counting safe. (And if you do, there's a snowball's chance in hell it will actually be done that way!)
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:19 AM
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1. Election fraud
Not voter fraud.
:argh:
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:30 AM
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2. New Yorker here.........i'll be voting on a lever machine
In fact I watched the vote come in with the last election,,,,,,,,,,,they counted the votes right in front of us.........we won. Paper tape...we won........it was inspiring to say the least.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:43 AM
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3. Touch not my lovely levers.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 02:06 AM
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4. kick nt
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