Today's Cincinnati Enquirer: ''For Some, Ohio Still is Not Decided"

[flpoljunkie]

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041113/NEWS01/411130389

Saturday, November 13, 2004

For some, Ohio still is not decided

Kerry voters demand investigation of count

By Carl Weiser
Enquirer Washington Bureau

PROVISIONAL OHIO PRESIDENTIAL VOTES WAIT TO BE COUNTED

WASHINGTON - You thought the presidential election was over in Ohio?

President Bush, Sen. John Kerry, the Ohio secretary of state, and both national and state Democratic and Republican parties certainly think so.

But on the Web, in e-mails, on radio and on television, a mounting chorus of Kerry supporters is pushing the notion that Bush won Ohio through fraud, conspiracies or voting machine malfunctions.

"We know there have been way too many voting irregularities for this to be a glitch," said Lisa Kelly, 45, of Middletown, Del., one of the army of Kerry supporters calling and e-mailing anyone she can to reopen the election in Ohio. "I think it is a concerted effort to affect the outcome of the election in a fraudulent manner."

<>Through Web sites like www.democraticunderground.org, www.blackboxvoting.org, www.dailykos.com, www.indyvoter.org, www.freepress.org and even one called www.recountohio.org, anti-Bush forces are pushing for investigations, recounts and even a retraction of Kerry's concession.

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[TrueAmerican]

1. I thought it was

www.democraticunderground.COM not ORG?

[flpoljunkie]

2. Indeed, it is. They got it wrong!

[fasttense]

3. WE CRAZIES WHAT YOU GOING TO? MAYBE OUTLAW THE

Internet. That would stop citizens from thinking a few minor glitches in the election is fraud. Silly, silly people think their elections should run fairly, without serious glitches.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

9. Perish the thought

that they could put some kind of lockdown on the internet. Not so implausible, given all the other alarming stuff coming down...

[teryang]

4. Ooh, the dirty word, litigation

"For the last half century, anytime anyone has not liked something, they've litigated it," he said. "Why should elections be any different?"

I guess people with a legitimate grievance should man the barricades rather seek peaceful redress of injury in the third branch of government. Funny, how a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, access to the courts is now a dirty word to those elected by electrons rather than votes. But I guess it would be.

[spotbird]

6. Bush sued Gore.

Perhaps he should have waited.

[teryang]

7. Corporations and the states sue each other

...and the states every day. Only individuals shouldn't use the courts. The hypocrisy on the issue is so staggering, it is unmentionable in the mainstream. Even democratic party loyalists including lawyers are totally brainwashed on litigation issues.

[recoveringdittohed]

5. More recount articles in Nov. 13 Cincinnati Enquirer (Indiana)

There were three more recount related articles in the print version of the Nov. 13 Enquirer with two of them to be be found on line. Links are below. The article not on line was about the Indiana Democratic Party requesting a recount of the U.S. House race in Indiana where incumbent Baron Hill D-IN lost by 1,485 votes.

Here are the links: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041113/NEWS01/411130379/1056

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041113/NEWS01/411130394/1056

[newyawker99]

12. Hi recoveringdittohed!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Rose Siding]

8. Kerry campaign, Terry Mac and the OH Dem spokesman all agree...

Meanwhile, the Democratic Party, the Kerry campaign, the secretary of state and political experts say that while there were hiccups and glitches on Election Day, there's no chance that the election was stolen, or that the results will be overturned.
.............
Terry McAuliffe, the national DNC chairman, was forced to issue a statement Wednesday noting that the election outcome is "undisputed."

"Unlike 2000, the Republicans simply received more votes than the Democrats in this election," he said. "We are not contesting the outcome of this election."
..............
Even Trevas, the spokesman for the state Democratic Party, said some of the calls that have come into state headquarters have been "crazy."

"We're trying to ferret out any suspicious activity, and if somebody has something then we'll go after it," he said. "But at this point, everything that seems to be suspicious is getting an answer provided ... The Internet is just fueling this stuff. What can you do?"
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Why they would make such difinitive statements before the counting's done is beyond me. I believe they are convinced.

[StopTheVotePirate]

11. FRAUD?

Karl Rove (?): "it is all over but the counting, WE will take care of the counting"

[Straight Shooter]

10. "anti-bush," excuse me??? How about "pro-democracy"?

Dipwads. I don't have to hate bush to love democracy.