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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 11:21 PM
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Avante DRE: My friends trip to the Avante Factory, Princeton NJ. PIX
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 11:45 PM by FogerRox
These were taken by a friend in June of 2005, @ the Princeton NJ, Avante factory.





30" wide ballot face


Touch the race/office, and the race goes to a larger Font.





I think this is the VVPAT printer that many folks are talking about.


With the cover off.



side view







but it is a DRE..........
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 11:43 PM
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1. There, I edited them in one at a time.
EOM
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 05:26 AM
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2. If any machine could actually improve elections, this might be it.
It might take a little tweaking and tinkering, but I think they've got the essence of a good machine for elections, assuming fair and impartial audits of course for every election.

Maybe if pap and RFK can take down these imposters, Avante will get its due and become the machine of choice around the country.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 12:03 PM
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3. We don't need no stinkin' machines. n/t
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 04:10 PM
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4. DREs do not represent mature technology. The Voter/DRE user
interface is just being understood. Paper has its inheriant value, of course. Optical scanners have been around for decades, and represent a mature technology. If I were to choose some machine to help speed up the counting, a new design Opscan, representing the best of new ideas in opscanning of paper ballots. Then I would say opscanning could be good.

I think its clear that the Avante Vote Trakker full face DRE may be the best of the worst. Avante has taken a separate track from the big three DRE vendors. They have designed a DRE that makes it appear the guys @ Avante actually read HAVA. Each mandate in HAVA is usually met with a specific feature.

Going by memory-

-30-40 separate languages, for display and audio ballots.
-Touch a race/office, that race, the font gets much bigger
-Hydraulic height adjustment for whellchair voters, or standing voters.
-Something was using Linux, I forget which component.
-DRE burns CD-ROM with end of voting tallies, which are taken to a tabulator.
-these guys are geeks and looked at HAVA & the Volutary Voting System Standards and made a due diligence effort in producing a generally compliant DRE.
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Febble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 04:20 PM
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5. A few questions:
What happens to the actual ballots? Are they kept on the roll? How are they inspected? Are they shuffled? Can they be easily stored (e.g. flattened for storage)?

In other words, are they appropriate for random audit, while still preserving the secrecy of the ballot?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 05:37 PM
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6. IIRC the VVPAT on the Avante is cut & drop.
After the Voter has confirmed its intentions, the Paper is cut, falls to the bottom of the box. Introducing a "shuffle" as it falls.

Similar to a Liberty prototype I saw last year.

"In other words, are they appropriate for random audit, while still preserving the secrecy of the ballot?" I would say yes.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 11:39 PM
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7. Interesting.

Thanks

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