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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:52 AM
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Check out Lucas County from this OH SOS site:
Home of the Noes, plagued with problems in 02 and 04, had problems early yesterday and now:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us:80/results/voterturnout.aspx

just got up-anyone know anything?

ps Dem stronghold-Toledo
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:02 AM
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1. He's trying to say that noone in Toledo voted on this?
Ohioans, grab your pitchforks! :mad:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:04 AM
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2. 0% reporting in Lucas and Montgomery county
Cuyahoga had a lame 35% turnout. Rural counties hit 50%.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:12 AM
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3. whole site is now down
Interesting first page


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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:18 AM
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4. Scene of the crime
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 07:19 AM by Greeby



If you overlay the Ohio map, you can see that the three counties showing no voters, are the same ones where most of the electoral fraud took place in 04
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:02 AM
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5. Vote totals here
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/results/CountyBreakdown.aspx?issuenum=2

but Blackwell outed himself yesterday.

1. National trend for democrats not reflected in vote in Ohio?
2. Solidly Democratic counties voting against Issues 2 - 5
(clean up the vote)?
3. Gov Taft has a 19% approval rating but the issues he opposed
lost and the issue 1 he supported won?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:01 AM
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6. Oops, this link is already taken down-surprise, surprise!
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 10:02 AM by mod mom
Did you have a chance to count county totals and see if Lucas + Montgomery were not counted in totals?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:22 AM
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8. Botany, you didn't happen to make a screen saver on this site, did you?
I posted the original thread early just before I had to leave for some testing. I didn't and I don't even know how to do it. Some Ohio election reformers are suspicious of Lucas and this info could be very helpful.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:32 PM
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7. People should have learned by now that someone needs to make mirrow
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 09:34 PM by philb
site for important sites and information

Lucas 2004
http://www.flcv.com/lucasoh.html

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:55 AM
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9. Ballot Security still an issue in Lucas County!
Article published Thursday, November 10, 2005

ELECTION 2005: BOARD OF ELECTIONS
State plans to investigate voting chaos; Tuesday's problems are latest 
for Lucas County


By CHRISTOPHER D. KIRKPATRICK
BLADE STAFF WRITER


With the final Lucas County vote count from Tuesday's election not 
released until 9 a.m. yesterday - the last among Ohio's 88 counties - 
state officials say they plan to investigate the county's board of 
elections.


Carlo LoParo, spokesman for the secretary of state's office, said the 
poor performance Tuesday was "frustrating" because of previous strides 
made, including a glitch-free Sept. 13 primary.

COMPLETE RESULTS
Results"It's an all too familiar process at the Lucas County Board of 
Elections. We'll begin by interviewing staff and reviewing their 
preparation plans," he said of the coming investigation.

The board of elections has been criticized by Ohio Secretary of State 
Kenneth Blackwell, who in April said all four board members should 
resign or he would fire them because of problems with the November, 
2004, presidential election.


snip-
Scene of chaos
But the scene at midnight was one of chaos on the third floor, with the special red and green bags holding memory cartridges and printed tapes of votes lining the hallways, piled on the floor in the elections office, and dumped in a large cart sitting unattended near the elevators.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051110/NEWS09/511100477

My Letter to the Editor:

The article by Blade Reporter Christopher Kirkpatrick, "State Plans to Investigate Voting Chaos" (Nov. 10, 2005) tells of problems that appear to be a disturbing recurrence for voters in Lucas County. Lucas County incurred such serious problems concerning the 2004 election that Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell's office was forced to release a scathing investigative report regarding facts surrounding the Lucas County Board of Election. This report contained seriously allegations of ballot security. One year later, Lucas County voters should have concerns as Mr. Kirkpatrick reports:

"But the scene at midnight was one of chaos on the third floor, with the special red and green bags holding memory cartridges and printed tapes of votes lining the hallways, piled on the floor in the elections office, and dumped in a large cart sitting unattended near the elevators."

The majority of Americans do not have access to high price lobbyists. Our vote is the only way to have a voice in our democracy. J. Kenneth Blackwell is responsible for voting in Ohio in his role as Ohio Secretary of State. It is his responsibility to see that the Board of Elections in Lucas County is fully prepared to implement an election. Mr Blackwell has failed the voters of Lucas County in two elections. Remind me again of just where the buck stops.

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