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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:39 AM
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VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details
Mods -- I am cross-posting this in several forums. Please don't delete or lock.


It is imperative that we raise public awareness of the possibility (probability) of vote fraud in this election. DUers have accumulated, as always, compelling analysis, research and in some cases statistical evidence.

Now we need to take it on the road.

All you have to do is tell everyone you know -- and ask THEM to tell everyone they know.

Here is a terrific suggested email letter (thanks to crispini) and a good handful of links (I purposely broke them in half trying to override DU's truncation so you can copy and paste -- you may want to un-break them before emailing them).

I'll post the letter separately, and the links separately (since they're both a little lengthy). Feel free to adopt, modify, etc. as fits your needs. Or compose your own letter (please share).

But the really important thing is getting awareness raised -- FAST and furious, as only the internet can do (in the absence of a viable national press).
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:40 AM
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1. Letter
Vote Fraud? Email Media, Congress, and Your Personal Network.

Fellow Activists:

What happened on November 2, 2004? Did we in fact have a fair election?

There are many stories floating around the internet. A voting machine in Ohio gave Bush 4,000 extra votes. 11,238 more votes recorded in North Carolina than were actually cast. An electronic tally in Florida failed to record thousands of votes in a ballot initiative. The Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives, from Florida's 16th District, Jeff Fisher, says he "has evidence that the Florida election was hacked." (Link:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm ) And, the House Judiciary Committee wrote a letter on Friday to the GAO asking them to investigate. (Link:
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/gaoinvestvote2... )

And this is just the beginning.

Let me tell you about one particular story. A curious number-cruncher on the internet, Ida Briggs, did some evaluation on New Hampshire voter data. The numbers imply that "voters in small and rural precincts in New Hampshire are MORE LIBERAL than their "big city" counterparts which is contrary to anecdotal evidence and recognized nationwide trends. Coincidentally, the increase appears to occur in areas where "more sophisticated" means of vote counting are employed." Such as the Diebold Accuvote machine. (Link:
http://www.invisibleida.com/New_Hampshire.htm )

These numbers are outside the margin of error.

Now, this phenomenon could in fact be due to a mistake, and not to any deliberate fraud. These numbers might be right. We just don't know. We do know that in order to validate the count in New Hampshire, it's time to call for a manual recount. When your checkbook doesn't balance -- you re-check it, right?

But...why are we looking at New Hampshire? It went for Kerry, right? Yes... .but if there was a problem anywhere with vote tabulation software, the same problem would probably appear other places with the same vote tabulation software. Furthermore, New Hampshire votes on paper ballots (then fed into optical scanners), and therefore the vote can be recounted. Also, New Hampshire has one of the earliest deadlines for contesting an election, and it is (comparatively) easier to get a recount there. Also, if there are provable issues in New Hampshire, this opens the door for other states. Finally, what does it matter if the state went for Kerry? If there are systemic problems, don't you want to know about them? Don't you want to have an accurate and fair vote, regardless of the outcome?

The request for a recount has already been filed with the New Hampshire Secretary of State by Ralph Nader. The Green Party candidate David Cobb has called for an investigation. Badnarik might be thinking about challenging in Ohio.

You might be wondering...where's the Kerry campaign? Where are all those lawyers? Well, we don't know. They might be doing something and not telling us, and then again, they might not. Certainly any Kerry attempt to contest the vote would have created a media circus which would have branded him a "Sore Loserman" a la 2000. Just bear in mind: A concession speech is not legally binding, and it's not over til the Electoral College says it is.

So, what are we asking YOU to do?

1. Send this to EVERYONE in your address book
2. Write the media.
3. Write your congressperson.
4. Donate to the recount effort.
5. Stay tuned
6. See the list of links to many other discussions at the bottom of this email.

1. Send this to EVERYONE in your address book
We need to raise awareness of this issue. Our national media has for the most part simply accepted wildly divergent exit polls versus "actual" results and is underreporting problems that occurred all over the country. We have to use the power of the internet to inform people about this vital issue.

2. Write the Media
We need as many people as possible to write the media. The more folks they hear from, the less likely they are to discount it as tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory.

There is a comprehensive list of media contact information
at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Send email --There is a complete list of email addresses suitable for cutting and pasting if you scroll down to the bottom.

Also, pleaseconsider writing snail mail! Regular mail is given much more weight than email.

3. Write your Congressperson
www.senate.gov
http://www.house.gov/writerep /

Sample Letter for #1 and/or #2: Please Customize Yourself!.

Dear Sir or Madam,

Ralph Nader has asked for a recount of votes in New Hampshire to investigate problems with the vote. In this state, there was a statistically significant difference between counties that used different types of voting machines.
http://www.invisibleida.com/New_Hampshire.htm
Furthermore, the House Judiciary Committee has asked the GAO to investigate numerous problems with the election process, and provides details:
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/gaoinvestvote2...

Over the last few days I have read many stories about incidents involving electronic voting, and have reviewed several different statistical analyses. Many of these can be found at Democratic Underground:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss /
(See "President Results" and "Report Voting Problems" forums)

Although I donot wish to believe this, I am having serious doubts about the integrity of this election. Please investigate these allegations.

4. Donate to the Recount Effort
Ralph Nader is requesting the New Hampshire recount. To donate to his campaign fund, visit http://www.votenader.org /
We hope to have a website set up in the next few days to accept donations specifically for the recount effort if you don't wish to make a general Nader donation.

5. Stay Tuned
Visit Democratic Underground at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss /
(See forums "Presidential Results" and "Report Voting Problems")

Keep an eye on breaking news -- this story is moving fast --we need people to write, phone, and do all sorts of cyber-activism. We especially need you if you are a number-cruncher!

6. LINKS:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:41 AM
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2. LINKS
(Don't forget to remove the line breaks before emailing -- and there are more new discussions all the time, you might want to add or substitute some of those)


NATIONAL or MULTI-STATE
George Bush's 8 Million New Votes Found A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=19390&mesg_id=19390duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=19390&mesg_id=19390

Kerry Margins: Paper-ballot and Non-paper ballot states... (by TrutIsAll)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2612492

Calling all DUers - My husband is a Ph.D. statistician and
(see esp. post #17)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=26421#
DU Home Page (w/Graphs mentioned in opening post of thread): http://www.democraticunderground.com /

The Exit Polls vs. the Actuals: Who do you believe-CNN or your lying eyes?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2617461

Exit polls analysis versus reported vote count (by Faun Otter)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=11874&mesg_id=11874

In this thread we post all the evidence of vote fraud.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1333866

New tabulation of voting methods, vendors by population in state.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2617492

Still don't believe they stole it? Look here (by tkmorris)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1333746
table link: http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

Have Hard Vote Fraud Evidence!? - RESPOND HERE PLZ
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

The Exit Polls vs. the Actuals: Who do you believe-CNN or your lying eyes?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2617461

Voter fraud claims are bull
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2621252

The stage is set to ban "Exit Polls" in the future. So there will be no way to ID suspicious results. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2625382

Did ANY votes accidentally go to Kerry?
(none that anyone can find)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x26471

Just for Sh*ts and Grins, Has anyone checked BBV consistency?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27821

A single hacker could have fixed the election.
(slashdot link, where computer programmers hang out)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1636

Voter News Service (VNS)
The news networks don't just report election news, they create it. But do they also conspire to control election results?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1333866&mesg_id=1334804&page=

'Rat a l'Orange' -- Documents indicate voting machine certification fraud (Bev Harris)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2626567

SAME COUNTIES FRAUD 2000/2004 (from Bev Harris's book)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2625077

The statisticians who designed the exit polls
Do they accept that their results were off-base?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27547

House Judiciary Committee letter to GAO regarding voting machines
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2609760


FLORIDA
Take a look at these interesting numbers...... (FL)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2623514


**WEIRD FL NUMBERS - BRAND NEW**
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x23860#24284
Link to file: http://www.rubberbug.com/temp/FloridaDifferences.htm

27 Florida Counties with superior Democratic Registration vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2624415

New statistics on Florida fraud - please share (Faun Otter)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27702

Here we Go, Florida Democrat (Candidate) Goes to the FBI
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
HOT!! Florida U.S. House Rep. says he has evidence of hacked voting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27340

Graph of Florida by County by Voting Machine - Change from 2000 to 2004
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2615219&mesg_id=2615219

Florida Numbers on Op-Scan machines shows HUGE %Drop in Dem turnout??????
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x25657

OUCH !! Broward machines count backward - 2002 again
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1518

Denial, Anger, Action
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2619207&mesg_id=2619207

According to Florida voter data this election was stolen. PERIOD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1274

Hillsborough County FLA - oddities + undervotes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1214


OHIO
ES&S "Former Employee" accessed rural OH BOE Computer in Oct.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27251


COLLECTIONS OF LINKS
A Whole Forum of Various Voting Problems:
Report Voting Problems
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss
/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=201

Evidence of Election fraud (links)
http://shadowbox.i8.com/stolen.htm

List of links to election articles
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules
/news/article.php?storyid=980

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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:54 PM
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14. Link ... Interesting Information:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:42 AM
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3. Excellent post- let's keep it kicked all day!
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:56 AM
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4. Good idea!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:05 PM
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5. Thanks for all your work and
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 12:06 PM by zidzi
compilation on this critically urgent Crisis for our Country! :kick:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:55 PM
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6. Kick and read
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:06 PM
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7. FANTASTIC! I'll add this to my Evoting Fraud" Resource Center
I've been looking for this! I've been too busy building the Evoting Fraud" Resource Center to track all of this.

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm

DU post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:23 PM
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8. Lets Go DUers!!!!!
THANK YOU ALL!

I am doing my best to get this news out to everybody I know an d the media!
We can make them take notice if our voice is loud enough! :kick:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:06 PM
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11. Oh, that's YOUR site -- cool
Thanks for adding it.
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:42 PM
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13. There's enough here to add a DU page. Others, please send me suggestions.
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 02:43 PM by tommcintyre
I'm not getting here 'nuff to keep up completely - since I'm working on this about 18 hours a day.

Thanks

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:24 PM
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9. nothing to see here move along
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000...

Palm Beach County has updated their numbers and added 91,802 absentee ballots and 1,041 provisional ballots. The vote totals for president increased by 1,543. To view an archived copy of the previous report, click here. While Palm Beach County appears to have accounted for the discrepancy, this underscores the flaws in the system and data compilation.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:44 PM
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10. Great compilation of information and facts!
kick
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:13 PM
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12. LOBBY MOVEON TO BUY NATIONAL ADS

WILL MOVEON MOVE ON THIS IF THE SCIENCE/STATiSTICAL ANALYSIs IS THERE???

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 02:58 PM
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15. Good compilation of info here
-----------------------------------------------------------
Support Cobb, Nader, and Badnarik in pursuing recounts!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform...
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:02 PM
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16. Kick
:kick:
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 04:09 PM
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17. Bless you, Eloriel.
And blessings upon everyone else who has crunched numbers, contacted people, and gathered information. We just might save democracy yet.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:14 PM
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18. I was asked to post this, as a sample letter
(fyi-This was written to the Kerry campaign)

mods. this is also cross-posted, by request of the DUer that started this thread

We need to have recounts of optical scanned ballots in Ohio and Florida, as well as recounts in any other precinct in swing states where exit polls did not match the results and suspicions have been raised by statisticians who, on their own free time, have analyzed the vote and found likely irregularities.

Lets face it: exit polling is so accurate its been used as a tool to monitor third world nations. It's been spot-on in every American election in every state but twice: in Florida in 2000, where we now know that Gore really did win, and now in a few contested states in 2004. What's more, as someone with formal training in physics, I know that error should be scattered on both sides of the mean -- but every "erroneous" national election exit poll that America has ever seen has always, always fallen on the side of "overestimating" the support of opponents of George W. Bush.

Bluntly: this stinks to high heaven.

John Kerry promised me, as a Kerry donor, volunteer, voter, and citizen, that he would make sure that every vote would be properly counted in this election. I'm calling upon you to deliver on your promise to me and to the tens of millions of us who gave of what we could spare from our paychecks and pension checks and allowances, who stood in lines, in the cold and the rain, of up to 10 hours to cast our votes for John Kerry.

Anything less would mean that, sadly, we had a commander who cut and ran and left his troops alone in battle.

And it would mean that democracy in America had failed -- utterly failed -- and could no longer be relied upon to prevent extremism from keeping its grasp on the reins of power indefinitely. What does that mean? Did you hear of the angry mob that rushed the statehouse in Ohio after the election? Or the mob that tried to burn down a Republican headquarters in NC? Did you know that Canada has had a record number of requests for immigration information? Did you know that PTA moms were passing out black armbands at their meetings, that citizens in many states are seriously talking secession, that I even heard a respected county prosecutor talk quite seriously of revolution.

THIS IS WHAT THE FAILURE OF DEMOCRACY MEANS. And from the look in the eyes of the people in the street, I can tell you it will only get worse.

Please, please: we *must* have honest hand recounts everywhere where
suspicions have been raised.

Sincerely
XXXXXXXXXX

----

It was also pointed out to me that I should also have mentioned an audit of the machines.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:48 PM
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19. More Links
if you want to add any of these (or substitute any of them)

FLORIDA
Florida and optical scan counties.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

In Duval Co. Fl 219,251 votes for Bush, only 190,111 registered Republican
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I think FL op-scan tabulators were hacked - not touch-screens (GRAPHS)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Historic vote count is over (Florida)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


OTHER
I hear that on a local level Dems did well on November 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Sarpy County Nebraska
(thousands of votes added)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Secretary of State (Arkansas) Pleads guilty to taking bribes in computer voting case
(2002 article - "immunity from prosecution witness" also involved is now top ES&S official)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


OHIO
ES&S "Former Employee" accessed rural OH BOE Computer in Oct.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

AP: Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes (11,000+ extra votes)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


NEW MEXICO
ABQ Journal: 18,000 Provisional Votes Await Count in N.M.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


NEVADA
Could this be how Bushass took the 2 percent in Nevada??
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


NORTH CAROLINA
NC Voter Glitch "ES&S Sytems 11,283 "extra" votes for president!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

BBV: Guilford County NC Gives bush 22,000 Votes!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


NATIONAL or MULTIPLE STATES
More and more news stories coming out on voting machine problems
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I've compiled evidence of possible EVoting fraud
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Sorting the smoking guns - OH and FL (and everyone) PLEASE READ
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

(HOT, HOT GRAPHIC!!) 3D county map of electoral results says it all
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

This is proof of how they rigged this election PAY ATTENTION
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

WillPitt on BBV
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:49 PM
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20. Same links in Plain Text so you can copy/paste
FLORIDA
Florida and optical scan counties.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=28818#29123

In Duval Co. Fl 219,251 votes for Bush, only 190,111
registered Republican
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1709

I think FL op-scan tabulators were hacked - not touch-screens
(GRAPHS)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x28397

Historic vote count is over (Florida) 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=966536&mesg_id=966536


OTHER
I hear that on a local level Dems did well on November 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1337934

Sarpy County Nebraska
(thousands of votes added)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1544#1616

Secretary of State (Arkansas) Pleads guilty to taking bribes
in computer voting case
(2002 article - "immunity from prosecution witness"
also involved is now top ES&S official)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2628637#2629053


OHIO
ES&S "Former Employee" accessed rural OH BOE
Computer in Oct.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27251

AP: Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes (11,000+ extra
votes)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1522


NEW MEXICO
ABQ Journal: 18,000 Provisional Votes Await Count in N.M.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27889


NEVADA
Could this be how Bushass took the 2 percent in Nevada??
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1859#1872


NORTH CAROLINA
NC Voter Glitch "ES&S Sytems 11,283 "extra"
votes for president!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1746

BBV: Guilford County NC Gives bush 22,000 Votes!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1833


NATIONAL or MULTIPLE STATES
More and more news stories coming out on voting machine
problems
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x29125

I've compiled evidence of possible EVoting fraud
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1144

Sorting the smoking guns - OH and FL (and everyone) PLEASE
READ
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1812#1844

(HOT, HOT GRAPHIC!!) 3D county map of electoral results says
it all
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x28449

This is proof of how they rigged this election PAY ATTENTION
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1338070

WillPitt on BBV
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2632845
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:05 AM
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21. So, have you sent out letters to everyone you know?
Any blogs or media? C'mon, speak up.

I've sent mine to my address book list, and a few bloggers and other sites as I happened on them this afternoon.

How 'bout you?
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 01:18 AM
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22. I just got home from a trip
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:20 AM by uhhuh
But I'm going through this, and will start emailing soon.

You mentioned that New Hampshire has easy recount requirements.

What is the status of that? Has it been done, and if not, what can we do to make it happen?

I reread your second post.I see there that Nader has filed a request for recount. Will that be enough? What are the requirements?
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 05:05 AM
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23. kick!!!
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slack Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:31 AM
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24. Article about Florida-Fraud in german mainstream-Media
In the 'netzeitung' (means webbased newspaper) from Berlin is a summery of the article by Thom Hartman from Common Dreams (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm )

The 'netzeitung' is only webbased, but influent. Many readers in germany and the most articles appear later in other newspapers and magazins.

"Demokrat in Florida hlt US-Prsidentschaftswahl fr geflscht"
http://www.netzeitung.de/spezial/uswahlen2004/312327.ht...
(sorry, only in german, but it based on the commondreams-article)

Another article become released by Telepolis, the cultural magazin of the biggest newsmagazin for IT-Professionals in germany (Heise), the article is in english:
"Tweaking the vote"
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/co/18754/1.html

I think there will be much more attention about this topic in the next weeks, if there is more hard evidence.
I wish you sucess for your campain, grettings from germany :)
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