In precincts that have both e-voting and machines that offer paper

[Melissa G]

verification, do we know if the tallies matched up the
>same, or if there were a difference on the two types of machines? I am doing some research on this issue...
Any Brilliant DUers already have the answer to this burning question before I go digging? Thank you very much in advance for your help!

[Bill Bored]

1. Not precincts but counties.

Land Shark's Snohomish is one.

And in IA, you had Story County, which is Op Scan, but Early voting results were the opposite of Election Day results. And I think they are going DRE for Election Day voting soon.

Also, in FL, I think Adolfo mentioned something about this.

Early voting has the potential to be a big vote rigging scam. If anyone knew in advance which way the wind was blowing, they could cause the outcomes to be reversed on Election Day. Even if this didn't totally reverse the outcome for the county, the E-Day reversal would narrow the margin and might provide a statewide victory, or just pad the popular vote in the case of an election for POTUS. This is what happened in Story, IA where Kerry led by 4,000 votes in Early Voting and finished ahead by only 2,700 if memory serves me. Maybe worse than that. In any case, the whole state of IA was decided by only 10,000 votes so a few thousand is a big deal.

Some attribute this to the Dems' successful Early Voting campaigns which apparently just fizzled on Election Day.

[Melissa G]

2. Thanks BB! i Knew a Brilliant DUer would show up

with some helpful info. This community is Sooo Wonderful!:loveya: :grouphug:

[Land Shark]

3. A primary motivation for the whole study was the side by side

paper and touch screen, precinct by precint, PLUS the fact that there was a hand recount on the paper ballot, correcting for any opscan or tabulator error. THus, a unique natural experiment we thought.

<www.votersunite.org/info/SnohomishElectionFraudInvestigation.pdf>

[Melissa G]

4. Land shark! You are so great!

Happy to be in Your Fan club!:loveya:

[Wilms]

5. Link Repair

http://www.votersunite.org/info/SnohomishElectionFraudInvestigation.pdf

[Melissa G]

6. Thanks Wilms! handy stuff that link repair! n/t

[Melissa G]

7. Thanks to Berniew1 we know about Nevada

"Nevada had touchscreens with paper trail; but I don't think anyone has attempted to count the paper versions; would be a big effort and take support; NEP showed Kerry winning Nevada but no recount even though they apparently have a paper trail.

But I think a lot of machines have internal memory storage; a form of paper trail; there was just no effort to secure the paper trails."

I think I remember the R's had control of the recount process there and perhaps that is why this was not pursued...do others remember more accurately?

[Land Shark]

8. nevada also has the 'advantage' of a case law that says

that nothing that can be used to question the counted 'ballot', raising the very real specter that the paper is useless there.

thanks Melissa G! : )

[Melissa G]

9. There's a R strategy, Give us a paper trail but make it useless

Thanks for the Heads Up on that one Landshark!

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[adolfo]

10. Not sure..

That is a good question Melissa. I’ll make a few calls and update our Florida map if there are any:

http://www.recountflorida.com/ufed/map.php

[Melissa G]

11. Thanks Adolpho! Appreciate the Florida update! n/t