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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:27 PM Original message |
SHIT!!! Diebold to be certified in CA ... with yet-unstated conditions. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. is it overwith in America? |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The United States of America 1776-2000 R.I.P. |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kick-N Recommended..nt |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Recommended - IMPORTANT |
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datadiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. Holy Crap |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. You don't use the machines, but THEY use the machines when they scan |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. PP, question: does any of all this have to do with scanners, tabulators, |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
74. So Cali will not be using electronic voting machines then? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Chalk 35 electoral votes to BFEE already |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. CA actually had 55 in the 2004 election. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. McPherson's antiterrorism background...makes you think...he's planted |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. McPherson is definitely a plant. The anti-terrorism stuff looks to be from |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. UC Santa Cruz kids were under military intelligence surveillance |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Ugh. I remember reading about the spying on anti-recruitment protesters. |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. he's rethuglican - he don't need no steeeenking laws! |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. The state is already seriously discussing secession |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I am ready for that! |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Together with Oregon, Washington, we'd be unstoppable |
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SupplyConcerns (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. There was a novel about this scenario, "Ecotopia" |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Cascadia is much better |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. tell us more, please |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. a peaceful Constitutional secession for the world's 5th largest economy |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. ARe you serious about seccession being discussed? Maybe we can get |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. That's the idea |
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SupplyConcerns (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Sign me up |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. What do these people want? |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. I've asked the same question...do they reallly want to live in the kind of |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. McPherson Press Release Announcing Certification and Conditions |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. So, regardless of the Hursti hack test, use of interpretor code, |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. What is POS? |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. POS = Piece of Shit. |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. vote trust usa article link on this. |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. part of article here |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. DAMN! They're going to screw Busby and the 50th district in April! |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. When I see something so outrageous as this, I wonder: is it money? |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. it's Nazism |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. You should watch Bernstein and Woodward on Larry King tonight. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. The Empty Seat. Yes, that's the heart of the problem. The wolves have |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
43. I TOTALLY AGREE that a huge part of the issue is blackmail. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yes, I think ALL the Repubs are being blackmailed. For the NSA |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 01:51 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. What would it take for these people to disregard the blackmail effort? |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 01:57 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It's difficult - I'm betting the blackmail will include illegally gathered |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 02:19 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I'm thinking of some kind of amnesty. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-21-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
80. Reminds me of some dates that always stuck in my mind... |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Not only pollitical and financial support, but rigged voting to take them |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Where Plamegate and the NSA domestic spying converge...pre 9-11 |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. Or is it fear? The same bunch that took down SHelley is probably |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 03:54 AM Response to Reply #59 |
73. Yes, I think an added goad of FEAR is very likely. |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Exactly. I wonder if they would do a Shelley on Bowen? |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. We have all weekend to wake up people in California |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. California would be more difficult to steal... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Oh Yes, they will be able to steal Cunningham's old district in April! |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
22. Arrgghhh! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Please, in simple language even I can get -- |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. That it went down is not surprising. The WAY it's going down is. |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. The TSx DREs will have to have printers attached, but their failure rate |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Do those printers have certification at both the state and federal level? |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 12:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. See #39 |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Here. We got commentary from Bowen. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. Over my dead body! |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. Just sent an email to the gov |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Dear Peggy Day - don't let the Thuggery shame you. |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. What's an uber brat? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I can't go there. All I know is, I have NOTHING without my vote. |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Again I ask: What are we going to do? |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. GlennGreenwald has an excellent letter today on this. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. McPherson sucks |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. McPherson does indeed suck. n/t |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 01:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson, the new satan |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
61. We are all in the same boat. I'm in a paper ballot state but we still |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
49. Letters to the editors in all counties is a must! The only thing I can |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
51. Senator Bowen released this statement about the re-certification: |
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nicknameless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
52. Here's more from Bowen. The report McPherson based his decision on: |
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freedomfries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 09:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. k & r |
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jen4clark (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
68. 5 Phone Calls Tuesday to Save California!! |
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jen4clark (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Another Update from Senator Bowen |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Jen, I went to the site but couldn't see where to sign up for updates. |
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jen4clark (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. To sign up for updates |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Sign Debra Bowen's petition to McPherson to release all documents... |
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Blue Shark (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
77. Nothing sez the Dems... |
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