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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:55 PM
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If on January 6 no Senator stands up......
I will do something that some will think to be suicidal:

I will run for U.S. Congress in my district as an independent.
My platform will be mainly election reform.

Silly, huh?
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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:56 PM
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1. Not at all.
My mother-in-law is trying to get me to do the same thing in Colorado.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:57 PM
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2. nothing silly about it
I wish you all the luck in the world. We need more spirit like this!:toast:
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:57 PM
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3. Sounds Good
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 09:57 PM by OrangeCountyDemocrat
If I even bother voting again in the next election, it wouldn't be for any democratic candidate. It's no big deal to me, and I'm only a single person, but they Will lose my vote, which they've had since I started voting 20 years ago.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:58 PM
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4. BTW, Orange County, CA?
That's not where I live, but I did live in Whittier, CA and worked in Garden Grove. Just curious.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:15 PM
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16. Yes....repub Orange County CA
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:00 PM
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9. The Democrats will lose millions of supporters
That's why I think they'll surprise us in a few days. It would be incredibly stupid to not stand up and fight.
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PinkPantherChick Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:59 PM
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5. what is "silly" about that?
They are going to elect SOMEONE and SOMEONE is going to run, why not you? If there are more straight thinking dems in office then there are more chances to get something done. I would suggest that you run as a "rina" (republican in name only) since the sheeple are only electing bush wannabees. he he
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:59 PM
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7. Maybe I'll create a BAAAAAA Party... hehe n/t
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 09:59 PM
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6. As I just posted in another thread ...
if the Dems aren't going to help us take our country back, we'll have to do it without them. I hope they have fun running their campaigns without all that grassroots money and support.

It's not silly at all. Go for it! :toast:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:00 PM
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8. If no Senator stands up Jan 6th then admit it PRI of Mexico-- the
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 10:06 PM by EVDebs
one party rule--is what we've got here now. It's not revolutionary but it's certainly institutional.

During the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964 there are only two names remembered....Sen Wayne Morse's who voted against it, along with one other Senator, Ernest Gruening of Alaska. All the other toadies deserve forgetting anyway that day. Wayne and Ernest showed up for work, the others could have phoned it in, if you get my drift.

Maybe they can read this about Morse and muster up a little courage
http://www.jfklibrary.org/pr_pica_essay_winner_2003_announce.html
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:04 PM
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10. Like your spirit! It's going to be somebody, probably Byrd.
This is the only thing the Democrats can do to fire things up plus they owe it to black voters, our most loyal base.

And I mean the Democrats owe it to black voters big time. Think about what happened in Florida and Ohio and who the main target was.

This is a VOTING RIGHTS ISSUE and A CIVIL RIGHTS issue

When one of them does this, there will be a shit-storm of acrimonious attacks by the fascists. It's up to us to hang in there and fight back.

******************Let's get ready to rumble!******************
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:08 PM
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11. Why not run in the Democratic primary instead?
You could still call attention to the issue. You'd have an opportunity to highlight voting election reform amongst Democratic grass roots in your district or state. Should you win you'd get the backing of the entire party to run your general election campaign, and have at least a shot to beat the GOP candidate and actually serve in office. If you lose you'd have still drawn attention to the issue you care most about, and yet not split off progressives and others from the Democratic candidate in the general election. Reform from within is almost always best. If it is something you deeply care about, get involved as a Democrat and work to change the party to better represent your views.

Just my opinion anyway.

Good luck to you.

Imajika
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:10 PM
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13. Problem with that is....
The local area Dem party has their own candidates lined up. Plus, I wouldn't be running just to bring an issue up, I'd be running to win!
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:20 PM
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18. Well..
..the local area Dem party obviously doesn't have candidates that believe in the issues that you care about most right? Or they are not taking on the election issues as aggressively as you believe necessary?

What I am saying is, if the local area Dem's are not representing the grass roots why shouldn't you be the one to stand up and do it?

If no one in your district really cares about the issue, your not going to get any media attention running as an independent anyway. Realize how many citizens try to do that, and not only do they rarely succeed - they rarely even get noticed.

But if you run as a Democrat from within the party, you have far more opportunity to have a platform to air your views and discuss the issues you care most about. If there really is a serious interest in the issue amongst average Democrats in your district or State, you might wind up being the only one speaking to their views right? You can run as something of an insurgent Democrat taking on the tired establishment - a candidate that will really shake things up.

It's just a thought. As I said, I think more people should get involved, and I wish you the best!

Imajika
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:21 PM
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19. Wow, very compelling argument. Thank you. n/t
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:10 PM
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12. do it anyway! *smile* n/t
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:13 PM
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14. If the Dems do not take the bull by the horns they will lose more than
just my vote! They will lose my pocketbook along with many other Americans!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:25 PM
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23. Hi NoBushSpokenHere!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:15 PM
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15. An evern better plan IMO...
...would be to give less than progressive democrats primary challenges in EVERY district.

Best Case Scenario: Reform-minded progressive candidates

Worst Case Scenario: Forcing the democrats to take a strong position on election reform.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:19 PM
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17. True, but I have a unique area...
lots of colleges and a very liberal environment that might be condusive to an independent candidate.

But I'll keep you suggestion in mind definitely.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:27 PM
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20. Go for it even if...
you've a snowball's chance in Hell. Gov. Dean says, "Don't just vote, run." Run, hon, run. But hope to Christ some Senator stands up January 6, that's Epiphany after all miracles can happen, so pray before you run.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:28 PM
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21. I'm not religious, but I will be until Jan. 6... couldn't hurt. :) n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:43 PM
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22. no senators on 1/6 = Green day
No dem senators stand up on 1/6, and a lot of the energy will go to the greens, and the dems will become the whigs.

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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:11 PM
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27. exactly.
If no democrat stands up, then they're no better (and possibly worse) than those who would steal an election.

If no democrat stands up, Nader (who had my vote in 2000 but not 2004) was right all along.

If no democrat stands up, then I will never vote for any one of them ever again.
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:27 PM
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24. You Rock!!!!!
It's not silly at all. It's wonderful.

--Nancy
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:29 PM
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25. My answer to the question: "What political experience do you have?"
My answer:

NOT A DAMN BIT!

:hi:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:31 PM
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26. Let us know if/when it's official. I'm good for a few bucks.
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