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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:00 PM
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Bush – *you* are responsible for the Iraq War – not us.
I just cannot believe this. President Bush has validated his decision for the Iraq war by saying that the 2004 election picked him therefore his administration is not to be held accountable.

I, as a voting citizen do not accept President Bush’s attempt to pass the buck for the Iraq War to me or the American People.

As a matter of fact, President Bush lied to the American people about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction, which were the main reason for going to war. Therefore the American people voted for Bush under false pretenses.

Lying to Congress about Iraq having WMD is an impeachable offense. The continual propagation of the lies of Iraq’s WMD by this Bush administration constitutes a conspiracy of high-level governmental officials to wage an illegal war with Iraq.

It is time to flood our Congress with letters and emails demanding impeachment proceedings.

Ladies and gentlemen, we were a large part of getting Congress to contest the election. It is that time again to get our Congress to impeach Bush for lying about Iraq.

This is a call to action.

I realize that similar posts on this subject occurred yesterday - it is too important to let this drop. This is our chance to get the sonofbitch out of office - before he destroys us.


http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20050116/D87LF2180.html
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:11 PM
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1. He said in a WP interview the election was the accountability moment. nt
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 12:12 PM by smartvoter
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:21 PM
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3. 48 percent of the voting public did *not* vote
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 12:22 PM by SnoopDog
for this idiot. We are holding Bush accountable.

This is our chance to impeach this imbecile.

Bill Clinton can be impeached for sex in the Oval office - but not Bush for lying to Congress about WMD?

Come on people - this is it.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:37 PM
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28. Nixin said in 72 that re-election put Warergate behind him as it was
an accountability moment and the people had spoken.

:toast:

:-)
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:18 PM
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2. DELUSIONAL! n/t
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:21 PM
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4. In that case, less than 1/3 of the nation agreed.
You know, once you factor in all of the Kerry voters and THEN factor in all of the non-voters.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:24 PM
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5. Write to your congressmen...Demand an impeachment hearing.
What do we have to loose?
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ivorysteve Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:51 PM
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6. See also this site
http://www.impeachbush.org/

Read the articles of impeachment there.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:52 PM
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7. Thanks...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 12:59 PM
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8. if you voted for erry he let you off the hook
he merely said those that voted for him are the ones that are to blame. you know, my friends, my father, my brothers. they are responsible for the death adn destruction

not you and me, wink
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:38 PM
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19. But, by the same token, if we don't resist, we are equally guilty.
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 09:40 PM by Carolab
Did this moran even read the polls regarding the loss of support for his stinking war?

Maybe we should send him and all of Congress this:

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:05 PM
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21. Yes, Carolab, we have to resist. It is our moral obligation...
Never, never in our history has this United States of America ever been in such a immoral and unethical position. And it is because of a severely screwed up leader of our country.

I talked to an 84 year old dignified man and he basically said the same. Never has there been such an overwhelming thought that our country is going down the tubes.

We must resist and get a real leader to run our country.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:30 PM
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22. Not In Our Name
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 11:32 PM by Carolab
Not In Our Name

As George W. Bush is inaugurated for a second term, let it not be said that people in the United States silently acquiesced in the face of this shameful coronation of war, greed, and intolerance. He does not speak for us. He does not represent us. He does not act in our name.

No election, whether fair or fraudulent, can legitimize criminal wars on foreign countries, torture, the wholesale violation of human rights, and the end of science and reason.

In our name, the Bush government justifies the invasion and occupation of Iraq on false pretenses, raining down destruction, horror, and misery, bringing death to more than 100,000 Iraqis. It destroys entire cities for the sake of so-called democratic elections, while intimidating and disenfranchising thousands of voters
at home.

In our name, the Bush government holds in contempt international law and world opinion. It carries out torture and detentions without trial around the world and proposes new assaults on our rights of privacy, speech and assembly at home. It strips the rights of Arabs, Muslims and South Asians in the U.S., denies them legal counsel, stigmatizes and holds them without cause. Thousands have been deported.

As new trial balloons are floated about invasions of Syria, or Iran, or North Korea, about leaving the United Nations, about new "lifetime detention" policies, we say not in our name will we allow further crimes to be committed against nations or individuals deemed to stand in the way of the goal of unquestioned world supremacy.

Could we have imagined a few years ago that core principles such as the separation of church and state, due process, presumption of innocence, freedom of speech, and habeas corpus would be discarded so easily? Now, anyone can be declared an "enemy combatant" without meaningful redress or independent review by a President who is concentrating power in the executive branch. His choice for Attorney General is the legal architect of the torture that has been carried out in Guantanamo, Afghanistan, and Abu Ghraib.

The Bush government seeks to impose a narrow, intolerant, and political form of Christian fundamentalism as government policy. No longer on the margins of power, this extremist movement aims to strip women of their reproductive rights, to stoke hatred of gays and lesbians, and to drive a wedge between spiritual experience and scientific truth. We will not surrender to extremists our right to think. AIDS is not a punishment from God. Global warming is a real danger.Evolution happened. All people must be free to find meaning and sustenance in whatever form of religious or spiritual belief they choose. But religion can never be compulsory. These extremists may claim to make their own reality, but we will not allow them to make ours.

Millions of us worked, talked, marched, poll watched, contributed, voted, and did everything we could to defeat the Bush regime in the last election. This unprecedented effort brought forth new energy, organization, and commitment to struggle for justice. It would be a terrible mistake to let our failure to stop Bush in these ways lead to despair and inaction. On the contrary, this broad mobilization of people committed to a fairer, freer, more peaceful world must move forward. We cannot, we will not, wait until 2008. The fight against the second Bush regime has to start now.

The movement against the war in Vietnam never won a presidential election. But it blocked troop trains, closed induction centers, marched, spoke to people door to door -- and it helped to stop a war. The Civil Rights Movement never tied its star to a presidential candidate; it sat in, freedom rode, fought legal battles, filled jailhouses -- and changed the face of a nation.

We must change the political reality of this country by mobilizing the tens of millions who know in their heads and hearts that the Bush regime's "reality" is nothing but a nightmare for humanity. This will require creativity, mass actions and individual moments of courage. We must come together whenever we can, and we must act alone whenever we have to.

We draw inspiration from the soldiers who have refused to fight in this immoral war. We applaud the librarians who have refused to turn over lists of our reading, the high school students who have demanded to be taught evolution, those who brought to light torture by the U.S. military, and the massive protests that voiced international opposition to the war on Iraq. We affirm ordinary people undertaking extraordinary acts. We pledge to create community to back courageous acts of resistance. We stand with the people throughout the world who fight every day for the right to create their own future.

It is our responsibility to stop the Bush regime from carrying out this disastrous course. We believe history will judge us sharply should we fail to act decisively.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Over 4,000 people have now signed this statement. Among the initial signers are:

James Abourezk, former U.S. senator

Janet Abu-Lughod, professor emerita, New School

As`ad AbuKhalil, California State University,
Stanislaus

Michael Albert

Edward Asner

Michael Avery, president, National Lawyers Guild

Rosalyn Baxandall, chair, American Studies/Media and
Communications, State University of New York at Old
Westbury

Medea Benjamin, cofounder of Global Exchange and Code
Pink

Larry Bensky, Pacifica radio

Michael Berg

Jessica Blank and Erik Jensen

William Blum, author, US foreign policy

St. Clair Bourne

Judith Butler, author and professor, University of
California at Berkeley

Julia Butterfly, director, Circle of Life Foundation

Leslie Cagan, national coordinator, United for Peace
and Justice

Kathleen Chalfant, actor

Noam Chomsky, MIT

Ramsey Clark

Marilyn Clement, nat'l coordinator, Campaign for a
National Health Program NOW

Peter Coyote

Michael Eric Dyson

Daniel Ellsberg, former Defense and State Department
official

Eve Ensler

Lawrence Ferlinghetti

Carolyn Forche

Boo Froebel

Jorie Graham, Harvard University

Andre Gregory

Jessica Hagedorn, writer

Sam Hamill, Poets Against the War

Danny Hoch, playwright/actor

Marie Howe

Abdeen M. Jabara, past president, American-Arab
Anti-Discrimination Committee

Rickie Lee Jones

C. Clark Kissinger, Refuse & Resist!

Evelyn Fox Keller, Professor of History of Science, MIT

Hans Koning, writer

Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN magazine & Rabbi,
Beyt Tikkun Synagogue , SF

Phil Lesh, Grateful Dead

Staughton Lynd

Reynaldo F. Macias, chair, National Association for
Chicana & Chicano Studies

Dave Marsh

Maryknoll Sisters, Western Region

Jim McDermott, Member of Congress, State of Washington

Robin Morgan, author and activist

Jill Nelson, writer

Odetta

Rosalind Petchesky, Distinguished Professor of
Political Science, Hunter College & the Graduate Center
- CUNY

Jeremy Pikser, screenwriter (Bulworth)

James Stewart Polshek, architect

William Pope L

Francine Prose

Jerry Quickley, poet

Michael Ratner, president, Center for Constitutional
Rights

David Riker, filmmaker

Matthew Rothschild, editor, The Progressive magazine

Luc Sante

Tony Taccone

Naomi Wallace

C.K. Williams, poet, Princeton University

Saul Williams

Krzysztof Wodiczko, director, Center for Advanced
Visual Studies, MIT

David Zeiger, Displaced Films

Howard Zinn, historian


(for a more complete list of signers, go to the not in our name website)

* * *

Please note that the statement text above is a slightly
edited version of the text originally posted.

You may sign this statement on this web site at http://www.nion.us/READ_AND_SIGN.htm. You may also e-mail your name, how you would like to be identified and your state of residence to [email protected]. (Personal contact information will not be shared or utilized for any other purpose.)

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:56 AM
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:45 AM
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24. I'm too old.
But maybe YOU'LL get lucky and you can fight IN YOUR NAME!
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:01 PM
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9. I saw WH counsel spin to non-existence of WMD with the same old same old,
he made his rounds on the Sunday talk shows.
To me, this signals that in fact, Bush's "base" is starting to question, who else do they expect they can still feed this crap.
None of the hosts had the guts to say, "but why did we not wait for the UN inspections to complete?"
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:40 PM
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12. I hope you are correct about *'s base...
We are at a point where our entire society is headed in the wrong direction. This administration has waged an illegal war, has rolled back controls on pollution allowing our environment to become a pig sty, cut Pell grants and reducing our ability to educate our children, actually violated provisions of our Constitution, squandered our national treasury, no health care, and now is trying to destroy Social Security.

This lunatic is killing America - and are we all to busy to care?

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:51 PM
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16. The apathy in this country is apalling!
The same old shit...if it doesn't "touch" my life-it's not my concern!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:21 PM
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10. Kennedy brands it "Bush's Vietnam" on "Face The Nation"....
freep this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050116/pl_afp/usiraqkennedy

<snip>

"Kennedy then blasted Bush's claim in an interview in Sunday's Washington Post that his Iraq policy was endorsed by the US public because of his November 2004 re-election victory."

<snip>

"According to Kennedy, Iraq "is a disaster because it's the a result of blunder after blunder after blunder. And it is George Bush's Vietnam," he insisted."


Bush Owns It: Let's Purge It - NOW"




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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:31 PM
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11. I'll say it again...
They can try to impeach Clinton for sex in the oval office and nobody is screaming about Bush and Iraq?

Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and others emphatically stated that Iraq had WMD. They all lied. WMD was the basis for there war. NO WMD were found - yet they stated repeatedly that there were WMD in Iraq.

Thousands of Americans are dead or wounded. Thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women, and children are dead because of a war Bush made up. This is so barbaric it is unbelievable.

This nut case even has the nerve to say he would wage this war again knowing that there were no WMD.They have spent $200 billion of your tax dollars for no reason except to pad the pockets of contractors. Just what the hell is going on with our government? To wage a war just because?

We have lost our honor, ethics and dignity because of this madman.

Impeachment is warranted now, god damn it.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 01:48 PM
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13. And, I'll say it again -- organize "THE BUSH OPPOSITION"...
......specifically:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=275412#276436

As to methodology, you will note that what I recommend are actions entirely within the law.

While I respect several of those who have used various forms of non-violent civil disobedience (e.g., MLK) to bring attention to critical matters, all of the actions that I pursue (and have pursued in the past) have been within the law including, petitions for impeachment, supporting changing legislation, enacting Constitutional ammendments, and the like.

The severity of the crisis we now face will not, in my truly humble opinion, be resolved by anything that tilts toward violence or anarchy. In fact, that is just the excuse those whom we oppose are seeking to further suppress our Constitutional rights.

So, I support efforts to bring impeachment proceedings against Bush and Cheney and indictments against all members of Bush's administration and the US Congress who have lied to the American people about Iraq; conducted an illegal war in Iraq; lied to the American people about torture and condoned and supported torture; and participated in another fraudulent national election (for starters).

Peace.

"Bush Owns It: Let's Purge It -- Now"
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 02:07 PM
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14. I finally read your Bush Owns It: Let's Purge It
Excellent post.

So, I don't understand why we at DU are not massively writing our Congressmen/women demanding Iraq accountability. I am in process of writing to my immediate congressmen and then onto Conyers, Boxer, etc.

I just read now where this bush administration is now planning attacks on Iran. Just where the fuck does the madness stop.

It's up to us - we all need to get to work again.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/16/hersh.iran/index.html
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:29 PM
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15. Right, we need to stick together...
The insanity must stop now.

Time to fight like we've never fought before. It's impeachment time. I'm ready to raise some hell.

Lets get with our true leaders and get back to work for our country. One thing I love is getting people motivated. We can do it.
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:08 PM
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17. Yes indeed he lied.
He sure is an arrogant SOB in my opinion. The nerve!
(Grin, Chuckle, Chimp Face ...)

I have a bumper sticker on my truck that simply says: "BUSH LIED". I'm very surprised at the number of people that actually ask me what he lied about, even Democrats!

The bumper sticker will stay on my truck until his term is over, or until he is removed from office.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:29 PM
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18. What he is saying does not make sense
according to what they were spinning before the election.

The Bush campaign said that Bush and Kerrys policies were similar on the war, they also claimed that Kerry voted for the war. So if in there eyes both men were for the war. Even if Kerry won, the war would still be going on. So in there sick little minds would we the people have been responsible if Kerry won?

Why would even the people who voted for him by this garbage?

:shrug:
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:00 PM
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20. Yes, we must stick together....
This wonderful group of people called the DU was mostly responsible for the contesting of the election.

We have to fight - now - to impeach this SOB for his war crimes.

Yes Americans are apathetic. And yes, Kerry - Bush - it does not matter now. Our job is to stop this f*cking war. I am so humiliated and embarrassed to say I am an American knowing that the idiot we call president started a war - for why? I think it was just a personal vendetta. Is that how our country functions?

48 percent of Americans voted for this son-of-a-bitch. WTF? Bush is going to ruin our country and kill us all. So what - do you think I am exaggerating? Iraq... Iran next... Reduce all pollution controls. Stop educating our country. Our treasury is non-existent. Next - Social Security. What next?

All I am asking is to FIGHT. Talk - write - email - stand-up for the true morals of humankind.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:51 AM
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25. Then Bush voters are personally responsible for this disaster
By Shrub's "logic."
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rjbny62 Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:20 AM
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26. Isn't it time to focus on ending this War? Non-Violent Movement needed
* has opened his mouth and put a new untruth out there that people will believe if it isn't challenged by the masses of people who are not for this war. Isn't this the time to excercise the democratic right to take to the streets and stand up against this war. Yesterday this country honored the great MLK Jr, who stood up against unjustice in his time. What is going to happen in this generation? When are the non-violent protests going to fill the streets of our big cities. A peaceful movement starting with thousands can turn into millions and bring change. Millions took to the streets in Europe at the beginning of the Iraq war. It can happen here.

This spin about *'s Iraq policy being validated should be a rally cry. Stand up against it and show the world the truth!
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:41 AM
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27. We have a few citizen's tasks we need to work on...
Did you partake in the email/letter campaign to contest the election? You know what the people at DU can do...

This is what we need to do again. I see three critical fronts:

1. Impeach Bush for lying to Congress about Iraq's WMD.
2. Ending the illegal war in Iraq.
3. Stopping any changes to Social Security.


Write/call/email your immediate senators/representatives today. Then branch out to such patriots as Boxer, Conyers, Tubbs-Jones, Kennedy, Reid, etc.

Just do it.
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