Kerry FILIBUSTER Tribute: Kerry Won 2004. Elec. Res.& Fraud News 1/30/06

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SPECIAL KERRY WON ELECTION…AND YOU KNOW HE DID!

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1. Truth is our most powerful weapon!

Peace.

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2. Scoop: Who Really Won in 2004-->KERRY

Scoop: Who Really Won in 2004-->KERRY
Start with an honest question…

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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00238.htm

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The Unanswered Question: Who Really Won In 2004?

Monday, 18 July 2005, 2:53 pm
Opinion: DU Elections Forum

By DU Poster Autorank
Based on TruthIsAll Analysis Posted at Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x383957|See also... this annotated thread. It’s all in the numbers>

According to the vote tabulators, in the 2004 presidential election George W. Bush won a stunning victory that defied all odds, particularly those applied by unbiased statisticians. He won despite trailing in most state and national polls. He won despite an approval rating of less than 50%, usually the death knell for an incumbent presidential candidate. He won despite trailing in the three National Exit Polls three timelines from 4pm to 12:22 am (13047 respondents) by a steady 48%-51%, miraculously winning the final exit poll (with only 613 additional respondents, totaling 13,660). This poll was “weighted” (altered) to meet the reported election result on the assumption that the reported result was accurate -- quite an assumption. The final poll showed a stunning reversal of the Kerry 51%-48% poll margin, which had been measured consistently all day by the same polling group: major news/networks and polling firm Edison-Mitofsky.

The analysis of exit polls and documented fraud in this election began on the Internet. A number of academics posted detailed work showing the near-impossible odds of Bush overcoming deficits in the state exit polls and the National Exit Polls. Much of this analysis comes from “TruthIsAll” (TIA), a poster on DemocraticUnderground.Com. TIA has a background and several degrees in applied mathematics. Using various elements of the national and state exit polls and other data sources, he produces results that are thorough, detailed, sober and compelling. He shows ALL data and calculations, while encouraging others to check his math. Only once did he make a minor math error, after asking DUers to check his calculation of probability that at least 16 states would deviate beyond their exit poll margin of error and go for Bush. The answer turned out to be one in 19 trillion! The debates on DemocraticUnderground’s “2004: Election Results and Discussion” forum are legendary and have attracted observers from all over the Net.

Before the election, TIA produced a daily update of his Election Model site. On 11/1/04, based on extensive statistical analysis, he projected a Kerry win of 51.63% to 48.38%, using a combined average of national polls, and of 51.80% to 48.2% using a Monte Carlo simulation of individual state polls. After the polls closed, data from the Edison Mitofsky NEP survey (sponsored by the major television networks and CNN) was unintentionally released over the Internet. This was internal network data, embargoed from public use, data with statements like “Estimates not for on-air use” and “This page cannot be displayed.” The networks had locked down this data for their own use in an “electronic cover-up” that was offensive to those who knew the story. Luckily for all of us, Jonathan Simon downloaded the exit poll data and saved the CNN screen shots! The Edison-Mitofsky (EM)-Corporate Media (CM) “embargoed data” was available for anyone with eyes to see it and a mind to review it.

TruthIsAll immediately began analyzing and publishing analyses on the forbidden data. Looking at the demographics on the second to last E-M major network poll, he laid out the set of improbable circumstances needed for Bush to win: “To believe Bush won the election, you must also believe….” This post was cited by Will Pitt in a major blog, which gave it wide visibility on the Net. “KERRY WON THE FEMALE VOTE BY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN BUSH WON THE MALE VOTE…AND MORE WOMEN (54%) VOTED THAN MEN (46%).” It was all right there, polling results that we were never intended to see. But this was only the beginning. There are over 100 individual analytical postings that demonstrate the tremendous odds against a Bush win. This high-level analysis dovetailed with and was confirmed by on-the-ground stories of voting rights violations all over the country, particularly in Ohio.

The key data sources for TIA’s analysis are the four EM National Exit Polls and the 50 state exit polls. For those who doubt the reliability of exit polling, there has been a trend toward accuracy within 0.4% since 1998. These Exit polls are endorsed heartily by international voting rights activists -- the Carter Center, for example -- and even the Bush administration, which used them, ironically, in the Ukraine elections to demonstrate fraud and call for a new election.

At 12:22 am on November 3, the national exit poll of 13,047 respondents showed Kerry to be the winner by 51% to 48%, matching TIA’s pre-election projection. The poll was “un-weighted,” meaning the EM and CM had yet to apply weighting “adjustments”: percentages and weights applied to all the demographic categories to match the poll results to the reported vote count! Imagine if this technique had been applied by exit pollsters in the first Ukrainian election to show victory for the incumbent, who had committed gross election fraud. Yet this odd technique of turning a poll into a ratification of the actual voting results was applied in the American election. The final exit poll, with 13,660 respondents, showed a stunning reversal of fortune for Bush. The poll results were “re-weighted” to create a Bush “victory margin.”

The odds against the deviations from the state and national exit polls to the final vote count are astronomical. In addition, there is the consistency of the “pristine” exit poll timeline from 4 pm (8349 respondents) to 7:30 pm (11,027) to 12:22 am (13,047).

In addition to the gender-based evidence cited above, TIA has shown that some weightings for the question “How did you vote in 2000” are mathematically impossible. For example, the final poll claims that 43% of all 2004 voters were former Bush 2000 voters. But 43% of 122.3 million, the number of votes in the 2004 presidential election, is 52.59 million, and Bush only got 50.46 million votes in 2000, approximately 1.75 million of them from voters who have since died. Therefore, Bush’s final poll exit poll numbers, WHICH WERE MATCHED TO THE VOTE, had to be off by 4 million votes.

The analysis also demonstrated that other voter statistics make it impossible for Bush to have won. Even if all Bush voters from 2000 showed up and voted for him, he still needed an additional 13 million votes. He didn’t get them from new voters and those who did not vote in 2000; those voters preferred Kerry by an almost 3-to-2 margin. Because of this, a Bush victory required that he must win a whopping 14% of Gore 2000 voters, all of whom had to return to vote in 2004. But Gore voters were angry; they came back to defeat Bush once again after having the election stolen from them.

Logical absurdities and inconsistencies in Election 2004 abound. The data, analysis, and narrative are available at (insert link) for open-minded individuals who want to form their own conclusions about “Stolen Election 2004.”

This work is just part of a comprehensive set of election fraud work and analysis provided by the dedicated voting rights activists in DemocraticUnderground.Com’s “2004: Election Results and Discussion” forum, a unique Net resource.

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55. Kerry Won: Analytic Threads for above article

TruthIsAll: DU The Essential Threads

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x383957

TruthIsAll: EXIT POLL ANALYSIS THREADS - 7/12/05 UPDATE

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=203&topic_id=411310&mesg_id=411312


The threads are also in the "Scoop" Independent Media Article. Just use the link at the top of the page.

[oldtime dfl_er]

3. You're making me cry

That's almost as painful as listening to Al Gore. Two brilliant leaders who got totally screwed.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/936290

[MelissaB]

10. Me, too!

Those pictures are beautiful! Thanks, auto!

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33. Kerry will make the Republicans Cry!!!!! n/t

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4. Kerry Won: Greg Palast

The guy who started such a ruckus…an American who publishes in England (The Guardian)…

Kerry Won.
Here are the Facts.

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=392&row=0

TomPaine.com
Friday, November 5, 2004
by Greg Palast

I know you don't want to hear it. You can't face one more hung chad. But I don't have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it's my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry.


Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. At 1:05 a.m. Wednesday morning, CNN's exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent. The exit polls were later combined with—and therefore contaminated by—the tabulated results, ultimately becoming a mirror of the apparent actual vote. Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.


So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know.

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5. Kerry Won: TruthIsAll & Michael Collins

…gets an honest answer.

Permission to reprint entirely granted by the author, which would be me, autorank

The 2004 Election Controversy will not stop. Statistical analysis of polls is now more accessible with free interactive Excel-based election models available on the Internet. Plus an interview with TruthIsAll

Kerry Won!!! Statistical Tools Everyone Can Use

Plus an interview with TruthIsAll
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0512/S00242.htm

Special for “Scoop” Independent Media
from Washington DC
Michael Collins
Dec. 21, 2005
USEFUL RELATED LINKS:
#The Law of Large Numbers & Central Limit Theorem: A Polling Simulation
#Excel Polling Simulation Model
# 2004 Election Model Projection; Exit Poll Collection; Excel Interactive Election Simulation; Other links.[br />
The Kerry concession speech on November 3, 2004 marked the beginning, not the end of the controversy over the 2004 election. Just hours before the speech, Vice Presidential Candidate John Edwards emerged and said that, “John Kerry and I made a promise to the American people that in this election every vote would count and every vote will be counted."

Democrats were in a state of shock. 2004 was a banner year for new registrations, party financial support, and activism. Reported new registrations favored Democrats all over the country. Democrats were well ahead of Republicans in new registrations in Ohio. South Florida, the “scene of the crime” in 2000, saw major Democratic efforts and a lackluster Republican response.

Democrats matched and exceeded Republicans in funds raised. For the first time, the internet proved to be a highly potent form of fund raising. The Democrats collected $10 million a month for the Kerry Campaign on the Internet alone. Other groups supporting the Democrats raised substantial funds. MoveOn.Org and New Democratic Network ran parallel campaign commercials and provided other support with the $25 million they raised during the election cycle.

Activism was at an all time high. People who had never worked in elections volunteered in large numbers and local Democratic parties throughout the country saw a surge in citizen participation.

While Kerry may have conceded the election at 2:14 p.m., Nov. 3, a large portion of the population failed to accept the final results. They knew something was wrong.
As one Virginia activist said, “This is simply not possible, the national results or here in Virginia.”

Captured truth—the four National Exit Polls

Just as Election Day 2004 was winding down, the server at Edison – Mitofsky (EM) crashed. EM was the firm conducting the National and State Exit Polls for a media consortium consisting of the four major networks, CNN, the Washington Post and other major media concerns. In an historical article, "Scoop" Independent Media outlined the process that allowed Jonathan Simon to capture elements of the National Exit Polls that were never intended for public consumption. Between 11 p.m. election night and 1:33 a.m. November 3, 2004, EM’s servers were out and so was a major portion of the truth.

Using the national and state exit polls as a basis, TruthIsAll began a detailed analysis of the exit polls that demonstrated again and again the extremely high odds that Bush could have won the popular or electoral vote without a 24 hour suspension of the laws of mathematics and statistics.

The Debate Begins

The Internet hosted the first series of debates on the disparity between exit poll results and the final vote count. The Exit Polls were of major interest. In 2004, his final exit poll, 12:25 am showed Kerry winning by 3% (with a 1% Margin of Error). Thirteen hours later, the media consortium and Mitofsky revised the final poll by adjusting poll results with actual election results. To no one’s surprise, that poll matched the Bush victory margin, a reversal of the day-long live polling of 13,047 respondents’ nationwide.

The capture of unintended polling results and the clear discrepancy between polls (which have a paper trail to this day), the recorded election day votes (many of which were without a paper trail), prompted vigorous challenges to the election results. For the first time in history, many claimed that the public opinion and exit polls proved the election results wrong, rather than the other way around.

TruthIsAll’s new tools for election analysis for the politically motivated but math challenged: the Interactive 2004 Election Simulation and Monte Carlo Polling Simulation.

TruthIsAll is the username of a prodigious internet poster who has focused on bringing applied mathematics to current events. But the raging debate on the relevance of the National and State Exit Polls and, to a lesser degree, the pre-election preference polls, has been his main focus.

TIA shows the details of his assumptions and calculations and encourages others to review them. Many of the debates relating to the analyses appeared on democraticunderground.com. The rhetorical flourish was intense, unlike more moderate academic debates, and the statistical concepts were difficult to grasp for many. This did not prevent an avid following of his work from developing. TIA is responsible for over 150 separate statistical analyses on the exit polls and other matters. His work has appeared in hundreds of Internet news sources and blogs over the past 13 months.

In response to the growing movement which questions the Bush legitimacy and the desire of more and more users to understand the basic mathematical formulae upon which the analysis is based, TIA just released a revised version of his Excel-based Election 2004 Interactive Election Simulation. The model allows users to do a variety of calculations which show how unlikely it is to think that Bush won. It contains a wide variety of data including pre-election polls, the National Exit Polls, the State Exit polls, and other critical datasets. Users can adjust demographic variables (2000 and new voter turnout, gender, party-id, etc.) which proved so critical in the 2004 election results.

The Monte Carlo Polling Simulation is based on 2004 state and national exit poll results and is included in the post
The Law of Large Numbers & Central Limit Theorem: A Polling Simulation

The post explains the basic mathematical and statistical concepts of polling in plain English, allowing a much broader audience to understand the earlier Interactive Election Model. These educational and analytic tools are now available to all who choose to use them on the internet at the links posted above.

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An Interview with TruthIsAll

When was your first post on the 2004 election controversy?

Nov. 4, 2004: On DU “To Believe Bush Won the Election….” Will Pitt referenced the full post in an article he wrote a few days later and it spread all over the Net.

How many main posts on DemocraticUnderground (DU) and ProgressiveIndependent (PI) and other forums have you written on the election?

About 150 original posts.

Why all this energy devoted to the 2004 election?

I was appalled when the election was stolen from Gore in 2000. I had posted daily projections of my Election Model on DU in the four months leading up to the election. The projections were based on state and national polls. The final national model had Kerry 51.6 % of the two-party vote; the state model 51.8 %. The state model included a Monte Carlo simulation with a Kerry expected total of 337 electoral votes.

The initial exit polls and the Iowa Election Markets showed that Kerry was a 3% winner. When Bush came from nowhere after 9 p.m. to win, I had this feeling of Déjà vu. So I decided to confirm the doubts using mathematical probability analysis, based on the
preliminary exit poll data downloaded by Jonathan Simon.

Your posts on DU are like no others. They are intense, complex, and require careful reading? What do you hope to accomplish with your new work.

My goal is to present the analysis in such a way as to inform both those who may have limited training in mathematics and those more knowledgeable. At the same time I want to negate the straw man arguments of those who attempt to obfuscate and misrepresent the accuracy of the pre-election and exit polls.

Where can you be reached for questions on this work and other dialog?

I’m posting on PI (primarily in the “Elections & Voting Rights” forum – which contains a collection of TIA's most recent posts.)

From your first posts on DU, you have attracted a large group of avid supporters? What is it that draws these users to your work?

It’s probably because they are frustrated like I am that the truth has been kept hidden by the media, politicians, Democratic bloggers and professional naysayers. They appreciate that the analysis is comprehensive and honestly arrived at.

In addition to supporters, there have been smaller cadres of users highly critical of your work. How do you explain that?

I firmly believe a few have a clear agenda to debunk the exit polls. But how do they explain the pre-election polls? Others are in denial. They can’t accept that their votes don’t count. Many are math-phobic and miss the essential analysis. Others feel the need to impress colleagues with their conservative credentials by knocking a spread-sheet blogger. Others just think I’m just an arrogant wise-ass.

Are the criticisms you receive helpful in revising your thinking or redirecting your analysis? Examples?

Yes. They inspire me to do additional analysis. As an example, the UCSV simulation which debunked the reluctant Bush responder (rBr) hypothesis was attacked by the usual suspects. I decided to take a different approach than USCV and developed an Exit Poll Response Optimization model based on the same E/M 1250 precinct response and WPE
data. The results confirmed the USCV analysis. Later, I did a similar analysis based on state exit poll data which also confirmed USCV.

Who and what are the major influences on your work, both in applied mathematics and political advocacy?

I almost failed elementary 9th grade algebra. One day as I was entering class, I saw my mother speaking to the teacher. From that day forward, I studied hard and got a perfect score on my 12th grade advanced algebra final. I went on to get bachelors and two masters degrees in applied math. As a career, I have focused on applying mathematics in the development of engineering, investment and financial models.

As far as political influence, my favorites: JFK, Hubert Humphrey, George
McGovern and Harry Truman, Adlai Stevenson, Edward R. Morrow, Bill Moyers.

Anything you’d like to say in closing?

I’ll keep posting as long as I have something to say. If my work has in some small measure helped to raise awareness, then it’s all been worth it.

Thank you for taking the time to talk with me.

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The miracle of timing that made the full set of national exit polls available to the world and the election fraud movement.

11/02/04

11:00 p.m. EM Server goes down. Exit Polls available on the Internet.

11/03/04

12:25 a.m. Final National Exit Poll captured by Jonathan Simon.
3047 Respondents: Kerry 51% - Bush 48%

1:33 a.m. Edison Mitofsky Servers come back online effectively ending
Internet access to the National Exit Polls.

2:30*a.m. Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards addresses the crowd and
and nation promising to “fight for every vote.” (time approximate)

1:25 p.m. National Exit Poll revised by EM to take final election results into
account 13,660 respondents: Kerry 48% - Bush 51%

2:14 p.m. Kerry concedes the election to Bush.

This remarkable sequence of events was not the beginning of the end but rather the end of the beginning. The remarkable intensity of research, analysis, and debate that energizes the modern day election fraud movement was born crying “foul!”

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6. Kerry Won: Freeman & Mittledorf

Of course he did!

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1970

Features > February 15, 2005

A Corrupted Election
Despite what you may have heard, the exit polls were right

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1970

By Steve Freeman and Josh Mitteldorf

Recall the Election Day exit polls that suggested John Kerry had won a convincing victory? The media readily dismissed those polls and little has been heard about them since.

Many Americans, however, were suspicious. Although President Bush prevailed by 3 million votes in the official, tallied vote count, exit polls had projected a margin of victory of 5 million votes for Kerry. This unexplained 8 million vote discrepancy between the election night exit polls and the official count should raise a Chinese May Day of red flags.

The U.S. voting system is more vulnerable to manipulation than most Americans realize. Technologies such as electronic voting machines provide no confirmation that votes are counted as cast, and highly partisan election officials have the power to suppress votes and otherwise distort the count.

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7. Kerry Won: TruthIsAll & Autorank (Why Kerry Won. Why it Matters)

TruthIsAll & Autorank

WHY KERRY WON AND WHY IT MATTERS. TruthIsAll & Autorank

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8. Kerry Won: TruthIsAll & Autorank (Bush LOST. RESIGN Now!)

Bush LOST. RESIGN Now.

New TruthIsAll

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9. Kerry Won Ohio: Bob Fitrakis

The master had it down…

How the Ohio election was rigged for Bush

http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/995

November 22, 2004

Following four community public hearings in Ohio about election irregularities and voter suppression – two in the capitol, Columbus, and one each in Cincinnati and Cleveland – a clear pattern and practice of voter disenfranchisement is emerging.

In order to understand the extent of the voter suppression in the inner city of Columbus and Franklin County, overwhelmingly Democratic wards, start with the phrase: “Machines Placed By Close Of Polls” on the last page of the county’s 17-page voting machine allocation report.

This phrase at the end of the spreadsheet may be the key in unraveling a deliberate and unprecedented plan to repress African American and poor central city voters. In statistics, when you see a bizarre definition or measurement, it sends up red flags. Why doesn’t the Franklin County Board of Elections have a number for “Machines Placed By Opening Of Polls”?

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To better understand what the BOE did on Election Day, consider the following analogy. The near east side of Columbus needs four buses to move the population to the downtown business district. Each bus will move 100 people. At the start of the business day at 6:30am, there are only two buses running and another one with a dead battery. After a few hours, the third bus is put into use. Finally, towards the close of the work day at 6pm, a fourth bus is deployed. The Central Ohio Transit Authority then reports it had four buses operating by the end of the business day. What matters is not how many buses, or voting machines were operating at the end of the day, but rather how many were there to service the people during the morning and noon rush hours.

[mod mom]

57. KICK for all the inner city low income voters who persevered in the cold

pouring rain on Nov 2 after being promised that this time their votes would count.

I canvassed low income neighborhoods on the near east side of Columbus Ohio prior to the election for the Kerry/Edwards campaign. The neighborhoods around Linden Library and Drivers Park are low income and predominately African American. Everyone I spoke with was eager to get out and vote for change. Groups of young people hanging out on street corners in rundown neighborhoods were not only registered to vote, but willing to discuss with the likes of me, a white middle class woman. I was welcomed in households and have very inspiring conversations with many individuals who were adversely effected by the previous four years. "This time" I told them, "would be different than 2000". "This time we will make sure every vote is counted".

When you see film footage of the long lines of mainly African American voters stretching out into the pouring rain, those are the individuals that I promised. Their machines were shipped out to suburban mega churches to suppress the high dem votes (their precincts went over 90% for Kerry). These voters have the least flexibility with their jobs, childcare and health situations, yet so many were determined to stick it out in that cold pouring rain. I am not a politician who uses polls to make decisions. I didn't worry that I would be called a sore loser or conspiracy theorist. I am simply a person who wanted a better world for my young children (as well as others) and feel I must keep my promise to the people I spoke with prior to the election. I closed my business of 17+ years to fight for the truth. They lied about the machine allocation and from there all the other evidence started coming out.

The GOP CHEATED!

The MEDIA IS COMPLICIT!

KERRY/EDWARDS WON IN 2004 JUST AS AL GORE WON IN 2000!

TRUTH IS ALL!

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62. OH 2004 Video--DU'ers made it (Dzika & Faye)--Get it around!!!!!

Just superb, it sums up all the powerful experssions of Democratic activists on this thread.

Thank you mod mod and all other Ohio activists, citizens who fought the awful machine there.


VIDEO: America's Illegitimate Election 2004

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/#020505

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11. Kerry Won Ohio: James Q. Jacobs

The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election:
Cuyahoga County Analysis

How Kerry Votes Were Switched to Bush Votes
James Q. Jacobs

http://www.jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html#conclusions

Preface

Questions have been raised about the fairness of the 2004 Presidential election in the United States of America (US). In 2000, the US post-election focus was on Florida, on fairness of punch card voting, and on vote count accuracy. In 2004, Ohio's failure to replace punch card voting with improved systems is just one of many issues raised with regard to the Ohio 2004 Presidential election. Other fairness, fraud, and irregularity issues include a variety of forms of voter suppression, vote-switching, cross-voting, paperless voting, provisional ballot counting, voter registration fraud, secrecy, electronic voting security, politization of process, and recount issues. In the following article I focus on one Presidential election issue, cross-voting—how votes cast one way are counted as a vote for a different candidate or option. I also focus on Ohio and a particular area with one-tenth of the Ohio vote, Cuyahoga County. On a separate page, I present a 2004 Ohio Presidential Election Results Summary.

CONTENTS:

Introduction

The Ohio Presidential Ballot Orders and their Combinations
Precinct Cross-Voting and Ballot Order

The Cuyahoga County Statistics:
Samples of Precinct Results as Evidence of Cross-Voting

Ballot Orders and the Number of Ballot Orders and Precincts per Location.

Analysis of the Cross-Voting and Vote-Switching Probabilities

Major Candidate Vote-Switching Probabilities

Degree of Metamorphosis in the Vote Count

The Cuyahoga County Statistics: Unimpeachable Evidence of Cross-Voting

Conclusions

Appendix A. Vocabulary

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12. Kerry Won Ohio: Mark Crispin Miller

http://www.harpers.org/WhatWentWrongInOhio.html

Kerry Won Ohio: Michael Keefer
Michael Keefer’s classic, book mark and read this. It’s great!

The Strange Death of American Democracy:
Endgame in Ohio

by Michael Keefer
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KEE501A.html

So who ever thought the 2004 U.S. presidential election had the remotest chance of being honest and democratic?

Not, one might guess, the electronic voting security experts like Ken Thompson, Roy Saltman, Rebecca Mercuri, Bruce Schneier, Doug Jones, Victoria Collier, Aviel Rubin, Lynn Landes, and Bev Harris, who have for years been warning that the new voting technology coming into use in the United States offers unprecedented opportunities for electoral fraud.<1>

Probably not Osama bin Laden, who made his much-anticipated Jack-in-the-Box video appearance three days before polling day: wearing a gold-lamé hospital gown in front of a blank shower curtain, and with a nose that looked to have been quite recently punched flat, he landed some anti-Bush shots that Rush Limbaugh and the other ring-tailed roarers of the American right were happy to interpret as a last-minute endorsement of John Kerry.<2>

And certainly not Republican Congressional Representative Peter King, who made an equally notable video statement on the afternoon of November 2nd, long before the polls closed, in the course of a White House function that seemed to have put him into a celebratory mood. "It's already over," he told the interviewer. "The election's over. We won." Asked how he knew at that early hour, King replied: "It's all over but the counting. And we'll take care of the counting."<3>

One of the people who took care of the counting--and who was responsible as well for some of the most decisive crookedness of the election, and the most flagrant illegalities of the post-election cover-up--is J. Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio's Republican Secretary of State.

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But Blackwell's talent--and his affliction--goes beyond irony or hypocrisy into a more permanent state of inversion that one might think of as resembling the punishment reported by the poet Dante for religiously inflected fraud.<6> In another speech in the same week of October--the context this time being his refusal to obey a federal court order requiring him to comply with the Help America Vote Act--Blackwell compared himself, in his willingness to endure the unlikely punishment of imprisonment, to Mohandas Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and the Apostle Paul. A spokesman for the Ohio Democratic Party's Voter Protection Program offered the appropriate rejoinder: "Many civil rights leaders went to jail to defend the right to vote. If this official wants to go to jail to thwart it, that would be unfortunate."<7>

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13. Kerry Won Ohio: Greg Palast

Yep, he did!

KERRY WON OHIO
JUST COUNT THE BALLOTS AT THE BACK OF THE BUS

http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Nov_04/131104_palast.html

Greg Palast | Nov 13 2004

This February, Ken Blackwell, Ohio's Secretary of State, told his State Senate President, "The possibility of a close election with punch cards as the state’s primary voting device invites a Florida-like calamity." Blackwell, co-chair of Bush-Cheney reelection campaign, wasn't warning his fellow Republican of disaster, but boasting of an opportunity to bring in Ohio for Team Bush no matter what the voters wanted. And most voters in Ohio wanted JFK, not GWB. But their choice won't count because their votes won't be counted.

The ballots that add up to a majority for John Kerry in Ohio -- and in New Mexico -- are locked up in two Republican hidey-holes: "spoiled" ballots and "provisional" ballots.

OHIO SPOILED ROTTEN
American democracy has a dark little secret. In a typical presidential election, two million ballots are simply chucked in the garbage, marked "spoiled" and not counted. A dive into the electoral dumpster reveals something special about these votes left to rot. In a careful county-by-county, precinct-by-precinct analysis of the Florida 2000 race, the US Civil Rights Commission discovered that 54% of the votes in the spoilage bin were cast by African-Americans. And Florida, Heaven help us, is typical. Nationwide, the number of Black votes "disappeared" into the spoiled pile is approximately one million. The other million in the no-count pit come mainly from Hispanic, Native-American and poor white precincts, a decidedly Democratic demographic.

[autorank]

14. Kerry Won New Mexico: Mark Crispin Miller

And look at the follow up, you’ll see how.

http://www.alternet.org/story/31217/

Election Theft Emergency

By Terrence McNally, AlterNet. Posted January 27, 2006.

TM: You say similar practices (and occasionally worse ones) were applied in several other key states -- Florida, Oregon, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and even New York?

MCM: In New Mexico, for example, we're told that Bush won by some 7,000 votes. We know of over 17,000 Democratic voters who were unable to cast a vote for president because the touch screen machines in their districts refused to record a vote for president.

These 17,000-plus New Mexicans turned out to vote in Democratic areas, and they didn't record a vote for president. Seventeen thousand is 10,000 more than 7,000. That glitch alone can account for the ostensible victory margin of Bush over Kerry in New Mexico. Greg Palast's new book will have a whole chapter on New Mexico. It's hair-raising stuff, and we haven't heard a word about it. The same kind of thing happened in Iowa, where Bush supposedly won by under 10,000 votes.

Tom Daschle was supposedly beaten in South Dakota by 4,500 votes. There was so much chicanery going on there, that it's easy to argue that John Thunes should not have won. I know Daschle believes he was robbed.

[autorank]

15. Kerry Won New Mexico: Scoop, Michael Collins

Here’s what electronic did to democracy and the citizens right to vote in New Mexico.

Permission to reprint any amount desired granted by the author, which would be me, autorank


Election Errors Threaten Future Voting Rights in New Mexico
Major Law Suit Under Way to Open Up “Secret” Workings of Voting Machines
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0511/S00067.htm

Special Report for “Scoop” Independent Media
First in a Series
By Michael Collins
Nov. 2, 2005

Patricia Rosas Lopategui et al… “wishes to have her vote properly counted and weighted in any forthcoming elections.”
New Mexico rarely generates much national news. When it does, as in the Wen Ho Lee nuclear espionage investigation, it can be explosive.

Now a little-known lawsuit before New Mexico District Court Judge Eugenio S. Mathis has the potential to alter the face of American elections.

Lopategui et al versus the State of New Mexico is preceding at a surprising pace, with the litigants currently in the “discovery” phase of the trial, the point at which lawyers are allowed to question key witnesses and dig for facts and opinions with wide latitude. The targets of discovery right now include Sequoia Elections, two of the big three voting machine companies; Rebecca Vigil-Giron, New Mexico Secretary of State; state and local election officials; and officials of the state’s voting systems support vendor.

Highly disturbing facts and allegations have already emerged in this well-run but under publicized case. For example, in one majority Hispanic precinct, the voting machines produced exactly zero votes for John Kerry. More issues will arise as the Plaintiffs’ legal team digs deeper into the highly irregular events of Election Day 2004. Remarkably, these events occurred at a much higher rate in predominantly Hispanic and Native American precincts.

Election Day Fiasco for Some

If you were a Hispanic American or Native American voting in New Mexico on November 2, 2004, you may have experienced some of the following:

The most likely problem was simply to find out that your vote for president or other offices was not counted. Ballots with missing votes are called “under votes.” In New Mexico there were around 23,000 under votes out of a total of about 750 thousand votes cast. That is a rate of 3.0% for the state, or six times the expected rate of under votes in a presidential election. In Hispanic and Native American precincts under votes range from 6% to as high as 49%. One poll worker described watching 141 voters come to the precinct, enter the polling booth where a voting machine awaited, stay for a short period, and leave. At the end of the day, there was only one vote counted for president. That’s a 99% plus rate of under votes for that precinct.

In another scenario, called election machine “vote switching,” one voter describes a scene that occurred throughout the state. The voter was choosing between Republican Heather Wilson and Democrat Richard Romero in the 1st Congressional District, near Albuquerque, NM. She recounts the frustrating story as follows:

I voted for Richard Romero. The check did not appear in the box. I tried three more times to vote for Richard Romero, making sure that I was not touching the screen in any other place. The vote never registered. The fourth time that I tried to vote for Richard Romero, a check appeared in the box by Heather Wilson's name.

[TayTay]

16. Thanks Auto!

This is very inspiring.

And we do have a lot of battles to fight, going forward. I hope this unity we have right now goes forward into all the other tough fights we have ahead.

Thanks!

[autorank]

17. Kerry Won New Mexico

Kerry Won New Mexico

New Mexico Election Problems

http://www.flcv.com/newmex.html


Touch screen machine switching of vote in the presidential and other races, machine glitches and malfunctions, Reports of widespread systematic dirty tricks,
misinformation and manipulation by election officials to reduce the vote of minority
Indians and Hispanics in heavily minority majority precincts. Student voting problems,
Phantom votes (more votes than voters) in some counties, registration problems,
absentee ballot problems, etc.

[autorank]

18. Kerry Won New Mexico: The Albequerque Journal

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102304D.shtml

Some Voters Say Machines Failed, Incorrect Choices Appear on Screens

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102304D.shtml
By Jim Ludwick
The Albuquerque Journal

Friday 22 October 2004
Kim Griffith voted on Thursday - over and over and over.

She's among the people in Bernalillo and Sandoval counties who say they have had trouble with early voting equipment. When they have tried to vote for a particular candidate, the touch-screen system has said they voted for somebody else.

It's a problem that can be fixed by the voters themselves- people can alter the selections on their ballots, up to the point when they indicate they are finished and officially cast the ballot.

For Griffith, it took a lot of altering.

[autorank]

19. Kerry Won Florida: Truth IsAll

TruthIsAll

Kerry Won Florida

That’s the fact!

TruthIsAll: FL Vote analysis: Using registration, machine type, NEP Party ID stats.

[stellanoir]

20. hey buddie

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2412492

and thanks to you and as ever to TIA

much love

[autorank]

21. Kerry Won Florida: TruthIsAll

What is the probability that Kerry would win 51.30%-47.77% in Florida counties(3.864 mm votes) which used touch screen computers, but lose by 42.27%-57.03% in counties where Optical scanners (3.429mm votes) were used?

[MelissaB]

22. Kerry won and Teresa knows it

...snip

COUNTING THE VOTES: Heinz Kerry is openly skeptical about results from November's election, particularly in sections of the country where optical scanners were used to record votes.

"Two brothers own 80 percent of the machines used in the United States," Heinz Kerry said. She identified both as "hard-right" Republicans. She argued that it is "very easy to hack into the mother machines."

"We in the United States are not a banana republic," added Heinz Kerry. She argued that Democrats should insist on "accountability and transparency" in how votes are tabulated.

"I fear for '06," she said. "I don't trust it the way it is right now."


More: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/Connelly/214744_joel07.html

[autorank]

23. Kerry Won Alaska: Alaska Comm. Dir., DNC (Support DNC Demands!)

This is a live, real-time situation. There are requests in and refusals made. The ball is in our court now. But why won’t Diebold turn over their files to the Democrats for inspection? Do they have something to hide?

Alaska: More Diebold Questions

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/12/alaska_diebold.php


The official vote results from the 2004 general election are riddled with mistakes and discrepancies, are impossible for the public to make sense of, and should be corrected as soon as possible, the Alaska Democratic Party says.
To most Alaskans, the election may seem like a long-done deal, something that concerns only political junkies, candidates and analysts. But questions have been swirling ever since the polls closed about how the results were tabulated and the reliability of the electronic voting machines, said Kay Brown, spokeswoman for the Democratic Party.
For instance, when district-by-district vote counts are totaled, President Bush received 292,267 votes, according to an analysis by the Democrats. But his official total was 190,889, a difference of more than 100,000 votes, according to the state Web site.
Everyone agrees you cannot figure out how many votes a statewide candidate got in a particular district with the present system.
"The numbers just do not add up, and we'd


The GEMS software and data files are publicly available and can be viewed online. http://www.equalccw.com/dieboldtestnotes.html

[autorank]

24. Kerry Won Alaska: Alaska Democratic Party (Support the Alaska Dem. Party

State rebuffs raw vote demand
STANDOFF: Democrats want 2004 base election data; machine firm is playing coy.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/7386582p-7298824c.html

By LISA DEMER
Anchorage Daily News

Published: January 24, 2006
Last Modified: January 24, 2006 at 02:26 AM

The state Division of Elections has refused to turn over its electronic voting files to the Democrats, arguing that the data format belongs to a private company and can't be made public.

The Alaska Democratic Party says the information is a public record essential for verifying the accuracy of the 2004 general election and must be provided.

The official vote results from the last general election are riddled with discrepancies and impossible for the public to make sense of, the Democrats said Monday. A detailed analysis of the underlying data could answer lingering questions about an election many thought was over more than a year ago, they say.

"Basically what they say is they want to give us a printout from the (electronic) file. They don't want to give us the file itself. It doesn't enable us to get to the bottom of what we need to know," said Kay Brown, spokeswoman for the party

[mom cat]

25. He sure did. We need at least one duly elected president to run

next time!

[bleever]

26. Kerry won the election: * knew it when he cast his vote.

The pictures of * and Pickles with those miserable expressions on their faces -- they were getting the same info we were at that hour, and knew it was over.

[autorank]

27. Kerry Won Alaska: Alaska Democrats

OK, there were more votes tabulated county by county than reported at the state level and the Republicans benefited in all instances. Now the Democratic Party of Alaska wants to see the Diebold audit trail and examine the machines. But noooo….the state and Diebold say, not happening. Why? Because Kerry won Alaska.
http://www.webcenter11.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=6B1760DB-46D9-47E1-A1AB-715A78F3FC17

State denies Democrats access to election records

01/23/06 “We must be able to verify the accuracy of our elections. It's fundamental to the whole process that people can have confidence in the election results... so refusal to let us have the file just means that the data that they're using for the past election as well as for future elections will not be subject to public review. This is wrong and we need to get this situation straightened out,” said Kay Brown, spokesperson for the Alaska Democratic Party.

Democrats say that in the 2004 election, many more people voted in House districts than actually live there.

Lisa Murkowski received almost 150,000 votes, and President Bush got almost 200,000, but if calculated district by district, Murkowski would have gotten an extra 80,000 with an additional 100,000 for President Bush.

[autorank]

28. ...KERRY WON 2004, Republicans, Get over it...and now for other news..

[autorank]

29. IL: State Board Nixes Hart InterCivic Machine Purchase by County

Well, how about that. Hart is not certified in IL and the purchase of the equipment was overturned by the state board of elections. They’ll use eSlate or Hart can go back. Who cares, they’re both “unavailable to the public” voting machines. Throw them all in the Lake, now that would be a positive “Lake Effect.

State balks at approving Kane voting equipment

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/top/2_1_AU28_ELECTION_S1.htm

By Steve Lord
Staff Writer

SPRINGFIELD — The Illinois State Board of Elections Friday declined to certify the electronic voting system Kane County was planning to use to replace punch card ballots.

Members of the State Board, after a discussion of more than an hour, declined to vote in favor of the eSlate system, manufactured by Hart InterCivic, of Austin, Texas, according to Steve Sturm, a board attorney.

However, the board also declined to vote down the system outright, agreeing instead to consider it one more time at a special Feb. 8 meeting.

"At that point, Hart gets another shot at convincing the board," Sturm said.

[autorank]

30. NC: More Requests by Counties for State Subsidies for Voting Machines

It’s called bait-and-switch. The Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA) was to get electronic voting in place so we’d never have another Florida (meaning the stolen election margins would be even bigger). Now the money isn’t there and the counties, who buy the equipment by HAVA requirements, are unable to purchase said equipment. This has happened in NY state and elsewhere. What a deal!

{h3]Extra state aid should cover bill for county’s
new voting gear
http://www.roxboro-courier.com/newsnowstories/ts012806-1.htm
- 1/28/06

Person County and other counties across North Carolina got some welcome news this week when the State Board of Elections announced measures to help ease the financial burden they face in being required to buy new elections equipment.
The state board on Thursday voted to make an additional $3 million available to counties at a flat rate of $30,000 per county. In addition, the state board agreed to pay for testing the equipment, an action that is expected to save counties statewide an estimated $2.4 million.
The need for most Tar Heel counties to get new voting machines became necessary late last year when the state elections board decertified most voting machines in use across North Carolina and directed counties to acquire from approved vendors new certified machines that comply with the new state and federal requirements, which include providing a paper trail of votes cast, as well as federal rules that, among other things, require provisions to accommodate voters with disabilities.

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31. NC: All New Electronic Voting Machines—Only ONE Vendor (SAIC)

You know SAIC, the DC beltway defense contractor, high tech plus private armies if you want, run by Ken Dahlberg, the Nixon guy who “helped out” the Watergate burglars in their “time of need.” (never indicted or convicted): SAIC is Republican dominated firm receiving great benefit from the * administration. Amazing, and all of NC will vote on their machines (SAIC owns ESS).

Nearly All N.C. Counties Buying Voting Machines of Only Vendor

http://www.wral.com/news/6461223/detail.html
POSTED: 9:01 am EST January 26, 2006
Raleigh, NC. The State Board of Elections decided Dec. 1 that nearly all of the existing county-owned voting equipment was obsolete under its new regulations. The counties were given until last Friday to choose new ones from a list of pre-approved machines.
First it appeared three vendors _ Election Systems & Software, Diebold Election Systems and Sequoia Voting Systems _ would meet those standards.
But Sequoia pulled out temporarily because some of its equipment had yet to meet federal rules. Then Diebold withdrew just before Christmas, worried about breaking the law by failing to give all the computer software information it believes the law requires from vendors.
That left Election Systems & Software as the only qualified vendor. Counties that wanted to continue using Sequoia or Diebold equipment scrambled to rethink earlier decisions.

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32. TX: Houston goes all Electronic Voting Machines

Republican prospects brighten!

Jan. 29, 2006, 7:30AM

Punches pulled in March primary
Area counties will all be using electronic ballots

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3620078.html


By RICHARD STEWART
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

GLETON - The March 7 primary marks the first time voters in every Houston-area county will use electronic voting — a change that was first spurred by the bungled presidential election in Florida in 2000.

Gone are punch cards and most paper ballots. Instead, most voters will use electronic computer screens to cast their votes.

Waller and Fort Bend counties used the new systems for the first time in November. Harris and Chambers counties have been using electronic voting since 2003.

[autorank]

34. PA: Rushing to meet deadline drives voting machine purchase.

How stupid can this be? We don’t need machines but counties have to hurry up, as do states, in order to meet a HAVA deadline.

New voting machines on horizon

BY CHRIS BIRK STAFF WRITER
01/28/2006

The push to bring Lackawanna County voters into the 21st century is coming down to the wire.

The county commissioners will likely sign a contract with a voting machine vendor in mid-February, with a full-on voter education blitz beginning soon after, said Cathy Ann Hardaway, director of voter education.

The county this summer sent requests for information to 11 machine vendors. Six survived the state’s certification process, but Mrs. Hardaway declined to name the county’s eventual choice, citing the still-unsigned contract. “We’re choosing from one that has already been state-certified,” said Mrs. Hardaway. “Things are moving.”

New electronic voting machines must be up and running by the May 16 primary election, or the county could lose more than $2 million in aid from the federal Help America Vote Act. The three-year-old federal law, an outgrowth of Florida’s voting problems during the 2000 general election, gives local governments a one-shot chance at funds to purchase new voting machines.

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35. Ohio: Democratic Party Goes after Blackwell—Political Choices.

Signs of life everywhere. Let's go for it.

Voting machines raise ire


Democrats say Blackwell selections strictly political

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/living/community/13734888.htm

By Lisa A. Abraham
Beacon Journal staff writer

Democrats in two counties are complaining that Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell appears to be talking out of both sides of his mouth in order to justify the preference of fellow Republicans when it comes to new voting machines.

In December, Blackwell broke a tie vote of the Summit County Board of Elections, picking optical-scan voting machines by Election Systems & Software as the county's new voting system.

In making the decision, Blackwell cited the lower cost of the optical-scan machines compared with the Diebold touch-screen voting machines favored by Democrats on the board of elections.

[AX10]

36. KERRY WON!

[mary195149]

51. Kerry will always come through for us!

[autorank]

53. Welcome to DU!!!!! Yes he will and this is his big week! n/t

[rox63]

37. Thanks for another great thread!

And thanks for everything you and TIA do for the election reform effort. K&R.

[autorank]

38. Thank you! Reality based analysis will prevail. KERRY WON!!!

He won Ohio, Florida, New Mexico, Alaska...and that's just for starters.

Oh, btw, HE WON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

...but somebody else won the "right" to take and tabulate the votes (DIEBOLD, SEQUOIA, ES&S -- did someone say Republican vendors, as in active Republican...

Who said, The people's votes don't matter, it's who counts the people's votes...maybe Wally O'Dell (late of Diebold;)

The Truth will Prevail

[kster]

39. John Kerry Interview - Ed Schultz, 12/21/05, concerning election issues

John Kerry
Interview - Ed Schultz, 12/21/05
Excerpt concerning election issues

"We brought a couple of lawsuits in Ohio, we were working there on the issue of what happened to our voters, with Mr. Blackwell and others, and the involvement of the machines. Well here we are now, with a Florida election official who has publicly refused to use those machines because they can be hacked, and the company for months and months and months was denying any possibility of hackability. Now you even have the New York Times in one of its editorials acknowledging that these machines indeed can be hacked, and obviously the Diebold company is in trouble for a lot of other reasons. So, this is something that really has to be followed up on. You can't leave the voting integrity of America and the rights of citizens to know what happened to their votes in proprietary hands. It's simply absurd to believe that could be the case. And so I believe there's not just the issue of survielance and not just the issue of accountability for violation of people's rights in terms of the organizations and their right to assemble, but also the fundamental right in our democracy to be able to have your vote count and be counted, is still at question, and we have to stay on that one."

AUDIO: http://www.thedemocraticdaily.com/122105SenatorKerry.mp3

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40. Kerry Won: ElectionArchive.org (USCountsVotes-Excellent Summary)

ElectionArchive.Org


http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Presidential-Election-2004.pdf

History of the Debate Surrounding the 2004 Election

“Pollster alters polls to be same as election results” (from a Kerry Win to Kerry Loss)

A complete document to take you through the 2004 “debate”—disinformation thrown up to alter what we know happened – KERRY WON!

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41. Kerry Won: Bob Koehler (The Silent Scream of Numbers)

The silent scream of numbers
The 2004 election was stolen — will someone please tell the media?

http://commonwonders.com/archives/col290.htm


By ROBERT C. KOEHLER
Tribune Media Services

As they slowly hack democracy to death, we’re as alone — we citizens — as we’ve ever been, protected only by the dust-covered clichés of the nation’s founding: “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

<snip?

The media are not on our side. The politicians are not on our side. It’s just us, connecting the dots, fitting the fragments together, crunching the numbers, wanting to know why there were so many irregularities in the last election and why these glitches and dirty tricks and wacko numbers had not just an anti-Kerry but a racist tinge. This is not about partisan politics. It’s more like: “Oh no, this can’t be true.”

I just got back from what was officially called the National Election Reform Conference, in Nashville, Tenn., an extraordinary pulling together of disparate voting-rights activists — 30 states were represented, 15 red and 15 blue — sponsored by a Nashville group called Gathering To Save Our Democracy. It had the feel of 1775: citizen patriots taking matters into their own hands to reclaim the republic. This was the level of its urgency.

Was the election of 2004 stolen? Thus is the question framed by those who don’t want to know the answer. Anyone who says yes is immediately a conspiracy nut, and the listener’s eyeballs roll. So let’s not ask that question.

Let’s simply ask why the lines were so long and the voting machines so few in Columbus and Cleveland and inner-city and college precincts across the country, especially in the swing states, causing an estimated one-third of the voters in these precincts to drop out of line without casting a ballot; why so many otherwise Democratic ballots, thousands and thousands in Ohio alone, but by no means only in Ohio, recorded no vote for president (as though people with no opinion on the presidential race waited in line for three or six or eight hours out of a fervor to have their say in the race for county commissioner); and why virtually every voter complaint about electronic voting machine malfunction indicated an unauthorized vote switch from Kerry to Bush

[understandinglife]

42. This is a great post!! Thank you. And, Thank you President Kerry.

And, Thank you President Gore.

Now, let us all gather together and clean up our house, the people's house -- The White House and the Congress.


Peace.

[ClayZ]

43. Kerry won!

:kick:

[Dunvegan]

44. That's President Kerry...and President Gore, too.

[nofurylike]

45. yes, Kerry won. thank you, autorank. eom

[knowbody0]

46. thanks for the smiles AND the tears

you lovely man

[Swamp Rat]

47. Kick for President Kerry!

:kick:

[FogerRox]

48. RECOMMEND for GREATEST PAGE jack this baby up

WOOT WOOT WOOT give ALITO THE BOOT

[autorank]

50. Kick for NOLA and SwampRat

President Kerry would have handled that superbly. He's steeping into his destiny tomorrow, don't you think? I do.

You're the best Brother SwampRat!!!

[Patsy Stone]

49. K&R... Because I know he did!

President Kerry: :loveya:

[foo_bar]

52. did he beat President Gore?

I'm trying to understand this alternate timeline, even if it's fictional. So the supreme court installed * in 2000, but then exit polls saved the day four years later?

Since this is ostensibly a news thread:

An exit poll by Khalil Shekaki, probably the most reputable Palestinian public opinion expert, showed that Fatah would win 63 seats of the 132 in the parliament, and Hamas would take 58.

Bir Zeit University, also experienced in such surveys, ran an exit poll that produced 58 seats for Fatah and 53 for Hamas.

When the official vote count was announced, Hamas had won a resounding 76 seats and Fatah only 43.
(...)
So the conclusion, an Israeli pollster said, is clear: "They lied."

http://www.cjp.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=173791

[helderheid]

54. He won - We lost - LET'S MAKE IT RIGHT

[freedomfries]

56. k & r

[chimpymustgo]

58. I'm crying. Kicking and recommending. President Kerry.

And VP JRE.

Okay back to the phones (busy signals!)

[Helga Scow Stern]

59. I saw him win on national TV and no one but no one

could ever tell me any different. I was watching very closely and I saw it with my own eyes.

And then I saw Dem leads "miraculously" switch across the board, and Kerry fell suddenly behind and a bunch of unelectable jerks were suddenly ahead, out from behind huge margins of defeat, idiots like Bunning and that crazy guy from Oklahoma who is known for his weird comments about lesbians.

I saw Peter Jennings angry and ashamed. I saw Rather in fear and disbelief. Everyone felt stupid and powerless, as people often do in the face of unbelievable abuse. Denial set in.

But the truth always comes out.

[autorank]

60. Extremely well said...

"Everyone felt stupid and powerless, as people often do in the face of unbelievable abuse."

[Usrename]

61. President Gore, President Kerry, and inmate Bush.

This is a great thread autorank, you have done it again. You are truly what is right about America. We can fix this. We will fix this. Thanks for another inspirational post.

[autorank]

64. Thanks usrename...I see your avatar and know we have to keep fighting: FL

And I thought of all Floridians on the net who fight so hard for election integrity, you being among them. Thank you! We'll win, no doubt about it. It's not if, but when (and what will be left, lord!).

[foo_bar]

66. America already has a surplus of faith-based institutions

It's nice to believe in the Tooth Fairy, or parallel dimensions where the electoral college doesn't exist (but Scalia does). But passing it off as truth (Truthiness?) is an offense to people capable of learning from mistakes, and the exact opposite of activism: it's a recipe for stasis, cargo cult behavior, believing everything's just hunky dory if it weren't for those meddlin' hundred million voters.

The elephant in the room is voter suppression, and exit polls don't even attempt to measure the phenomenon. What exit polls do measure is the intention of 1000s of non-disenfranchised voters, self-selected from a pool of >100 mill, but even huge samples aren't a magic wand (as the Palestinian election demonstrated). In fact, most if not all of this conspiracy meme can be traced to a fundamental ignorance of statistics:

It's simple probability and statistics 101.
(snip)
One can apply the Cum. Normal Distribution or Poission function (or both to confirm) to determine the probability of rare events occuring by chance only.. There are other models which may be applicable. I found these two perfect and easy to use. All you need is Excel; the functions are built-in.

I have also used this method to calculate the probability that
1- at least 15 JFK witnesses would meet unnatural deaths in the year following the assasination.
2- at least 16 world-class microbiologists would meet unnatural deaths in a 4 month period following 9/11.
3- The probability that at least a certain number of people would suffer from mad cows disease in a specific geographic area in a given year.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1777401#1777492

[Usrename]

70. Well, in FL 2000 it was a whole bunch of spoiled ballots too.

This is the same old stuff that was done before the Voter's Rights Act. It is why they made butterfly ballots illegal in the first place. Even if there were no problems at the polls, the evildoers can just double-punch a bunch of ballots for the opposing candidate. In one precicint (predominately black) in north FL I recall one of every five voters voted twice (two different candidates) for President. That reeks of fraud. Some 50,000 overvotes in FL 2000. Blame the dumb voters. Yeah, right.

Except for this particular phrase "As the NDI-Carter Center report pointed out, Hamas's tactics and goals - which include the destruction of Israel - are inconsistent with basic principles of democratic elections" I do understand the link about the recent election in Palestine. If there were any real election fraud there, it is my belief that the exit-polls would have shown it and the folks in D.C. would be screaming, or that there was fraud and they secretly wanted Hamas to do well. Who knows with these people?

[Joe Chi Minh]

63. Very resourceful, Auto, in the general sense and literally.

Sickening to remind ourselves, isn't it? Bt needs must, of course.

The enormity of the fraud, in particular, the demoniac, violent voter suppression of the African Americans in the US, historically, has always beggared the belief of non-Americans, but the 2000 and 2004 elections took it all to a new and completely surreal level.

That is basically the problem mankind has with its worst leaders, isn't it? They inhabit a surreal world, so don't recognise when their own actions jar with the reality familiar to the rest of us.

Keep up the good work, matey! A whole world is relying on you psephological young Turks, and your activist compatriots more generally.

[autorank]

65. Pebbles and the human voice, clearly articulated: the sound of democracy

Through the Civil War, the Virginia Colony and then the state , had "viva voce" voting. Voters assembled at a central location (after a long ride), had a "refreshment", and then "voiced" their vote and watched it tabulated. What a concept. Anything less violates the norms of common sense and the goals of a rational, humane, and spiritually driven society. I've noted that my state no longer allows we, the people, to ascertain that our votes were even received (touch screen machines) or tabulated properly (proprietary "vendor" software, no peeking!). It doesn't take great reasoning power (a fact I'm grateful for) to see that our voting system fails on all accounts. Soon, I may "voice" some more specific complaints regarding the disparity between the rights of the Founders and their countrymen and our rights today.

KCDMIII, you will appreciate these words form the Draft Virginia Constitution. They come close to the explicit contract the Republic of Venice mandated from it's rulers.

"All male persons of full age and sane mind having a freehold estate in of land in any town, or in <25> acres of land in the country, and all elected persons resident in the colony who shall have paid scot and lot to government the last shall have right to give their vote in the election of their respective representatives. And every person so qualified to elect shall be capable of being elected, provided he shall have given no bribe either directly or indirectly to any elector, and shall take an oath of fidelity to the state and of duty in his office, before he enters on the exercise thereof. During his continuance in the said office he shall hold no public pension nor post of profit, either himself, or by another for his use." Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/jeffcons.htm

Very best regards!!!

[Joe Chi Minh]

77. Great stuff, Auto, and the same to you! Very best.

[Peace Patriot]

67. Kerry won! Whoever you are, you know it in your heart. The American people

did NOT vote for torturing prisoners, nor for illegally invading another country and slaughtering tens of the thousands of innocent people, nor for the rich looting the federal treasury and unaccountable billions going to Bush/Cheney buddies, in a war that didn't have to be, nor for the Republican wingnuts to destroy Social Security, Medicare and other essential gov't programs, nor for undoing a hundred years of social progress, nor for anything else Bush is doing.

The numbers are OVERWHELMING--a consistent 60/40 anti-Bush majority on ALL major Bush policy, foreign and domestic, over a several year period before the election, and a consistent 60/40 anti-Bush majority all this year, with weak numbers all along, including numbers so weak leading up to the election that Zogby said Bush could not win.

You don't even have to look at the non-transparency and fraudulence of the election SYSTEM that Tom Delay and Bush's buds at Diebold and ES&S put into place with the $4 billion HAVA boondoggle for electronic voting: TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code. Virtually no audit/recount controls. No controls on lobbying or on partisanship by the voting machine companies. Or on felons writing the programs. Or on "revolving door" employment (election officials going to work for the voting machine companies, after purchasing these election theft machines for the state).

A total corruption of our election SYSTEM. An UNVERIFIABLE vote count.

And you don't even have to look at the OVERWHELMING numbers by election and exit poll analysts that show Kerry won.

And you don't even have to look at the war profiteering corporate news monopolies who, acting in concert through one pollster, late on election day 2004--after a phony one hour "crash" of the electronic reporting system--FALSIFIED their own exit poll numbers on everybody's TV screens, to force their exit polls (Kerry won) to "FIT" the numbers being fed to them by Diebold's and ES&S's secret vote tabulation formulas (Bush won). You don't have to know that they put DOCTORED numbers on the screen--to squelch protests and calls for investigation.

You don't have to know that they've been black-holing this all important news story ever since.

You don't have to know that Kerry beat their goddamned electronic fraud, and that's why they went to Plan B: Ohio--and stripped tens of thousands of black citizens and students of their voting rights, in broad daylight. Because their pre-programmed percentages in the Diebold and ES&S election theft machines had not been big enough to overcome his win.

You don't have to know any of this to know that the American people despise George Bush and Dick Cheney, and everything they stand for, and DID NOT VOTE FOR THEM. You know it in your hearts.

[mogster]

68. Amazing post, autorank

Thank you! :-)

[autorank]

71. Thanks mogster. No more BS from the dissemblers....none! Battle stations.

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[vanboggie]

69. Kerry won, Gore won

No doubt in my mind. Great post - thanks!

[MelissaB]

72. Kicking because this is one damn beautiful thread.

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[_dynamicdems]

73. The election was rigged and so is the media.

Our media is mindless blather and blatant propaganda.

Our Congress is full of crooks, liars and spinless sycophants.

Our President is in exile in his own country while a pretender sits in the Oval Office.


QUESTION: what do we do now?

[autorank]

74. Rigged elections + Rigged media = Alito

That's the ticket and you are SO right.

[Stevepol]

75. Kudos for this post: Alito et al. are really distractions from the ISSUE!

The only real issue is the voting machines.

It would have been nice to have filibustered, but YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE VOTES, and if you want the vots, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FAIR VOTE COUNTING.

If we had had Walter Mondale from MN and Strickland from CO and Cleland from GA (all defeated by the machines), what would the result have been?

If we'd had a fair vote count in 04 nation-wide, we would have had Kerry as prez. Then, what would the vote have been? Alito wouldn't have even been nominated.

Don't get distracted. All these other issues help because they are galvanizing more and more citizens and voters, but the only issue that finally matters is the voting machines.

There has to be a voter-verified paper ballot AND REQUIRED AUDITS FOR ALL ELECTIONS. And the paper must have the final say, not cyber space.

[autorank]

76. Correct....focus, focus, focus. Free, fair, transparent, robust elections

Extrememly well said and thanks!!!

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