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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:17 AM
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Did anyone here get an e-mail from Katrina Sumner asking for $?
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:17 AM by Carolab
I didn't but a friend did. In it, Katrina says the volunteers who minded the store in Greene County didn't get paid, yet, and they've been waiting since mid-December.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:35 AM
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1. Hence the word "volunteers ".
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:14 AM
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2. Yes I got it.
Oh, they were hired, not volunteers.

-Hoot
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:36 AM
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3. why would it be random people's responsibility to pay them?
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 11:38 AM by Faye
who was supposed to pay them?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:48 AM
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4. Beware of Rovian misinformation and plants
This sounds like one of them.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:51 PM
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26. i've come to the conclusion that you are right.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 07:52 PM by Faye
unless these people are starving with no food and/or no place to sleep at night, there is no need to go flipping out over a little bit of money. did these people do it for the money or b/c it was a patriotic thing to do?

no offense, I even met this girl in person in D.C. and I still do not trust her. It hurts to say it out loud or post it but it's how i felt and how i always felt.

It looks like someone trying to discredit Arnebeck for 'not paying people', when he HIMSELF is struggling to come up with the money to pay for a lawsuit now being brought against him and the other lawyers.

Whatever is going on, i'm not falling for it, and don't be surprised if some kind of rumor starts flying around trying to say Arnebeck is some kind of fraud, like what happened with Bev. (althought personally i DO believe Bev was deceptive, but i do NOT believe that Arnebeck is, not one bit.)
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:50 AM
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5. I have Katrina's email addy at home if you PM me with the addy...
I can tell you if it is the same one she gave me over the phone, back in Dec.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:07 PM
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6. I got the email
and kicked in a few bucks. She said that we were welcome to send the email around.

Hello fellow activists, friends, and associates,

I'm writing to you asking for your assistance. On December 10, 2004, I was asked by Cliff Arnebeck to find persons to hire in his name for watching the Board of Elections in Greene County and towards our efforts. The offer was to be given since the nature of the request asked for a round the clock initiative. While there were many volunteers that have assisted (and thanks to all of them) some were not able to at all hours needed (due to jobs or responsibilities). In any case these people were hired with a promise of payment. Since the middle of December they have been waiting. I have repeatedly told them things such as: tomorrow Cliff will be mailing checks, tomorrow Cliff said he would do a transfer, Cliff said it would have to be after this week because there is a hearing to work on; then it came to: Ok, I know you've heard it again and again, but Cliff says directly after the January 20th because of another hearing he had to work on, then after: it'll be tomorrow, it will be tomorrow, ok I promise tomorrow since he just told me that he was doing it after we hung up. Well the days have passed. I've heard the same stories. I know that many of you already sent to Cliff directly or on the freepress.org site to help out with this situation, but I must tell you that those funds were not received by these people who worked. Nor were any funds forwarded on to me to give to them.

I realize that there are others out there in my precise position and I emphasize with all those out there left with the numerous calls of "when will we get paid." Maybe this mail will seem to be an attack, but I can assure you that it is only an attempt once again to carry out ANOTHER's promise. Please help me with this effort. Any donations would be welcomed. We are looking at a figure around 2650 US. Below I will list the a good few of the people who helped with this situation and have been so very patient thus far in order of highest amount owed to lowest.

Brian Ekberg
Jackie Brown
Jamie Lindelle
Cassandra Smalley
John Samuels
Dan Harkman
Mary Doyle
John Michaels
Joy Joseph
Gary Day

You can either send via paypal by going to http://www.paypal.com , sending to hired4help@yahoo.com or send check or money orders to
Katrina Sumner
P.O. Box 31467
Dayton, Ohio 45437
C/O Hired4Help

Thanks and Bless,
Katrina Sumner
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:43 PM
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7. Looks fishy to me.
"2650 US"?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:50 PM
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8. that is bullshit
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 01:52 PM by Faye
that is personal business between her, the other people who worked and Cliff and NO ONE should be coming to everyday people trying to get money. WE didn't hire them, and it is not our fucking business what goes on. Nobody knows what really went on with all this, and we don't know why (if true) Cliff would be holding back on the money.

It's BULLSHIT, whether really from her or not.

sorry, dzika i know you are friends with her, and i met her in person, but this is utter bullshit.

I might as well start a paypal account so i can accept donations because I'm unemployed and poor.

It is NOT our responsibility to give this girl money.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:55 PM
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9. I agree, if she was hired by Arnebeck, Arnebeck has to pay her.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:57 PM
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10. i also think it is illegal
how can it be legal for one everyday person to solicit for donations from other everyday people? don't they have to be some kind of organization or at least some kind of legal non-profit kind of group?
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:11 PM
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13. No. Just won't be tax deductible. nt
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:12 PM
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14. oh well whatever
i am poor anyway, but i wouldn't give it to them if i had it. i think it's just rude. but then again i'm rude, so i guess it's all good.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:35 PM
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17. I'm with you on this one. nt
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:36 PM
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18. you think i'm rude too?
cool. :P
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:05 PM
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28. lol!!! nt
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:04 PM
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11. Something like that was kicking around December -- I thought it
was a hoax. Unless there is verbal confirmation from Katrina, I'd be very hesitant to send any money via pay pal or other means -- you don't go soliciting "payment" for volunteer services, generally speaking. If it's a hoax, she needs to know about it (as well as the others named), and if its not, she needs to know her legal rights.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:06 PM
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12. supposedly it wasn't 'volunteer'
they were 'hired' by Cliff Arnebeck and say they have not been paid.

True or not, it is NOT our reponsibility to give them money. That is just fucked up if you ask me.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:14 PM
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16. I was thinking it could be a hoax, but don't have any info. nt
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:14 PM
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15. Gadz!! I mean fer f*ck sakes!!! Its Bev all over again!! WTF!!!
Someone screwed up somewhere and they need to be thoroughly ripped for it!!!

How many more times is this shit gonna happen to us?

Please someone prove this is bullshit, please please please....
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:22 PM
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19. Smell your shoe
If it looks like bullshit, and it smells like bullshit...you may have just stepped in the middle of some.

I wouldn't give this story any credence. Even if it has its basis in some form of truth, it's totally inappropriate for her to solicit money in this manner.

Just my two cents.

Heading off to scrape my shoe....
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:43 PM
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20. It stinks to me...
It does not smell right. Why would Arnebeck be offering to pay these people, anyway? He was not involved in the recount. During the time that this was happening, Katrina never mentioned "hiring people" to watch the BOE bldg.

This looks like complete BS to try to discredit Arnebeck.

Katrina's cell phone # is easily available to confirm this.

*scrape shoe* *scrape shoe*
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:52 PM
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21. I am disappointed to report this.
I am a member of Yahoo Groups CASE Ohio, though seldom check in there.

Katrina did, indeed, post that message there yesterday.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:15 PM
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22. well in that case
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 07:17 PM by Faye
n/m i am really being a bitch tonite i need to STFU.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:25 PM
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23. I guess I need to STFU, too.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:26 PM
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24. yeah let's just STFU
that way we don't get in trouble :D :hi:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:36 PM
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25. Well, in your defense Faye
Folks are not supposed to post threads that solicit money without first obtaining Skinners or the other admin's approval.

Trouble with this sort of thing happened back in Nov & Dec.

She needs to go to Arnebeck.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:59 PM
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27. maybe we should go to Arnebeck if this is all true... ya know
what I mean?

It sounds like there is a communication breakdown somewhere that needs to be fixed with some expediancy... that or there is an operative somewhere within the context what she said.

I find this whole scenario perplexing.

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