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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:26 AM
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3 or 4 new states with touchscreen vote fraud reported
Colorado close Presidential election and lots of election problems reported

Touchscreen switching, dirty tricks, machine problems, long lines,
suppression of minority and student voters, absentee problems,etc.

http://www.flcv.com/colorado.html
http://www.flcv.com/coloradt.html
http://www.flcv.com/denvero.html
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:28 AM
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1. New Jersey: touchscreen fraud in several counties & lots of other problems
http://www.flcv.com/njersey.html

Essex County (over 200 EIRS reports of long lines, broken machines, polling place problems, vote fraud, malfeasance by poll workers, suppression of minorities, registration irregularities and lost registrations, many voters dont know to push red button to cast vote)
www.voteprotect.org (maps/New Jersey/Essex)

Hudson County (Touchscreen default to blank, Over 150 EIRS reports of long lines, broken machines, polling place problems, malfeasance by poll workers, purged minority voters, suppression of minorities, registration and absentee problems, manyvoters forget to push red button to cast vote)
www.voteprotect.org (maps/New Jersey/Huduson)

Middlesex County ( Touchscreen default to Republican, several thousand college students(Rutgers & Union& GW & U. of Delaware) registrations lost/not on books, systematic failure to deliver absentee ballots to college students, similar for students in other states, voter suppression, many voters dont push button to cast ballot) www.voteprotect.org (maps/New Jersey/Middlesex)


Sommerset County ( Intimidation of minority voters, voter suppression, suppression of student vote)

Burlington County ( Dirty tricks, voter intimidation, partisan poll workers, long lines, broken machines, absentee problems including students)

Passaic County (lots of broken machines, no backup paper ballots, people cant vote, registration and absentee irregularities, touchscreen default to Republican ,some dont press button to cast ballot)

Bergen County (Touchscreen default from Kerry to blank, machine problems, registration problems, student absentee problem, some dont know to press button to cast ballot)

Union County (Major problems for student voting, intimidation of minorities and malfeasance by poll workers, registration and absentee problems, disability access problems)

Camden County ( machine problems, long lines, polling place problems, some cant vote,
possible vote fraud, registration and absentee problems, misfeasance by poll workers regarding provisionals, misinformation, intimidation of older voters)
Mercer County (registration irregularities, absentee problems for students and military)

Monmouth County (polling place problems, voter intimidation reported, registration and absentee problems, college voter problems)

Morris County (Touchscreen default to blank screen)

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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:29 AM
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3. Note the major suppression of college student voting
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:31 AM
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5. I saw that from the first week after the election. It's a pattern
they duplicated. The kids are low hanging fruit. B@stards.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:06 AM
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9. Big lessons that public/Dems need to learn from these hotline reports
1. Touchscreens are unreliable and insecure, and using them reliably
is very hard to do. Very hard to insure reliablity and security.
Paper trail isn't enough. (www.votersunite.org )

2. Public needs to pay attention to the compilers and compiler software that determines how the votes are compiled. Its clear that
in 2004 the compilers were not even attempting to compile the votes as voted.

3. Huge numbers of votes were lost in many states by compiler defaults for straight Dem ticket votes, in which the presidential vote did not go to Kerry in many states. See previous URL.
You have to pay attention to the default settings. They make a huge difference in elections.

4. Partisan control of elections is a major problem. There was widespread discrimination, malfeasance, and fraud documented in most states, that swung many millions of votes. We didn't have a real democratic election this year. Those in charge often decided who would win in competitive races.

5. Many don't know how to use touchscreens. Most of the huge number of "undervotes" were due to the voter not knowing to punch the button when they finished voting and thus losing their vote. It appears partisan poll workers had a part in this.

6. There was a huge amount of deliberate misinformation given out by partisan poll workers and officials that caused huge numbers of misvotes and voting in the wrong precinct- which was the intended result.

7. There was a huge amount of partisan manipulation of registrations, voter purges, absentee ballots, provisional ballots,
punch card and optical scan ballots and ballot counting; etc.
that swung many millions of votes in this election.











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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:29 AM
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2. Oh, I LOVE this one.
045863
11/02/04, 3:44 PM PST
Machine problem
Calvary, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, Colorado
(1) Scanner not working, storing ballots until it's fixed. 6:30 notified, 9:20 fixed. (2) Approx 10:45 notified by election judge that their totals from both precincts were 50 more than Scantronic machine showed


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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:31 AM
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4. Kentucky: touchscreen switching and suppression of minorities
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:44 AM
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6. 14 states with touchscreen switching reported by EIRS hotline reports
States with most significant:
Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Pennsylvania

Other states with touchscreen swtiching and straight Dem ticket switching/default to " * " are
New Jersey, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Texas,
California, Washington, Indiana, Georgia, Colorado

Documented in following web page along with over 20 states with systematic dirty tricks, ballot manipulation, malfeasance, manipulation of registrations, absentees, provisionals, etc.

http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html


(I found additional case today in South Carolina)



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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:25 AM
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7. Shrub takes transparency to a whole new level, doesn't he?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:06 AM
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8. KICK
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:35 AM
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10. kick for truth!
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:37 PM
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11. Election reform lessons from the EIRS election hotline reports

1. Touchscreens are unreliable and insecure, and using them reliably
is very hard to do. Very hard to insure reliablity and security.
Paper trail isn't enough. (www.votersunite.org )

2. Public needs to pay attention to the compilers and compiler software that determines how the votes are compiled. Its clear that
in 2004 the compilers were not even attempting to compile the votes as voted.

3. Huge numbers of votes were lost in many states by compiler defaults for straight Dem ticket votes, in which the presidential vote did not go to Kerry in many states. See previous URL.
You have to pay attention to the default settings. They make a huge difference in elections.

4. Partisan control of elections is a major problem. There was widespread discrimination, malfeasance, and fraud documented in most states, that swung many millions of votes. We didn't have a real democratic election this year. Those in charge often decided who would win in competitive races.

5. Many don't know how to use touchscreens. Most of the huge number of "undervotes" were due to the voter not knowing to punch the button when they finished voting and thus losing their vote. It appears partisan poll workers had a part in this.

6. There was a huge amount of deliberate misinformation given out by partisan poll workers and officials that caused huge numbers of misvotes and voting in the wrong precinct- which was the intended result.

7. There was a huge amount of partisan manipulation of registrations, voter purges, absentee ballots, provisional ballots,
punch card and optical scan ballots and ballot counting; etc.
that swung many millions of votes in this election.


http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html
http://www.voteprotect.org maps/ state
http://www.votersunite.org messups, mythbreakers, states



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