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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:10 PM
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NY Times: Ohio to delay destruction of presidential ballots. More MSM!
Not new stuff, but great article for MSM.

http://tinyurl.com/s22jo

August 31, 2006
Ohio to Delay Destruction of Presidential Ballots
By IAN URBINA

With paper ballots from the 2004 presidential election in Ohio scheduled to be destroyed next week, the secretary of state in Columbus, under pressure from critics, said yesterday that he would move to delay the destruction at least for several months.

<snip>

The critics, including an independent candidate for governor and a team of statisticians and lawyers, say preliminary results from their ballot inspections show signs of more widespread irregularities than previously known.

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This is not about Mr. Kerry or Mr. Bush or who should be president, said Bill Goodman, legal director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a New York group that is part of the lawsuit. This is about figuring out what is not working in our election system and ensuring that every cast vote counts.

There is a gap between the numbers provided in the local level records, which until recently no one has been allowed to see, and the official final tallies that were publicly released after this election, and we want to figure out why that gap is there.

The planned action of Mr. Blackwell, a Republican who is running for governor, and the threatened suit could draw attention to possible irregularities in the election that he supervised.The suit would follow what researchers call the first time anyone other than county and state officials in Ohio have been given such extensive access to the main material from the previous presidential election.

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:16 PM
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1. did they say the League of Women Voters had to sign
an agreement not to contest the 2004 election before the State of Ohio released the ballots for
public inspection. So, any who, this will be another "investigative" effort that will not
change the results or punish the guilty. Gosh, Golly, sounds like 2000 to me.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:20 PM
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2. stil, it's worth something politically.
If they can show that most of the people wanted Kerry, this gives a huge boost to the Dem party, and de-legitimates * once again. Then those "values voters" can just shut up.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:30 PM
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3. well, I don't know
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 05:33 PM by MissWaverly
I am sorry if I seem bitter, but much harm has been done to this country, and the response
has been tsk, tsk! We need to clean house and punish the lawbreakers.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:02 PM
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4. my boss was really impressed by NY Times article
she does not blog, many in this country do not and are not as aware of the problems with 2004
that we are. She says that this has given her a lot to consider about election rigging. I think it will do much to make others aware that this is a serious issue. I just wish that
two years after 2004 and after some completely boffo years of Bush leadership that this country
was further along with realizing that something is seriously wrong and needs dealt with.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:04 PM
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5. Don't forget to vote up the thread, folks.
:)
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:20 PM
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6. Be suspicious of Blackwell's motive. He is blackmailing Bush. If these
ballots were destroyed, Bush-Rove would dump him like they did Katherine Harris.

That said, now is the time to examine them (though do not be surprised if they have been altered).
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:02 PM
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7. Are other states also stopping the destruction of records?
???
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:50 AM
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8. Definitely K & R.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:48 AM
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9. Excellent to see it in the NYT.
K&R.
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