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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 08:20 PM
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My answer to Pelosi's DCCC latest request for contributions.
I enclose a letter like this to all the requests I get from the DNC, the DCCC, or any other org that should be screaming about election fraud.

I know some don't agree with this approach, but I can't see how it's possible to win any election when everyday the frauds keep piling up. She will not read the letter of course. Most likely nobody will read it at the DCCC. It will be filed in the circular file immediately if not sooner, but at least it is theoretically possible it will have some miniscule effect. Incidentally, the candidate I contributed to is of course Clint Curtis who is hoping to take on the Repub in FL who tried to rig, and probably succeeded in rigging, his own election.

Dear Nancy:

I appreciate your concern about helping to elect strong Democratic House candidates. I too would like to see Democrats returned to power. However, you and other leaders of the party should shoulder some of the blame for the state our country is in. For the past ten years, highly partisan private companies, using secret, proprietary software, have been allowed, and are still being allowed, to count our votes, in nearly every case without auditing or meaningful oversight, resulting in almost certain fraud (witness the 96 election of Hagel in NE; the 02 amazing upsets in GA, MN, and CO; the 04 national race; the 05 initiatives referendum in OH), and yet almost no Democrat has said a word about it. Some have even been complicit, taking money from these mafia-style companies, even voicing the company mantras (that elections without a paper trail for audits and recounts are cleaner and more cost effective than elections held entirely in cyberspace). The outrage of the Democratic base grows each day, yet the so-called leaders say nothing. Meanwhile, our democracy has already been stolen.

I consider myself a liberal, but that distinction means nothing if Democrats cant get elected, even when they get more votes than their opponents. Until the obvious election fraud taking place in America right now is, first, recognized as fraud, and then, prevented by law and by solid, unified opposition, all the money in the world will not bring Democratic victories. Where elections are decided by clearly fraudulent machine vote counts, as is the case in American today, to contribute any money is worse than useless: it actually enables those who are drunk on their own rhetoric and refuse to look at where the problem lies. If you truly wanted to win elections, all you would have to do is require a voter-verified paper ballot and truly random audits for all elections.

To be honest, I dont think you will pay the least attention to what Ive written here since you are already ignoring almost every computer scientist in the country (notice I said scientist and not expert), Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalists, PhDs in many fields, especially in statistics (see, for example, ), and tens of thousands of activists throughout the country. I just finished sending $100 to a candidate who is making electronic voting a number one campaign issue, and I would send money to your DCCC campaign if you had the courage to do the same. I hope and pray the DCCC will one day open its collective eyes to what could hardly be more obvious. As soon as that happens, the money will roll in.

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 08:23 PM
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1. I returned an empty envelope 2 HRC 2day
w/ pretty much the same message.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 08:40 PM
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2. Do you mind if I plagerize you?
I could not, without great effort, express my opinion more eloquently than you and I would like to send this to every Dem who asks me for cash.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:03 AM
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13. Great letter -- I'd like to use it too. nt
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-10-06 09:03 PM
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3. What was the upset in CO? I know about all the others you mentioned but
not that one. I truly wonder about Arnold, as well, being elected on the uncertified Diebold software before Kevin Shelley decertified all those machiens when he found out about it through the audit they did. Not that cerfified means a whole lot given the standards for certification.
And of course Jeb in FL, but they've got it so well rigged there...
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 02:51 AM
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4. Here is a Mark Crispin Miller article on the CA election (from 2003)
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:36 AM
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5. I believe Strickland was the guy who was very likely the victim in CO.
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 06:37 AM by Stevepol
If you google that name and the 02 election, you'll probably get it. It's impossible to know for sure of course since the votes were recorded and disposed of entirely in cyberspace.

ALSO to anybody who wants to use any part of my letter: Naturally I would be proud if anybody plagiarized parts of my letter in replying to the DCCC or the DNC or the ACLU or anybody else who fails to recognize the obvious. And you don't have to use my moniker. I am a shameless plagiarist of other people's words on this site and others.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:36 AM
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8. Just found a DU posting about Strickland et al.
According to the DU posting (don't know the poster):

Poll by MSNBC/Zogby on Nov 3 for CO Senate

Strickland (D): 53% up 9
Allard (R) 44%

Official Results (Machine enhanced)

Strickland 46%
Allard 51% up 5 (a 14-point swing -- was it magic or Diebold?)

Of course it could have been a late get-out-the-vote drive by the fundamentalist churches working with the local breweries.
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skyblue Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:04 AM
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6. Money
Hey maybe then in order to make up the deficit of non-contributing Dems they'll try and make up for it for corporations who are more than willing to spend cash to get a law passed in their favor.

Dems are asking for a raise in the minimum wage. Right to choose is seriously at stake. I don't want any more Terry Schiavos and believe me that kind of legislation where plugs can't get pulled and euthanasia will not only send you straight to eternal hell fire but will send you straight to jail will get raised again. I want more Stem Cell Research. I want to return to our funding clinics that will teach alternative methods of birth control in 3rd world countries. I have no idea how Dem leaders have the time to deal with all the multitudes of corruption the RW has pulled. I can't choose some issue and then say I'm not going to give them money because they f'd me over on some issues. We may be the lesser of 2 evils but I'm not going to pull myself out of the game. My contribution is more of a F the RW then an endorsement of Dem's ability to go against a theofascist RW that has the support of not some, but of quite a lot of states who carry a plethora of dirtyblond caucasion jesus in a fluffy cloud background and get the US out of the UN billboards. (Which if you live in a blue state and haven't traveled much you may be totally unaware of the numerous ubiquitous preponderance of this reality). I live in a blue state and I get at least 3 bornagain stations on my tv with simply basic cable. The RW has very strong support amongst trillion dollar corporations who have plenty money to spread around and Televangelist watching sex-starved born-agains. We have to make up that difference to stay in the game. Who knows what scary crap the future will bring with the RW wanting more support from the born-agains and trillion dollar corporations.

Not that this is going to make a bit of a difference to you, I just have to state how I see things.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:34 PM
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10. Welcome to DU

I agree with what you say, but the basic point is it doesn't matter how good we are on the issues if elections get stolen. We'll never be in a position to effect any changes if we can't win, fair and square.

I wouldn't take as strong a stand as the OP, but I certainly see his/her point.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:13 AM
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14. I donate to individual candidates and PACs like Planned Parenthood
I don't have a lot of money, but I like to spread it around to a lot of progressive causes and candidates.

But when it comes to the national offices of the Democratic Party, I don't respond unless it comes from Howard Dean.

Therefore, if I send a letter protesting the Dem's inaction regarding our stolen elections, I figure whoever sent it is getting more out of me than they would have otherwise.

A good point was made about where the non-donation ends up -- I don't really have an answer for that.

You write a thoughtful letter -- on the whole I agree about not bailing out of the Dem Party, because for us progressives it's the only game in town. Welcome to DU! :hi:


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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:33 AM
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7. Wise up, people. The DCCC doesn't even SEE it let alone read it
these things are done by fulfilment houses.

Write to the DCCC, but not in the fundraising envelope.

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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 05:05 PM
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9. Thanks RazzleDazzle. I see why you've got that moniker.
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 05:06 PM by Stevepol
Nobody fools you.

I just ran off another copy of my letter and sent it, not to the PO Box address on the enclosed campaign fundraising envelope, but to the address of the DCCC, which I googled, still addressed to Nancy Pelosi. I added at the top. "I just received your fundraising letter, and I appreciate your concern . . . " etc.:

Attention: Nancy Pelosi
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
430 S. Capitol St. S.E.
Washington DC 20003

I'll remember and next time send my reply to the ACLU home address, and the DNC home address, etc., rather than the address of the "fulfillment house" handling that particular fundraising effort. I'll enclose in my letter the tear-off form to show I received a fundraising letter.

I still doubt anybody will read it, but maybe I increased my chances.

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eagle owl Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 09:24 PM
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11. DCCC calls
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 09:26 PM by eagle owl
I just love it when I get calls for contributions. When I start my rant they never get in another word. I go on about how the party has no theme, no spine, no cooperation, but especially that they allow voter fraud to become a non-issue and until they can stop Diebold from stealing elections no Red state or Democratic candidate in a swing state will ever be elected. BTW the last caller hung up on me just as I was getting warmed up to the other major issues.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:55 PM
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12. I get frustrated like that sometimes myself.
When our the Democrats finally going to get it? What's it going to take? Why don't they listen to us? You people need to keep doing what you're doing. Flood your Representative's and State Legislator's offices with phone calls, faxes and emails. Keep screaming your head off about this until they hear you.
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