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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:00 PM
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9/12 ELECTION MODEL (TIA): OBAMA 293 EV; WHY MSM POLLSTERS "ADJUST" PRE-ELECT & FINAL EXIT POLL WGTS


2008 ELECTION MODEL
A  Monte Carlo  Electoral  Vote  Simulation



Updated: September 12

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  • Chart   State Poll Aggregate + Projection Trend
  • Chart   National 5-Poll Moving Average Projection
  • Chart   State vs. National: Vote Share Projection Trends
  • Chart   Battleground-State Polls
  • Chart   Battleground-State Win Probability
  • Chart   Obama Electoral Vote Simulation Frequency
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Win Probability Trend
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Projected Vote Share Trend
  • Chart   Undecided Voter Allocation + Win Probability
  • Chart   Monte Carlo Electoral Vote Simulation Trials
     2008 Election Model Fraud Analyzer 
  • Uncounted  &  Switched Votes
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Vote Share
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Electoral Vote
  •  
     
    This
    State
    National
    State
    National
    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    Poll
    5-Poll
    2-party
    2-party
    Expected

    9/12/2008
    Aggregate
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    Electoral Vote

    Obama
    McCain
     46.15 (50.48) 
     45.27 (49.52) 
     44.80 (49.12) 
     46.40 (50.88) 
    51.30
    48.70
    50.08
    49.92
    293
    245


        

    15-Poll

    End

    Sample

    Poll
    NATIONAL MODEL
     
    Pre  UVA
    5-Poll Mov Avg
     
    2-Party Projection  (60% UVA)
    5-Poll Mov Avg

    Trend
                                
    Rasmussen
    Gallup
    Hotline/FD
    FOX
    NBC/WSJ

    CBS News
    CNN
    ABC/WP
    IBD/TIPP
    USA/Gallup

    Hotline/FD
    CBS News
    USA/Gallup
    CBS News
    CNN

    Registered V
    vs     Likely V
    Poll Averages

    Date
                
    9/10
    9/10
    9/10
    9/09
    9/08

    9/07
    9/07
    9/07
    9/07
    9/07

    9/04
    9/03
    8/31
    8/31
    8/31

    Size
                
    3000 LV
    2765 RV
    924 RV
    900 RV
    1000 RV

    655 RV
    942 RV
    1000 LV
    868 RV
    823 LV

    916 RV
    734 RV
    1835 RV
    781 RV
    927 RV

    RV avg
    LV avg
    Total
    MoE
                
    1.79%
    1.86%
    3.22%
    3.27%
    3.10%

    3.83%
    3.19%
    3.10%
    3.33%
    3.42%

    3.24%
    3.62%
    2.29%
    3.51%
    3.22%
    Obama
                
    48
    44
    44
    42
    46

    44
    48
    47
    40
    44

    46
    42
    50
    48
    49

    45.4
    46.3
    45.5
    McCain
                
    48
    48
    46
    45
    45

    46
    48
    49
    45
    54

    40
    42
    43
    40
    48

    44.8
    50.3
    45.8
    Other
                
    4
    8
    10
    13
    9

    10
    4
    4
    15
    2

    14
    16
    7
    12
    3

    9.8
    3.3
    8.7
    Spread
                
    0
    (4)
    (2)
    (3)
    1

    (2)
    0
    (2)
    (5)
    (10)

    6
    0
    7
    8
    1

    0.5
    (4.0)
    (0.3)
     
    Obama
                
    44.8
    44.0
    44.8
    45.4
    45.0

    44.6
    45.0
    43.8
    44.4
    46.0

    47.0
    47.2
    47.6
    47.2
    47.4
    McCain
                
    46.4
    46.0
    46.0
    46.6
    46.6

    48.4
    47.2
    46.0
    44.8
    43.8

    42.6
    44.0
    43.6
    44.0
    44.6
     
    Obama
                
    50.1
    50.0
    50.3
    50.2
    50.0

    48.8
    49.7
    49.9
    50.9
    52.1

    53.2
    52.5
    52.9
    52.5
    52.2
    McCain
                
    49.9
    50.0
    49.7
    49.8
    50.0

    51.2
    50.3
    50.1
    49.1
    47.9

    46.8
    47.5
    47.1
    47.5
    47.8
    Spread
                
    0.2
    0.0
    0.6
    0.4
    0.1

    (2.4)
    (0.6)
    (0.2)

    1.8
    4.2

    6.5
    5.0
    5.8
    5.0
    4.4
    Win Prob
                   
    53.5
    50.0
    57.7
    54.8
    51.0

    27.0
    42.2
    48.0
    69.8
    88.8

    97.5
    91.0
    99.3
    91.7
    91.0
     

     
    The national polls indicate a close race. The National 5-poll projection model is a virtual tie. But Obama leads the State Monte Carlo simulation model by 51.3–48.7% with 293 expected electoral votes.

    There has been much discussion regarding the recent McCain “surge” in the national polls. State polls are necessary for projecting the electoral vote. But state polls lag the nationals by 2–3 weeks. View the relationship in the State vs. National vote projection trend graph. There is a direct correlation between the national popular vote and the electoral vote. If Obama gets 51% of the 2-party national vote, his Monte Carlo electoral vote win probability is 90% (see the table below).

    Most of the national and state polls are sponsored by the corporate MSM. But that’s nothing new: Democratic poll numbers always exceed the recorded vote but are less than the True Vote. USAToday/Gallup and other national polls increased the Republican Party ID percentage weighting, which boosted McCain’s poll numbers.

    Recall that the 2004 and 2006 Final National Exit Polls weightings were adjusted to match the recorded vote miscount. But all category cross-tabs had to be changed, not just Party ID. Of course, the Final Exit Poll (state and national) is always matched to the Recorded vote, even though it may be fraudulent — as it was in 2000, 2004 and 2006. This cannot be emphasized enough. Say it loud, again and again.


    In 2004, the 12:22am National Exit Poll (NEP) had a 38–35 Democrat/Republican 'Party ID' mix.

    Kerry won  the 12:22am Preliminary NEP by 51–48%.    ( 13,047 random sample, 1% MoE )

    The mix was changed to 37–37 in the Final NEP  to 'force' a match to the Recorded vote;

    Bush won  the 1:25pm 'forced' Final NEP by 51–48%.

    Likewise, the Gore/Bush 'Voted 2000' weights were changed from 39–41 to 37–43 in the Final    ('13047' & '13660' here).

    The election was stolen.  Bush was the official winner by 50.7–48.3% with 286 EV.  The Final Exit Polls were "adjusted" accordingly.

    •••
    The Great Election Fraud Lockdown: Uncounted, Stuffed and Switched Votes

    Professional associations such as AAPOR, media pundits and election forecasters never discuss Election Fraud. On the contrary, a complicit media has been in a permanent election fraud lockdown, while it relentlessly promotes the fictional propaganda that Bush won BOTH elections. They want you to believe that Democrats always do better in the exit polls, because Republican voters are reluctant responders. But they never consider other, more plausible explanations — such as uncounted votes and stuffed ballots.

    •••

    full post with State Model: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7050208&mesg_id=7050208 -x


     

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    Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:15 PM
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    1. Recs are coming in...

    Here's a :kick:
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    autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:46 PM
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    2. That's a perfect 10! k*r
    Outstanding. There is desperation in the air for the Quisling media and those who think that the ship of Bush won't go down. It is but they play their games like switching the Republican - Democrat weighting in the "McCain bounce" poll, something that's transparently absurd. In 2004, they waited until the very last day to rig the pre election polls. This makes perfect sense. People are focused on so much at that time that the miracle of a six point shift from Kerry to Bush went unreported, not surprising, and unnoticed until after the fact.

    You can be sure they won't make the mistake they did in the final exit, a 60% plus increase in "big city" turnout to cover Bush's losses in the Red/rural segment - down from 23% of the electorate in 2000 to 16% in 2004. They'll make another one though & TIA will find it.

    Great stuff!

    P.S.

    How did you do those links. I'm envious.
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    Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 02:05 PM
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    4. Links
      	
    And a kick.
    
    Is this the formatting you're asking about?
    
      [link:URL|Text]
    URL is without the "http://".
    Example: [link:www.dcscripts.com|DCScripts] 
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    autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:33 PM
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    3. Kick for the Truth
    :kick:
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    Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 04:27 PM
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    5. K&R! n/t
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    Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 07:28 PM
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    6. Looks like fear and hope are running neck and neck...n/t
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    Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 10:04 PM
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    7. K&R for TruthIsAll!!!
    :kick:
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    BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 06:24 PM
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    8. The key element of the deceit
    In 2004, the 12:22am National Exit Poll (NEP) had a 38–35 Democrat/Republican 'Party ID' mix.

    Kerry won the 12:22am Preliminary NEP by 51–48%.

    The mix was changed to 37–37 in the Final NEP to 'force' a match to the Recorded vote;

    Bush won the 1:25pm 'forced' Final NEP by 51–48%.

    Likewise, the Gore/Bush 'Voted 2000' weights were changed from 39–41 to 37–43 in the Final.


    The changes made after the 12:22am NEP is the smoking gun. Not only were the changes implausible, but not mathematically possible given how they were supposed to fit with other numbers.

    That 38% of the voters were D's vs. 35 R's is plausible. 37-37 is not.

    Frankly, the exit poll people who made the changes should be brought up on fraud charges.
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    Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 01:51 PM
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    9. Kick. (nt)
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 04:33 PM
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    10. Updated link for '37-37 in the FINAL NEP'
     
    ...
    Recall that the 2004 and 2006 Final National Exit Polls weightings were adjusted to match the recorded vote miscount. But all category cross-tabs had to be changed, not just Party ID. Of course, the Final Exit Poll (state and national) is always matched to the Recorded vote, even though it may be fraudulent — as it was in 2000, 2004 and 2006. This cannot be emphasized enough. Say it loud, again and again.


    In 2004, the 12:22am National Exit Poll (NEP) had a 38–35 Democrat/Republican 'Party ID' mix.

    Kerry won  the 12:22am Preliminary NEP by 51–48%.    ( 13,047 random sample, 1% MoE )

    The mix was changed to 37–37 in the Final NEP  to 'force' a match to the Recorded vote;

    Bush won  the 1:25pm 'forced' Final NEP by 51–48%.

    Likewise, the Gore/Bush 'Voted 2000' weights were changed from 39–41 to 37–43 in the Final    ('13047' & '13660' here).

    The election was stolen.  Bush was the official winner by 50.7–48.3% with 286 EV.  The Final Exit Polls were "adjusted" accordingly.

    ...

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