Remember these threads? More votes than voters?

[New Earth]

Was this ever 'debunked'? I need to know ASAP b/c i want to throw the fact into the video we made.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x30091

also mentioned in Conyers report: http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/010605Y.shtml

[mattclearing]

1. I called the elections board, and they gave me an explanation.

They said basically that it was a totalling problem with the original web posting on pdf, and that the larger file of the canvass was correct.

I applied the same scrutiny to the canvass report she directed me to, and it seemed to be better.

Doesn't really mean anything without a recount, though.

On edit, I think I'm thinking of Cuyahoga County, not statewide.

[New Earth]

2. but there were other places

where were things like 124% voter turnout, which is impossible. remember that?

[mattclearing]

3. yeah, that was what I was checking out, if I recall correctly.

Like I said, it seemed fixed in the canvass report, but it's all totals on a sheet...doesn't mean a lot if you can't verify it.

[New Earth]

4. well if it's still been left questionable

i think it's good to include it. it is in Conyers report, so i think that's enough to back it up.

[mattclearing]

5. I agree.

If someone debunks it, at least it means they're paying attention.

[roseBudd]

7. Try Miami County Ohio n/t

[Zan_of_Texas]

12. Here ya go.

In southern Perry County, Ohio two precincts reported turnouts of 124.4 and 124.0 percent of the registered voters. These impossible turnouts were nonetheless officially certified as part of the final recount by Blackwell. --

Source: "Ten preliminary reasons why the Bush vote does not compute, and why Congress must investigate rather than certify the Electoral College" (Part One of Two), by Bob Fitrakis, Steve Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman, January 3, 2005, Free Press (Columbus, Ohio) <http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1065>

[New Earth]

13. awesome thank you

that is perfect!!!! just what i was looking for and i have a reference to quote too, from freepress. w00t! thanks

[KaliTracy]

6. Faye, at the Jackson Rally in Columbus on the 3rd of January

Over 100% results were mentioned for several Ohio Counties. Check out the Columbus FreePress http://www.freepress.org/index2.php -- (here is a link about the Rally http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1076 ) maybe they have information in their articles (look through those dated January perhaps -- or e-mail Fritrakis, I think he is the one who was using those numbers in his Speech.

[FogerRox]

8. WAnt it chaulked up to accounting partice an arcane one-

When most Accountants would have used a line item entry which =no confusion. the attempt to confuse is obfuscation as to the true nature of the truth.

In other words---THey friggin lied--- BIgtime

[KaliTracy]

9. they -- the BOEs? or others? n/t

[FogerRox]

10. have to be at the state level IIRC

[berniew1]

11. Where are you talking about; this occurred several places??

Phantom votes(vote stuffing/more votes than voters) has been documented in New Mexico, Ohio, and likely some other places. You can find documentation on the phantom votes in N. Mexico and Ohio
at www.votersunite.org

or by following threads for N. Mex. and Ohio in
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

[Zan_of_Texas]

14. Here ya go - New Mexico.

Presidential phantom votes were reported in 15 of the 33 {NM} counties and they appear down ticket as well. In one precinct in San Juan County 318 voters somehow managed to register 2,161 votes, 2,079 of them to incumbent county clerk Fran Hanhardt and just 82 for her opponent Glojean Todacheene.

Source:
Warren Stewart:
"What Are They Hiding in New Mexico?"
National Ballot Integrity Project
January 19, 2005
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0501/S00152.htm