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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:26 PM
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only one - ONE - senator voted against the electoral votes - WTF
Just received letter from now about the women who stood up

and the vote after the discussioni

After the debate, Congress voted against the objection, by 267-31 in the House and by 74-1 in the Senate, and certified the election with Bush winning 286 electoral votes.

Our democratic senators have no backbone - none of them -
where was
dennis K
Hilary C
who were the other presidenial candidates

we already knew the dem candidate was a chicken -

who is in Washington representing us - who is earning our tax dollars
this is a sham

Please write Sen. Barbara Boxer and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones to show your support and thank them for their courage to stand up, even if it means standing alone, to protect democracy.

Sen. Barbara Boxer
Fax: 415-956-6701
Address: 112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
Phone: 202-224-3553
Send email via her web site

Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones
Fax: 202-225-1339
Address: 1009 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: 202-225-7032
Send email via her web site (this option for Ohio residents only)
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:28 PM
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1. Kucinich did stand up
But he's not a Senator.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:28 PM
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2. DK isn't a senator.
And he voted to object to the electors.

I think they decided they only needed one Senator to debate, and they wanted to limit the political fallout to that one.

While I would rather they had all voted to object and presented a show of unity, this will have to do.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:34 PM
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3. Look, we wanted one, we got one.
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 06:35 PM by Goldeneye
We had many others speak about election reform. I'm satisfied. Now can we move on?

Did you read what Barbara Boxer said...something like don't be upset about the yea/ney vote because things are rolling now...

Also, did you notice how on message every democrat was? They must have had a meeting before and figured out how to best handle it....all we can do is trust what they did, hope it works out for the best, and do what we can to get things fixed.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:48 PM
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4. Sen B. Boxer was not happy about the lack of support either but
she probably also does not want the rest being upset with her for standing up to the tide of Republican idiots. So in other words she may get negative reactions from Dems as well as Repubs because she has a spine and they do not. What is it about people that they do not see it when they are dumped on by many except for a few.

We should be working on supporting those who supported us and not doing anything for anyone who did not, how long do you really think it will take for them to get into line if we hold their feet to the fire ?? They deserved to know our angrier while we pile on the rewards to Sen Barbara Boxer and Cong. Tubb-Jones.

I just bet if we have the stomach to punish them as we should it would not be long before they were knocking on our doors again kissing our you know whats !!

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:43 PM
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6. You Are Totally Misinformed. Boxer Was NOT UNHAPPY. The Whole
Democratic presentation and actions were planned out ahead of time.

So why are you making shit up?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:41 PM
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5. In another country,
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 07:47 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
I'd ask the same question? But I've finally realised that the *only* way the neocons could be defeated on that issue in the US, was by initiating a process of drawing down public shame on them, at home and abroad; by having their duplicitous cant about being the party of values and morality, shown up in all its tawdry turpitude.

Had a number of senators, and more Congress critters entered the fray, it would have been easier for the neoconpersons to accuse them of challenging the result (futile); and thereby, preventing, even nullifying the cudgel the Democrats now possess of implicit condemnation of the neocons' mysterious unwillingness to hold verifiably honest elections: one of the most fundamental hallmarks of mature societies and the sovereign, indeed, defining criterion of democracies, world-wide.

Fraudulent elections, on the other hand, are not a charade to non-democratic governments, but priceless assets, since they afford that specious figment of plausibility to the politically naive majority of the population, and put the elephant in the living-room, behind a partition, for the purposes of international politics. Wasn't the title of East Germany, the German Democratic Republic?

Every country's leaders know the truth about virtually all each other's "elephants in the living-room", and must generally respect each other's privacy, or their own "elephants in the living-room" could be the next to fall prey to the light of, often the most elementary, truth, shone upon it by the others. The domino effect would be horrendous. You can imagine how hideous it would all be. The compelling statistical evidence of DNA coding, now accepted for convictions of murders and rapists, would become generalised - provided the statistical probability was overwhelming. Politicians and judiciaries all over the world, and in the US the administrators of the penal system, would be locked up, and most of their assets sequestrated, and paid into the countries' respective treasuries. Many government-funded court cases that are virtually open and shut, would be settled within minutes. Forensic scientists would be spared enormous amounts of costly investigative work. It goes on and on. That's why it's taken so long for this electoral malfeasance to become mainstream news throughout the world. But I think it is unlikely to last. Particularly since, before this election some of our national newspapers in the UK had finally begun to write about the Florida debacle as notoriously fraudulent.

Much heat would have been generated by an overtly adversarial demand for Kerry, the man actually chosen by the majority in a landslide, to be inaugurated President; but at the expense of light. This way, more and more light will be shone on the malfeasance, as time goes by, gradually dowsing their frustrated fire and heat, until it's all up with them for generations, as a political force.
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