Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

NC Elections Chief wants video cameras in polling booths

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:52 AM
Original message
NC Elections Chief wants video cameras in polling booths
This is why it is essential that the bill currently proposed in the NC State House HB238 for paper ballots be passed. (See www.ncvoter.net for action alert).

Bartlett's proposal was rejected by NC's committee studying e-voting, but he is trying to revive it.

IF NC's paper ballot bill does not pass, the NC Board of Elections scheme to install video cameras in the polling booths might prevail:

"Bartlett said that another proposal would place cameras inside the voting booths to help officials if they need to review a particular race.

When club members questioned whether that would violate the privacy of the balloting process, Bartlett explained that the camera would not be linked to the voting machine and that it would not record the voters' face, only the way the ballot was cast.

People who cast ballots early would have their ballots recorded in this way to allow election officials to more easily review those votes in a contested election, he said.

"If you vote absentee, you sort of give up some of those security rights," Bartlett said.
Published in News on February 16, 2005 02:12 PM

(http://www.newsargus.com/news/archives/2005/02/16/early_voting_will_gain_in_popularity_says_state_election_board_official/index.shtml)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:22 AM
Response to Original message
1. What an odd idea. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:29 AM
Response to Original message
2. What a moronic idea
Paper ballots are apparently not cheaper then buying and maintiaing thousand of cameras for polling sites. These 70 year old election judges are gonna love the extra work if this nutty idea passes. I'm sure reviewing thousands of hours of videotapes will go by just like that if a contested race came up. Yeah, right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:35 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. NC Election officials don't want paper even after Carteret County
Even after the Unilect machines lost over 4,000 votes in Carteret County NC, the NC Elections Chief still prefers paperless voting.

Our BOE Chief is on the Election Center board.
They keep citing Doug Lewis' debunked 2003 letter as documentation that paperless voting is safe and accurate.??!!

Our Commissioner of Agriculture office was decided by a game of "chicken".
The democrat withdrew from the race. We don't really know who won.

Some dumbies say that the real problem is that the Agriculture Commissioner should be appointed!

Totally misses the point that all of those voters were disenfranchised. Agh.

It is like saying the sky is green, and the grass if purple.

They say it, and the blind public believes it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sacxtra Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. Comment
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 02:29 AM by sacxtra
Sounds great to me. But needs some amendments.

GOD I HATE OUR LEADERS.. WHY DO THEY ACT LIKE CHILDREN?

As long as it is a camera pointed at the box that PAPER BALLOTS are being put into, and are to be MANUALLY COUNTED with ALL PARTIES PRESENT are dropped into.

Should be SPLIT SCREEN, EACH PARTY, CONTROLS EACH CHANNEL, AND LIVE BROADCAST on the EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM. (LIVE)

SCREW ABC, CBS, NBS, PBS, ETC. ETC. Their programming can WAIT!

BY making voting a holiday or holidays (Should be a week or more)

"we the people" can watch.

you hear me?



If an signal interruption occurs then it's the same as a log file anomaly.

E.G. RE-DO THE WHOLE ELECTION.

Otherwise electronics, digitized data, and the insecure networks are not a PROPER USE for elections in the United States Of America.


EAT THAT BAY-BEE!!



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:01 AM
Response to Original message
5. This is
--clearly designed to discourage absentee and early voting.

The video cameras need to be on the voting machines and tabulators when there are no voters around.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:56 AM
Response to Original message
6. Bartlett is nuts
But video taping all their meetings is a good idea.

Do I see an attack on early voting? Makes sense they would, the NC early voting patterns showed a serious statistical anamoly in the finished vote.

Glad to see that the bill has a requirement for a paper back-up. The DRE scammers must be scrambling trying to come up with a way around that.

It does appear OptiScan will become the favored e-system, eh?

Thanks for your efforts, WYVBC... keep us posted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:22 AM
Response to Original message
7. At first I thought this was big brotherish, but remembering the rethug
challengers, and those who attempted to suppres Af Am votes, I am beginning to think it might stop some of the rethug intimidation. Think about the police videos of brutality. Perhaps we should expose their dirty racist tricks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:24 AM
Response to Original message
8. Cameras are needed BEFORE and AFTER the polls open and close...
So we can see who goes in during the off hours to "service" the machines, or to see what's going on during bogus "lockdowns," or to identify technicians who are "replacing" batteries, or to see who is walking around (particularly out the door) with voter logs...

Oh, just forget it and switch to paper ballots. It's much easier!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 12:30 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC