New Letter From Kerry. What do you think?

[saracat]

I think he might be telling us he thinks its over.


Dear ..........

There is no way to hide the pain--and no point in trying.

We poured our hearts and souls into winning this election. And there is no denying that it hurts to fall short of our goal.

But, like you, I have lived my entire life believing that, as long as you fight hard for the things that you believe in, you can never lose.

I believe it more today than I ever have.

You and I have been part of a remarkable campaign together. No one can ever take that away from us.

And no one can keep us from working with every ounce of energy we have to advance the values we cherish.

Our campaign has come to an end. But our work together has only just begun.

You and I owe it to ourselves and to the millions of people who voted for us on November 2nd to play an active, spirited role in the political life of our nation.

I can't thank you enough for the role you played in our campaign and the passion you brought to our efforts and for how you stood by me every step of the way. For that, I will be forever grateful.

I'm proud to have been your friend and colleague throughout our 2004 campaign and I'm looking forward to continuing our joint commitment to the values we share.

We can only defend the values we cherish and advance policies that reflect those values by have the courage of our convictions. Let's keep standing up for what we believe in.

Sincerely,

John Kerry

[Sannum]

1. where did you get this?

[saracat]

The DNC is mailing this out. I haven't gotten it yet either.

One of my Precinct Committee people read it to me over the phone! I posted a request for it on DU and one of our posters kindly posted it.I hope this isn't just a DNC thing.

[Touchdown]

40. It's his letter from Nov 4th.

If it's not, he's repeating the same words he did on the 4th.

If there's a new one, then I haven't gotten it yet. Last one I got was his thanking me for being a Veteran on Thursday. I ignore Cahill's.

[Gloria]

2. I just checked my mail...nothing there...

where does this come from???

[coloradodem2005]

3. Hopefully, he will still fight behind the scene.

n/t

[genieroze]

4. Sounds to me

like he doesn't want us to give up. I think he's saying that he may not win the election but the bigger picture is democracy. I think we really need to get to the bottom of this mess and prove there was fraud at the most or at least we should address the issues with these machines. Personally I think Bush is going to crash and burn, and I would be willing to give him enough rope to let him hang himself.

[TruthOutDawg]

6. At the risk of sounding like a freeper...

AMEN to that! ;-)

[shelley806]

15. I am in for the long haul about proving fraud, or the absence of it...

if Diebolical et al are able to prove that this election was above board, that the seals were broken with justification, that all of these electronic glitches and the bush red shift were just 'chance' (right), then fine, I'll accept that too.

If Kerry is out, Fine. Our democracy, expressed as our vote, which is representative of our collective will, is much more important than the four years of an elected official (and infinitely more than a selected one).

[shelley806]

5. Sure sounds like defeat (acceptance of) to me...eom

[TorchTheWitch]

14. looks like it could be

flying under the radar to me.

Kerry seems to be using the a mask of "We aren't looking to overturn the election; we just want to get the votes counted accurately <insert innocent, no biggie, shrug>." The RePukes would assume that if that is his true intention, then protocol is to put out a nice sappy boo-hoo, we'll git 'em next time letter to his followers. They'd wonder what he was up to if he didn't.

[fearnobush]

23. Quit falling for this defeatist crap everyone - Get back to work.

We have our country to save. Election Fraud on this scale must be fought for our kids future.

[ohtransplant]

56. There are many here in Ohio

ready to do whatever we're asked if and/or when we're asked. Let's not take our collective eye off the ball. Let the recount begin. It's not necessary for JK to be involved at this point. Just send the lawyers.

Our future elections must be administered in the light of day and be verifiable!

[GuardingVirginia]

7. I typed that letter!

It's a form letter thank you from the DNC that is typical at the end of the campaign. I've had it for a couple of days. Someone asked about it. It's not a new email. It is the typed words of a letter mailed to me about three days ago.

[saracat]

9. Thank you Guarding Virginia

You were the one that answered the post! I just thought everyone should see this letter. I only heard about it today. But I wanted to know what everyone's take on it was.

[GuardingVirginia]

17. It's just a thanks .....

I'd expect one. I gave money! I don't see the big deal. If fact as I type it now I can read thing in to it ...

Place tin foil hat on head....

' as long as you fight hard for the things you believe in, you can never lose' ' I believe that more today than I ever have.'

"Our campaign has come to an end. But our work together has only just begun.'


decode the message.... come team!

[saracat]

20. I gave money too, but I gave directly to the campaign.

I have not been real happy with the DNC for a while.I wonder if that means I don't get a Thank You?

[TexasChick]

12. GuardingVirginia, are you saying it's just a typical form letter that

anyone gets about a campaign ending, regardless of what is going on? I mean, I think I understand that you're saying it's just a standard letter from the DNC and not actually from John Kerry himself?

[whistle]

16. Oh please, no form letters....

...if John Kerry wants my attention, have him send me his strategy on holding the election integrity up to the sunshine! I want all of the votes counted, I want the discrepancies cleared up and where applicable I want the miscounts and lost votes and other irregularities investigated, take parties responsible to task, with appropriate penalties and reinstate the lost votes to those candidates who earned them.

[ispeculate]

18. my sentiments precisely, whistle

[saracat]

19. Uh, oh! I already got in trouble for posting a thread with

with a similar sentiment. I was called enerything you can imagine because I protested a form letter. Be careful. LOL! (true)

[jbnow]

41. You weren't called everything

This is so off topic, but just talking about it and then seeing your words...I know you are wrong.
When my kids were little to honor their need to swear and be PC we picked "swear words of the day" so we could spout off in public. You weren't called those swear words. You were not called a broccoli sprout, a pillow case, a peach pie and so on.

If I ever call B<<< a cherry tomato it is not a compliment. (I see people use **** instead but stars are too good to use for his name. I like the "less then" sign.)

[whistle]

8. Did this come from the Rush Limbaugh Institute of Conservative Chain...

...Yanking? No way that John Kerry wrote or dictated this email. I certainly never got this and I have received almost every piece sent by Kerry, Edwards, McCulliff, Howard Dean and others from DNC. This just is not authentic.

[GuardingVirginia]

11. DNC thank you

has thank you on the front. Return address of 430 South Capitol Street SE DC

[saracat]

13. Yes it is.. I just authenticated it with our National Committeewoman.

She is a member of the DNC 400.

[SW FL Dem]

34. It's not an email - its a letter

I got mine in the mail earlier this week.

[ispeculate]

10. Well if it's three days old I feel better because yesterday attorneys were

on their way to Ohio.

[Erika]

21. I received the same letter.

He told us iit was over.

[TexasChick]

24. Erika, I think it's just a Thank You form letter from the DNC. I don't

think it directly involves Kerry. They just put his name on there. This isn't about the fraud. You would probably have received a similar letter if Kerry would have won, except of course, the words would have been different!

[saracat]

26. I thought I'd jump in here.

It doesn't sound like a form letter to me. I have gotten those letters before as well, and I have never before seem a reference like that to pain. It is almost raw. I am not sure what I get out of this other than he is hurting, and realizes we are. But I do not get a sense of fighting spirit. I am ambivalent as to what the second part really means.I hope he is fighting, but my gut tells me otherwise!

[TexasChick]

28. saracat, that's okay. We all interpret things differently. I don't feel

offense to you at all, just to let you know. But, I don't think Kerry would have sent the lawyers out there to Ohio to challenge the election results if he were giving up. I sense it could be a giving up letter, but we are all in the dark about this election fraud thing. I don't think the letter is about that though. I have a feeling it may have been prepared before the election fraud rumors started soaring.

He has to send this letter out, no matter what. If he is fighting the fraud, he doesn't want things to seem "out of sync". Does that make sense? He has to appear to be telling his supporters thanks for the hard work during the campaign, to make things seems that everything is normal. (Sigh) But, I understand how you feel, but hope is the only thing I have left. So...I guess I don't want to give up just yet. I'll wait til December before I give up on Kerry.

[saracat]

29. TexasChick, I didn't take offense.

And I am trying to hold on till Dec.13th as well. Everyone I know thinks I'm nuts and it is all over with, but I don't want to quash that small ray of hope! But I have got to say, that explaination of the letter strikes me as a bit convoluted ! But even so, I am praying you are right! I just didn't like the tone of the letter. I appreciated the contents. I just wanted to know how others reacted. It seems there are several reactions to it. But let us keep our fingers crossed. My hopes are with the Black Caucus and what seems to be their one Sen. Nelson of Fla. But I haven't seen that mentioned for a while. I hope that is true as well.

[TexasChick]

30. Let's just strike a deal to wait until December 13th? Then, if Kerry

doesn't come through, we can panic, okay? :hug:

[saracat]

31. I have no choice. I can't breathe at the thought of that

aberration in office.I want my real President!:bounce: Deal!

[kristndem]

35. I don't think it means

anything more than all the other communication has.
If Kerry is working behind the scenes, he isn't going to tip his hand

[TexasChick]

36. kristndem, exactamundo!!! My thoughts exactly! n/t

[barb162]

22. sounds neutral/silent on recounts to me

[Carolab]

25. Pray

for a flip-flop! LOL

[ZRB]

27. Not worried

Kerry is just going through the motions as a losing candidate does, probably to hide the fact that he is working behind the scenes to uncover the truth and potentially overturn the results.

The campaign won't be over until December 13th.

[newyawker99]

42. Hi ZRB!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[GingerSnaps]

32. Snap out of it!

If Kerry said that he was going to contest the election the right wing hacks would be ripping him apart on every fake news channel.

Jesus Christ come on they are working behind the scenes doing everything that they can right now.

:grouphug:

[illuminaughty]

33. I've got my super decoder ring from the Cheerio box tops I sent in

when I was 7. Here is the letter decoded.

No way fall short of our goal
Fight hard, never lose.
Believe it more today
You and I can take that away
Keep working, have to advance
Campaign end, work begun
You and I owe our nation
you stood forever (10 hours in Ohio)
looking forward, joint commitment
We can advance. Courage. Convictions(for Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld)
Keep standing. Believe.

Sincerely,

J ustice
O hio
H ampshire
N ew

K eep
E lection
R esults
R eal
Y o!


Hey media! Our conpiracy theories have just begun to fight!

[txindy]

37. Just the obligatory post-election letter

It would look very odd if he hadn't arranged for it to be sent.

That said, I'm of the belief that they are simultaneously planning for Senator Kerry's inauguration in 2005. :toast:

[politicasista]

43. How can you tell?

It sounds like he wants to move on. Don't hate on me, but am I wrong?;)

[IAMREALITY]

38. Jesus Christ People,

I think some of you have been hitting refresh for too many days now and need a breather. Refresh your minds. Every little thing is getting so super critiqued now. This is a standard letter after a concession. No clues, No hidden messages, no defeatism, It is standard, meaningless, and has NOTHING to do with our fight or the events of the past week.

We are pressing on, we are gaining ground, we are gaining momentum. Hang in there!

[mary195149]

39. Let's Stay Focused. We Need To Get To The Truth!!

[Dr Fate]

44. I mailed back my own letter to them using the donation envelope. I

Stating that they get ZERO money or volunteer time from me until they investigate & reform voting irregularities.

Mail your thoughts to them using the donation envelope- at least you know it will be opened!!!

[bluetrain]

51. You're clever. Good idea.

[Avalux]

45. SARACAT -

You need a big giant dose of optimism. I've been reading your posts over the past couple of days and I can't decide if you're a freeper in disguise or just someone terribly pained by the outcome of the election.

Here's the deal - buck up. The negative vibes you're voicing don't help us. Wrong perhaps, but there are those of us who believe the election fraud story is real and Kerry is part of it. Please stop with the curl up and die posts.

Flame at me if you want for being silly, but I can't help how I feel.

[saracat]

48. Wow! This is the first time it has EVER been suggested I could be a

"freeper in diguise"! I almost have to laugh! And that will be the first time in weeks! Thank you! If you had read all my posts you would know that I am also a Dem District Chair and am verified by other posters on this board. As for being negative, I have been fighting to support Kerry and only want for him to support us. I really hope he is working behind the scens and I am holding my breath until Dec. 13th. I am pained by the results of the election, but I won't curl up and die. Nor do I expect anyone else to. But I retain my right to express anger at the DNC and the DLC. That is mostly what I have been spouting about. And I will continue to express criticism of them until they clean up their act and represent the "liberal" ideals of the Democratic Party as defined by Roosevelt!

[illuminaughty]

53. My apologies Saracat, for what it's worth

From my days of lurking here for almost a year, I would memorize usernames of people's posts I enjoyed. And yours is one of those names. There's way too much finger pointing going on here, and I can't imagine for a moment someone would think you a freeper.

[angrydemocrat]

46. I didn't receive this letter and.........

.....I was part of the campaign. I have received many but not this one. But it doesn't matter I feel Kerry is working on all the problems behind the scenes. Kerry is a fighter not a quitter! This man has never given up a fight in his life (Just check all his records and see for yourself) why would he start now. He enough not to let the public know what he is doing right now because the media and repugs would eat it up trying to spin it to their benefit. This man was a attorney himself long before he became a Senator he knows what he is doing. Everyone just needs to have hope and give the man time to get his job done. He didn't bring down BCCI overnight. Just hang in there and you will see before this man gets finished with Bush and the repugs they will be wishing they never heard the name Kerry! :grouphug:

[bluetrain]

50. I really want to believe he's doing something behind the scenes but

I'd be hypocrite to fall into Blind Faith now. Do we have any evidence of what his 10,000 lawyers are doing? Where is he physically right now? Edwards? Why is Sharpton silent? Dean? The DNC? What the hell is going on?

The silence from the Dem camp is perhaps more frustrating to me than the media silence.

I think the power of the online community was underestimated and that one reason Dean was squashed was because he really helped energize the grassroots.

[brettdale]

47. Have they got something on him?

Have they got something on him? That letter is so unlike Kerry.

[Triana]

49. I got this in snail mail a day or so ago (n/t)

[illuminaughty]

52. I've got my super decoder ring from the Cheerio box tops I sent in

when I was 7. Here is the letter decoded.

No way fall short of our goal
Fight hard, never lose.
Believe it more today
You and I can take that away
Keep working, have to advance
Campaign end, work begun
You and I owe our nation
you stood forever (10 hours in Ohio)
looking forward, joint commitment
We can advance. Courage. Convictions(for Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld)
Keep standing. Believe.

Sincerely,

J ustice
O hio
H ampshire
N ew

K eep
E lection
R esults
R eal
Y o!


Hey media! Our conpiracy theories have just begun to fight!

We was robbed!

keeping this kicked positively

[Her Blondness]

54. "Crazy like a fox" strategy ?

If he had contested Ohio, the GOP attorneys would have descended on Ohio like jackals to try to disrupt the counting by issuing challenges to hopelessly delay the counting until it was too late. But, today the counting of the 155,000 provisional ballots continues, without interference!

And, by letting "the people" demand a recount, which we will, he stays above the fray and avoids that "sore loserman" taint.

[PaganPreacher]

55. GOP lawyers already descended?

I read the other day that both Democratic and Republican Party attorneys were present in Ohio to observe the provisional ballot certification.

Hard for me to believe that the GOP election machine would overlook the need to have its own attorneys working on securing the electoral votes in such an important state.

Since both sides are in place, and ready to act, any advantage of stealth appears to be negated. Loss of public confidence (getting worse each day these Dem attorneys delay) could also be a real problem in "proving" fraud or error to the man on the street.


The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.

[burn the bush]

57. kerry is not helping us

he's got his lawyers in place. described as a handful of lawyers that are only questioning officials. This is from that radio program with nader, cobb, bbv and someone from nc.
they said don't think that kerry is working behind the scenes because he is not. THey say that he will come back out if something were to be proven, but basically he doesn't want to dirty his political chances by jumping in the frey.
But basically, other than what is called a handful of dem lawyers, nothing is going on with the dems.
I gotta tell you that the way the dems and kerry are leaving us alone with only the libs and independents to help us, makes me wonder if the dems dont' already know that something is wrong with the election machines but maybe they have guilt too? At this point, even if it shows the dems are the ones cheating, i would still want this vote counted and those damn machines burned. No matter who who vote for, if it doesnt count then the Great American Democracy and Land of the Free is really just a joke.
please don't slam me too bad, i suffer from depresion and anxiety from even before the elections.:-)

[danfromqueens]

59. kerry is a towel thrower

i mean its not even over by a spell!

[danfromqueens]

58. its not over

it'll never be over. the election was stolen. we were right. they cheated/.

[NightOwwl]

60. Saracat, is this the same email you posted the other day or a new one?

I find it very odd that I haven't gotten this email (and it seems others haven't, as well.) If you've kept any older emails from Kerry, it would be interesting to compare the message history. If you have Outlook, open the email, click 'View', click 'Options'. Look in the box labeled "Internet Headers."

You can see the path the email has taken from start to finish. Are they coming from the same source?

ETA: Ooops, it this regular mail you're talking about. If so, never mind! :o