The Liberty DRE- the true ? story of Ireland

[FogerRox]

After over 3 hours of conversations with reps from NEDAP which sells the Liberty DRE, I feel compelled to tell the side of the story from the view point of the Liberty reps-

In the USA we have Wylie Labs-- they test hardware systems in Voting equipment for use in the USA- Between Wylie labs and the NASED we end up with 2002 VOluntary voting System, standards- or somesuch.

In Europe, a lab in Germany has the reputation as the premiere testing authority for computerized systems. NEDAP DREs were sent to the German lab for testing, which went well.

Then their was a turnover in the Irish Government, after an election-- they have a parliamentary system.

Now the new government wants more testing, so all the purchased DREs were put into storage, while the new government turned to look for a new testing lab. Which is strange, because the PRIOR government had gone to the premiere laboratory in Europe for testing.

SO what is the current government of Ireland doing? Looking for a non premiere testing lab?


The world is not Black & white--- its in many colors. NEDAP is not Diebold. And should not be painted with the same brush.

In NJ we just got the Liberty Certified-- SO our county has a choice--

The Sequoia Advantage or the Liberty. SO I have tryed to learn as much as I can about NEDAP and such.

[hedda_foil]

1. Go back and REALLY do your homework on the US certification system.

It would be laughable if it weren't so important. NASED certification means NOTHING.

Your choice between the Sequoia Advantage and the Liberty is between the terrible and the horrible. They both suck. Don't try to make Liberty out to be the superior or the two. They've got warehouses of these things to get rid of.

[FogerRox]

2. I think you have misconstrued my post and you seem to have tried to put

--------words in my mouth---



It would be laughable if it weren't so important. NASED certification means NOTHING.

--- I never said that or represented it as so------

Your choice between the Sequoia Advantage and the Liberty is between the terrible and the horrible. They both suck.

---- again I never represented Liberty as so- I stated the facts as I know them---

Don't try to make Liberty out to be the superior or the two.

---Come to Essex County NJ and tell that to the 100 or so folks that have worked so hard--There is a difference between the two- 1990 & 2002 certs.

They've got warehouses of these things to get rid of.

---quite frankly the homework comment doesnt float--I doubt there is much about the process I dont know about- and when it comes to Certification in NJ- I think I stand with the Attorney Generals staff on state statues and NJ Election law-- the point of my post is to describe the situation in Ireland, possibly in an accurate manner not yet described.


to put it not very diplomatically--- back off