Now here's a conspiracy theory for you regarding NH

[JMDEM]

By simply making posts about possible election fraud in NH, I've been called a conspiracy theorist by quite a number of people on DU.

Well, if you want a REAL conspiracy theory, here's one to wrap your heads around (or try to).

What if it IS proven that there was election fraud in NH? As some posters have noted, WHY would someone choose NH to commit such fraud if it was so easily detectable there? And there are apparently little breadcrumbs appearing indicating that this is so -- i.e., the fact that the optical votes and the hand votes were mirror-images.

Because somebody wanted somebody to get "caught"?

Perhaps the first "somebody" wants to pin the blame on the second "somebody", creating infighting and animosity in the Democratic Party.

Now who would pull such a dirty trick???

Despite NH, Hillary still appears to have a significant lead in the national polls. Maybe something was needed to knock her down a few notches? Hmmm... might be counterintuitive to the boost the NH win gave her. I'm not sure.

But one thing is for sure -- if we end up with a split convention in August 08, we may have a repeat of 1968. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we have riots again. And lo and behold -- the American populace, disgusted with the infighting and outfighting, votes Republican. Maybe. Despite all odds at this point.

If certain "somebodys" were to formulate a long terms strategy for a Republican victory in 08, despite how miserably the Republican candidates are and despite how much people hate Bush, what could be a better strategy than this?

Now you can call me a conspiracy theorist. The above is a true conspiracy theory. Questioning the outcome of a really bizarre election is not.

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. It would seem that you have a lot of free time on your hands.

[JMDEM]

2. No, my mind just has an odd habit of thinking... nt.

[kimmerspixelated]

4. I think you may be onto something.

I smell the Rove-Rat and his "math" at work in the shadows. The Puppeteer plummets with his ghastly controls.

[jaksavage]

3. Every conspiracy is a theory

Until proven in court.

I am a tree hugger and conspiracy theorist and feeling less crazy about it every day.

[fenriswolf]

5. ever hear the phrase

"the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesnt exist"

I feel the same way about the secret societies that have been around for centuries, the only thing is that they exist, we know they exist, the affect world wide diplomacy and economies, they control money and power. Yet we still asume we are in control of our own destiny, country and fate. i love being "crazy" because hopefully the sane people are correct.

[K Gardner]

6. Ah, a poster after my own heart ! I am *not* alone ! n/t

[DJ13]

7. Vote rigging conspiracy

My thoughts are it was not the Clinton campaign behind rigging the Diebold results.

They werent acting like Bush in 2004, sure of a win despite the polls.

So who would do it?

Well, the GOP has been planning on a Hillary nomination ever since she first ran for the Senate, their entire playbook for November depends on her being the Democratic nominee.

Obama was about to put her out of contention.

If Obama had won NH the party was more than likely ready to embrace him as the eventual nominee (hence the desperate tones from both Hillary and Bill before the primary).

Diebold is controlled by GOP loyalists, so they did what they could to ensure Hillary could continue trying to win the nomination.

[K Gardner]

9. Welcome to DU ! Another plausible theory for those of us with

:tinfoilhat:

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. That is what I tend to believe

of course from believe to facts a lot of a-digging is needed

[yourout]

17. Ding, Ding, Ding........winner!

That would be my guess also.

[rudy23]

8. If there was any conspiracy, I think it would've been to boost Hillary and discredit polls

I don't think they thought they were going to get questioned. This isn't part of their script. That's my theory, anyway, I know no more than anyone else at this point. Just discussing likelihoods, not discounting anyone else's ideas.

[JMDEM]

10. Wow -- are you really A DU'er?

You seem too polite. :)

[rudy23]

14. Not polite, just numb with rage

So yeah, DU'er. :)

[surfermaw]

12. It my opinion that the o nly trix pulled was by Bill Clinton

He went in to counties where the colleges were and pulled enough votes from Obama to put Hillary over the top...

[althecat]

13. Now that is some out there tinfoil JMDEM....

[JMDEM]

15. Stranger things have happened! nt.

[Whisp]

16. how about this theory...

although election fraud is not a front issue on the media, Diebold and the like have been getting some of their asses kicked by the fine people that dedicate so much time and effort to this issue - it's undercover, but it's happening. They are getting a bit unsure of their gawd given rights to decide the leaders that will most likely continue the agenda for the military complex and other big biz. So they do plant some breadcrumbs of suspicion in the NH election - and specifically a dem primary.

chain of custody is something I learned today that is so very important in the recount efforts. If there is any possibility that the recount will also be tampered with to match the end results, there is no point to a recount as this will falsely 'confirm' the crooked election and future efforts on this will have most of the wind taken out of them.

I'm am also startng to believe that there is very little difference between the 2 top contenders. So if the winners victory is challenged, the 2nd stringer will also be quite acceptable to the Powers that Be, and we still get some interesting theatre and with a dash of false security about the whole tainted election process.

But the whole real game is to keep Door #3 closed - I think THAT is what this is all about.

hey, gotta have something to think about while making dinner. ;)

[philly_bob]

19. "Keep Door #3 Closed" - well said. /nt

[2rth2pwr]

18. What if Kucinich actually did it and now is calling for a

recount so he can knock out a couple of the front runners?

Qui bono?

Who benefits, eh?

[EFerrari]

21. Actually, I did it to get this forum moving again. n/t

[2rth2pwr]

22. You're Kucinich! nt

[jbnow]

20. Here are more theories

republicans might be as willing to run against Obama as they are Hillary but not Tsunami Obama. They wanted to deflate this before it got more momentum.

It was also an easy way to make money. I heard it first on TV but found confirmation in Financial Times.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4cef4698-bf1f-11dc-8c61-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1">Punters cash in

Online traders who placed a $100 (£51) bet on Mrs Clinton were rewarded with pay-offs of as much as $10,000 after her upset victory over Barack Obama, trading on Intrade, a Dublin-based online prediction market, showed.

Her chances of winning in New Hampshire plummeted to a record low of 1 per cent after her defeat in last week's Iowa caucuses. It prompted online traders to shift almost all their bets to Mr Obama, Intrade data showed.

Obama's chances surged to as high as 99 per cent on Tuesday after polls indicated that he was also ahead in New Hampshire.

Place a few $1000 bets, win a few $100,000 pay offs and pretty soon you are talking about real money. Wouldn't have to be partisan to do that.

[JMDEM]

23. Holy Shit. NT.

[JMDEM]

24. I hope you don't mind. I'm going to make this a new thread. NT.