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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:07 PM
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Just got off the phone with a bunch of the people involved
I am, of course, eating my own face here. Everyone I talked to who is hands-on in this thing told me to relax, breathe deeply, the filing is going to happen today. I am told it will happen by 5pm, and I will get the documents once that happens, but because of the PACER filing system, it might happen after 5. In other words, I'm in hell.

I spoke to the court clerk - nice man - and he said nothing new had appeared on the docket, but stuff doesn't show up on the docket until 24 hours after filing.

I'm sorry this is stretching out so much. If anyone thinks I am enjoying this, they're crazy.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:09 PM
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1. We're all going nuts, Will, but
we're hanging in there with you. It will be worth the wait when it's a done deal. Thanks again!

How's your cat doing?
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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8. Dear All
we need Will to stay sane, lets lock this thread and not bother him
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:53 PM
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60. What does lock a thread mean?
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regularjoe Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:19 PM
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79. When the mods lock a thread you can no longer post any replies
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:03 PM
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82. Why would be the reason to lock a thread?
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:09 PM
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Thanks again Will
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 04:18 PM by warrior1
We're right there with you, not eating your face or anything.

I think you should make up with you kitty. I'll help.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:09 PM
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2. Quit play-acting! You know you like it! ;-)
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:09 PM
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3. What does this mean, exactly?
I guess I am having trouble really getting excited about any of this. What exactly does any of this mean?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:14 PM
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24. the lawsuit filed by the greens was dismissed and kerry is joining in to
revive the effort, because he alone can show he suffered damage due to voting irregularites. Funny, I thought all of us had a compelling interest in fair elections!
Anyway, he is supposed to be adding new charges to the original suit as well. hopefully in the next hour!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:44 PM
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53. Is this true? (lawsuit filed by the Greens "dismissed"?)
Which lawsuit are you talking about? Was there a court action of dismissal in any relevant lawsuit--or are you just talking about the "temporary restraining order" (TRO) matter (that Greens can't show irreparable harm, to immediately stop the state from doing something)?

Denial of a TRO is not the same thing as a dismissal. TRO has a higher standard of proof because it stops some action--prevents harm to litigants or their case; whereas a dismissal throws the whole lawsuit out of court--dead, fini (unless court permits a re-filing).

Could someone just very briefly give status of the lawsuits? And which of them is Kerry intervening in?
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:09 PM
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4. we don't think that
hold tight
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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5. Thanks for the update. I will rest my refresh finger for a bit!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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6. I have no cigarettes left...
I have smoked them all. And, until recently, I had sworn off them. :)
Thanks for your updates. It's been really difficult to concentrate on the job that I'm actually paid to do! Off to see if someone has a smoke.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:11 PM
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18. I've got one
Come on over!

Im just glad to be on the WEst Coast today, because everything happens 3 hours sooner here! (or is Ohio CST?)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:21 PM
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33. TY for the offer.
I appreciate it. Make me a martini, and I'll be right there. :)
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:28 PM
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43. Ohio is on Eastern Time
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:16 PM
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27. I started smoking this week too. NOT GOOD
It was either that or buy M&M's....
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:20 PM
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32. M&Ms -- Mmmm, Yum!
The little mini ones... Having a Homer moment!
I know, this whole thing is bad for our health -- on so many levels!
:)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:03 PM
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68. Ears perking! M&Ms and cigarettes! My kind of people!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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7. Of course you're enjoying it - aren't you a freeper operative?
Didn't I read that somewhere? ;)

LOL!

We're all refreshing and refreshing, Will. Glad you're updating us or we'd go completely insane!!

Thanks for all that you do.

Arnheim
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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9. Still waiting
Thanks Will - Rome wasn't built in a day. The Empire will take some time to heal after everything hits the fan.
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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10. As always - thank you :)
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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11. I apprectiate the update.
Thanks!
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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12. Thanks, Will.
Don't worry, we're with ya.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:10 PM
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13. Damn PACERS!!! Go Knicks!!! :)
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:11 PM
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14. You big drama queen!
you love it!

Great! Thanks for the update.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:11 PM
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15. It's going to happen today Will. I realize you feel obligated to get
The news out as soon as possible to us, but I don't think not one person here wants you to go through what you're going through right now.

Now take some deep cleansing breaths (sans tobacco). ;)
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:11 PM
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16. Cheers Will
Thanks for keeping us informed. You're just stuck in the middle. Ninety-eight percent of the United States is in holiday mode. We can find out tomorrow.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:11 PM
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17. Stop digesting your liver.
Have actual food.

THEN step to the front door and open it. Breathe oxygen. Walk outside. Gaze around you. The world, at least the parts not hit by a tsunami, are still there. Rejoice.

Go back inside.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:12 PM
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19. Any more info on what the "broader" means?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:12 PM
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20. go take a walk around the block Will, get a couple packs of smokes
and something to drink, we'll wait for you here :D
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angel54321 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:13 PM
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21. Hey Will,
Think the news is big enough that MSM will pick it up?
Thanx for the update O8)
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:14 PM
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22. Thanks Will
Here, ya go :beer:

:loveya:
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:14 PM
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23. is something going on?
n/t

:)
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:15 PM
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25. Okay.
:freak:
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:16 PM
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26. pins and needles...
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Miami Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:17 PM
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28. Thanks
Does this mean the MSM won't pick it up until tomorrow? :shrug:
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:18 PM
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29. If fighting the BFEE were easy, the Girl Scouts would be doing it.
Thank you for all your effort.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:18 PM
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30. By The Way, That First-Hand Truthout Report From Asia Is Cool -- Thanks
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 04:21 PM by Tace
Here's the link for others who haven't seen it:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122804X.shtml
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:19 PM
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31. Thanks, Will. Please don't apologize.

Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:22 PM
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34. I have no idea if this is worth looking at I found it at, I think, BNA
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 04:25 PM by caligirl
politics and Money. It describes test comuware did on voting machines for Blacwell and vulnerabilities in the systems. Can someone take a look at it?



http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/hava/files/compuware.pdf


found at

http://www.bna.com/moneyandpolitics/evoting.htm
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:22 PM
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35. Please don't feel like you have to apologize.
Good things come to those who wait. :)
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:22 PM
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36. Maybe it's good that its taking longer...
maybe that has something to do with the fact that it's bigger?
Hope so.
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:22 PM
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37. Update appreciated, can now just patiently wait.
listening to Hartmann now on AAR, got tv on showing tsunami news, and updating blogs, can wait ... it'll be worth it. Meantime, Will, do some self-care cause lots of folks looking to your safe and sane state of mind. You have a cat huh, me too, and mine purrs, calming.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:23 PM
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38. By 6:01 PM
That's when I am officially 50...so I figure he just wants the news out closer to my birth time?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:25 PM
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39. PACER Service Center
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:26 PM
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40. Try hot chocolate with marshmallows...
or a sedative ,whatever works!!LOL
we're here with ya.:freak:
Thanks for keeping us in the loop!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:26 PM
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41. William Pitt Hang in there... Pacer is a PITB for rapid info on
day of filing. If they say it's happening today, it will happen. We are not blaming you for the delay. Patience dear laddie patience.
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:27 PM
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42. Hang tough bro - I'm smoking as many as you
at this stage of the process, any news is good news. Only an idiot (or a freeper) would hold you responsible for the slow grind of the wheels of justice. We will beat this FRAUD yet.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:28 PM
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44. Will take a good book, seat down and read
Take care of YOUR HEALTH... and your kitty.

Trust me, you worrying crazy will not speed this up one bit.

Me back to bryce modelling....

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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:29 PM
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45. It's OK, Will.
We're used to waiting. Anyway, there's enough going on in the world that needs our attention today. Got to figure out how to send cash to help with the devastation overseas.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:32 PM
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46. thanks so much, bless you nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:33 PM
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47. Just give them more hell than they're giving you, Will
One day you'll enjoy the battle story.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:33 PM
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48. I have a pacer login , whats the case name, I'm checking the
soputhern Ohio courts right?
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:34 PM
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49. I, for one, am a very patient woman.
Hang in there William.

I'm off the computer for a bit for an appt. I will be eagerly anticipating the update when I return.

Good luck. May The Force be with you.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:39 PM
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50. Thanks for the updates Will!!!
:yourock:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:42 PM
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51. It's 4:40 EST
If they're filing before 5 today, they better get cracking.

Still, good te hear it may not show up until tomorrow. I can wait until then. What's another 24-hours for justice to go public? Drop in the bucket in the history of justice struggles.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:50 PM
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55. OH is in Central Time isn't it? n/t
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:55 PM
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63. No, it's EST. n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:43 PM
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52. Thanks for your efforts!!
There are some things beyond our control...PEACE!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:47 PM
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54. Thanks for these little updates, though.
You know that if we didn't hear from you at all, we'd be flipping out much more vigorously.

Is it cocktail hour yet?

:beer:
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:53 PM
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62. almost n/t
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:57 PM
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66. OK....you all convinced me...
I don't smoke (anymore) but it is cocktail hour for sure! Going crazy here waiting!!
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Eye_on_prize Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:51 PM
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56. Will, is there any update on how this filing relates to Blackwell's recent
lockdown of poll books until Jan 10th? did folks you talked with say anything about this that you can share?
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:51 PM
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57. Will, do you know if Kerry knows the election was stolen?
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 05:01 PM by Amaryllis
This may seem like a stupid question, but...I got nervous when I read this from this thread, post #55

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=195607&mesg_id=197344&page=

My understanding is that Kerry has been depressed about losing a national election. Understandably. Remember Al Gore and the Grizzly Adams look? In addition, the envelope of advisors around any politician is very tight. In essence, you hear what people think you should hear. His brother Cam has been very skeptical about the "fraud" allegations, which should give us an idea of what Kerry himself is hearing. Theresa on the other hand seems to get it, but as of last week it was unclear what she was actually doing.

Kerry has to know it was stolen, doesnt he? Do you know anything about what he believes or knows about this?

Before the election, I went to watch the vice pres debate at a Dem group thing because Andre Heinz was there. I wanted to ask him about the voting machines. Everyone else was gathered around trying to get his autograph and get their pix taken with him and Im standing there saying, What about the voting machines? Do they know about the security issues? Are they doing anything about it? and he said, Well, theres exit polls.
And I had this sinking feeling that maybe they didnt even know what they were up against.

But by now, with all the Conyers investigation and Arnebeck, he has to know, right?
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:51 PM
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58. well, you're better than tv right now Will.
and we all know how delicious eating our own is... don't we.
:P

If Will doesn't save democracy for the the US, the universe and all unknown universes, he's a failure...... oiy.


Like really, anyone else Actually think there was something happening today, especially early today?
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:52 PM
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59. No newstime today anyway - may be just as well
so much newstime taken by OBL and the horrors of the earthquake and tidal wave, there is already no "inclination" to give the e-fraud subject time so it would have been buried today anyway.

No apologies necessary Will - your time and contributions here are quite appreciated!

PJ

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:53 PM
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61. Thank you Will, hang in there.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:56 PM
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64. William Pitt frantically checks notes to make sure Bill Burkett isn't
his source on this one.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:56 PM
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65. Perhaps the strategy is to wait to file as late as possible?!?!?
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beachgrl60 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:01 PM
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67. nothing happening today!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:06 PM
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69. I checked pacer and this is all I found,
First MOTION for Discovery (Preservation Order and Leave to Take Limited Expedited Discovery) by Intervenor Defendant KERRY-EDWARDS 2004 INC. (McTigue, Donald) (Entered: 12/27/2004)
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:10 PM
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72. This sounds like something...
Will, is this it?
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delphine Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:13 PM
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73. This is it, then. And it's more than just keeping
K-E involved. This is an action the campaign's attorneys are taking separately from the glibs. More than in support of the recount, they are asking to be able to conduct discovery and have the "evidence" (voting machines?) preserved.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:15 PM
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76. That's gotta be it, dated today!
And with the KE name on it. Any details?
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:10 PM
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70. Checking in & thanks Will, I have been dying to get on and see how
things are advancing with Kerry, etc.

I await are update later today.

:bounce:

Thank so much for keeping us in the circle.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:10 PM
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71. Is this what we're talking about?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=198486&mesg_id=198486

Miami Liberal
Mon Dec-27-04 09:24 AM
Original message

New Olbermann blog 12/27, with full text statement from Kerry lawyer

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240 /

As promised, the full text of the statement to Countdown from the evening of December 23 of Daniel J. Hoffheimer, State Legal Counsel, Ohio, Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc., (and, yes, hes referring to himself in the third person here):

Daniel Hoffheimer, State Legal Counsel for the Kerry-Edwards campaign, told MSNBC today that Kerry-Edwards will support the third-party candidates in asking the Federal Court in the Ohio recount lawsuit to order the preservation of the evidence obtained during the recount and to expedite discovery of the facts. Hoffheimer said that various problems and errors have occurred in a number of Ohio's 88 county boards of elections during the recount, which will conclude next week. Hoffheimer acknowledged that the most publicized of these problems was the machine manipulation in Hocking County but said that the developing evidence will reveal other problems as well. He said that Senators Kerry and Edwards are very concerned that the law for conducting the recount should be uniformly followed. They want to be sure that all circumstances involved in the Ohio election, including the recount, should be put before the Court and disclosed to the American people. Only then, Hoffheimer said, can the integrity of the entire electoral process and the election of Bush-Cheney warrant the public trust."

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Will someone please clarify the legal situation. Third-party candidates in Federal Court (as per above)? Arnebeck (Alliance, Common Cause, voters) in State Court? What is the impending Kerry legal action? In which suit? (Or new filing?) I've lost track and it's been a lo-o-o-ong holiday weekend! (I know, I can search DU for this, but if someone can save me that effort, I would be grateful.)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:14 PM
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74. Please
I asked this on that thread...

Arnebeck's suits (there are two, split from one) in OH SC.
Original Glibs suit (back when I was young) that K/E already joined.
New filing by Glibs in Federal Court last Friday.

K/E -- filing a new suit or joining the Glibs in Fed Court?

I'm gonna need a scorecard -- nice to see I'm not the only one.

:)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:18 PM
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78. Thanks so much!
Wish I could offer you a glass of Bailey's to toast them all with!
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delphine Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:17 PM
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77. Yes, and it looks like it was filed.
Third party candidates: Greens and Libertarians (Cobb and Bednarik) or "GLIBs" are suing for a recount and the case is in Federal court; Arnebeck is claiming fraud and the case is at the State Court level.

KE is filing as intervenor (basically a party that has entered the lawsuit after initial filing to protect its own interests) and is asking on its own behalf to have the evidence preserved and to conduct discovery. It is a new filing and goes above and beyond just joining in on something the GLIB's are doing -
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:15 PM
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75. THE FILING IS IN
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:22 PM
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81. Thanks, Will!
Wish I could offer you some Bailey's, too! Celebrate!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 05:21 PM
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80. Isn't Ohio in the Central Time Zone?
So, basically, there's almost another hour.
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