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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:06 AM
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Everyone: The very second I hear something, I will post it
Stop chewing on your fingernails. Don't go do laps in the snow. Put away the bottle of scotch, and for God's sake, turn off CNN. :)

I have two phones next to me, messages into the appropriate people. Let me be the one to relentlessly click 'refresh' on my email.

Go be normal people. It'll come.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:07 AM
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1. Thank you for being the voice of reason. n/t
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:07 AM
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2. Ok, Thanks for
letting us know.
Now I can go in the shower.




BTW---THANK YOU WILL FOR EVERYTHING!!!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:07 AM
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3. Normal people?! I don't think we have any illusions of that anymore!
Although I'd rather be what we are than normal!!!

:P
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 03:20 PM
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81. "Normal", this is DU!!! The proud, the strange, the abject few.
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kc.ink Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:08 AM
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4. can't stand it, I have to go to work n/t
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:09 AM
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8. Do you have email at work?
PM the address to me. I'll let you know when something comes.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:08 AM
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5. can't stop refreshing
can't stop:crazy:
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:08 AM
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6. how 'bout donuts in the snow instead of laps?
:shrug:
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:18 AM
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23. mmmmm.... donuts in the snow.....


The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:08 AM
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7. Thanks, Will, for everything you're doing
If not for you, most of us wouldn't have a clue about what's really going on. I'm so thankful for your posts and constant updates. I'm so glad you have the connections to get us the news as it break. Lord knows, we'd never get it from the MSM.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:11 AM
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9. Normal? I don't think I will ever be normal again.
While you are relentlessly clicking refresh on your email, I will be relentlessly clicking refresh here at DU.

:P

Looking forward to your posts today Will. Keep up the good work. And Thank You for all you are doing.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:11 AM
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10. Thanks! I needed that reassurance!
I've already ingested the caffeine, though. Any suggestions on what to do with this excess energy? :)
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:13 AM
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11. Actually I was kicking the neighbor's cat....
Don't like the mangy mongrel anyway... keeps scratching my kids.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:14 AM
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12. You are the best Will! You are reading all of our collective minds...
This "relentless refreshing" (a new term is born!) is indeed getting out of control. As for "being normal", now that's another story!

Thank you for reminding us to have faith...

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:14 AM
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13. I saw the Movie "The Matrix" on Sunday , and was struck by the sentence:
"Rest, Neo. The answers are coming."
I was so taken by that, and it calmed me. I will make Bumpersticker like it. Neon green and black!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:14 AM
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14. I forget how to be normal people. Too late, I already did laps in the snow

Just want something to smile about!!!!!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:14 AM
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15. I know something Will
don't know.


:evilgrin:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:18 AM
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21. You tease.
You MUST tell, or I will be forced to have another cup of coffee!
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:30 AM
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39. no no not another cup of coffee blue neen
step away from the perculator:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:35 AM
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41. LOL!
You caught me!

I was just doing calisthenics in front of the TV! This is hopeless!
:silly:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:45 AM
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48. I am having a cup now
and there not helping!!...there making me
:-) :beer: :crazy:
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:34 PM
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75. I feel like I've had six cups of coffee,but i only had a 1/2 cup
630 am. I can't imagine the energy if I had more than that. I was so excited this morning to get to work and find out the news.

come on news
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:18 AM
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22. Andy, you IS bad.
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:18 AM
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24. is it good or bad
you got me worried...
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:21 AM
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29. Feelin' better today, Andy?
NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:11 PM
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65. Hello?
You sounded like you were in rough shape the other night. You doin' okay now?

NGU.


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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:21 AM
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32. Come on man, tell us!
:argh:
All of this whispering the last few days is driving us nuts!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:42 AM
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46. I am just yanking chains.
Will will let us know...I am certain...as soon as he knows something.

Meanwhile...I am here listening to the lawyers talk law. It is interesting...to say the least.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:46 AM
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50. Well Andy....
What are they talking about?????
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:52 AM
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53. Stuff n
things.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:50 AM
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51. Please share!
I love jucy secrets.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:57 AM
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59. LOL
You and Pitt are a great pair! Oh well, suspense is kind of fun....
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PaIndependent Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:15 AM
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16. Guilty as charged ;)
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:15 AM
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17. Ok Will. Patiently waiting... Well, trying to anyway lol (n/t)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:17 AM
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18. Will, a question regarding Triad Management Services...
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 11:19 AM by flpoljunkie
Is this the same Triad Management Systems connected to Koch Industries and discussed in "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

From "What's the Matter with Kansas?", p. 81-82 by Thomas Frank...

"...The Kansas sensibility with which Vernon Smith is most closely connected is not that of populism, but Koch Industries, the nation's second-largest privately held company. Based in Wichita, Koch's primary business is oil, but is far better known for its owners' openhanded political activities than for its petroleum operations. The founder of the dunasty, Fred Koch, was a charter member of the John Birch Soceity. His billionaire son Charles founded the libertarian Cato Institute in 1977, and another billionaire son, David, ran for vice president on the Libertarian ticket in 1980. Koch money flowed through Triad Management Services, which delivered such crucial assistance to Sam Brownback's Senate campaign in 1996; and Koch money, mingled with the money of so many other oil interests,supported the presidential campaign of George W. Bush."
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:18 AM
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19. Hurry This up Please, I live in a county known for Tsunami warning signs
along the highways, and with the planet shaking all over, and me in WA where an extension of the Calif faultline runs, Mt St Helens bubbling away and the almost ever imminent threat the Pacific will tsunami and wipe out our little village here, John Kerry please act soon while I'm still here to hear about it.

Okay, can you tell I'm a tad bit nervous about Mother Nature's loud reactions of late?
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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:21 AM
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30. We should all be worried!!!!!!
Tsunamis may not be the end of it!


http://www.victorynewsmagazine.com/TheVolcanoThatMayDestroyMankind.htm
http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/southeast_asia/indonesia/toba.html
http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/ECNews/SuperVolc/Krakatau/Krakatau1.htm


the earthquake that caused the biggest Tsunami was a 9.0!!!!

it moved the island of Sumatra 100 ft. to the Southwest!

it also has the BIGGEST VOLCANO on it to erupt in the last 2 million years! last erupting 75,000 years ago

it also is right by Krakatau, and some other volcanoes along the tectonic plates!

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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:51 AM
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52. I imagine Thom Hartmann will have a lot of interesting perspectives
on the tsunami tragedy?!! I hope it's a live show today. I think he may also be filling in for Randi today too. This holiday season is driving me crazy b/c all of my news sources are away vacationing.

Will, I hope you'll call into Thom's show with any news that you hear about Kerry filing.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:18 AM
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20. someone stop me before I refresh again.......
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:19 AM
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25. Thanks, Will.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:19 AM
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26. What are we waiting for..?? and where can i go if i miss it..? moves quick
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:00 PM
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61. LOL. Are you darting here and there, and everywhere?!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:20 AM
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27. Thank you, thank you, thank you....
for convincing me NOT to do laps in the snow.. (I only wish I were tempted! LOL :eyes:)

DUers are very lucky to have you as our own!
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:21 AM
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31. Thank you for everything Will
Thank you Will, for caring enough to keep us updated on the latest news.

:yourock:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:23 AM
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:25 AM
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34. welcome salmon fishing.
:hi:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:46 PM
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77. they are not filing a suit
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:25 AM
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35. OK I'm gonna clean out the kid's playroom in the attic
That should kill 6 or 7 hours.

I'll bring the laptop to the attic....just in case.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:26 AM
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36. Okeedokee William Pitt
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:27 AM
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37. be normal people..thats funny
why start now? Thanks Will.....
I will walk away from my computer .
Perhaps I should even do some work.
its not easy being self employed
ever since...Nov 2nd. :crazy:
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:35 AM
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44. I hear that, nobody to yell at me, get back to work. Consequently,
productivity has fallen off. I will try and 'get back to work' now, and stop relentlessly refreshing.
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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:27 AM
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38. Will, are you inspired to do so much b/c you are a teacher?
I've been a TO reader for a long time and have followed your transition from teacher to full fledged journalist and even your stint w/Kucinich. Your students should be very proud of your progress and lucky that your passion for the truth and the protection of their future has touched their lives. Teachers like you can leave an impression on students for life.

I discovered DU since election. For many years, as a peace activist, I've joked that I feel like a character in an exciting spy adventure that's much better than fiction b/c it doesn't end. This election, with all of the hacking and the MSM fantasy world seems more like a sci-fi thriller than plain old fiction. Scary and exciting.

btw - where has Dennis Kucinich been hiding?!!
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:38 AM
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45. I've been looking for Kucinich, too
I have not met him yet, so he does not know that he and I are going to get married.:loveya:
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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:05 PM
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63. I met Dennis at a Highland Park party covered by The Daily Show
One of the people in my Central NJ media activist group had a pot luck party for him before the election. Samantha Bee was there to cover it. It was hard to believe that they could make fun of him, b/c he was such an inspiration, but they managed. Well, that's what they do! Gotta love those crazies for making everything funny.

Here is a video to watch while you wait: illegal codeopenMediaPop('/multimedia/tds/bee/bee_8148.html','','SRM','high');

I can't see the video on my mac - here is the archive page that it's from - the video is called Potluck NJ style: http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/videos_corr.jhtml?p=bee
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windycitychick Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:32 AM
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40. New to DU
But would also like to send a big "Thank You" to Will. Reading DU regularly has allowed me to spread the the truth to many family members and friends so thanks to all the DU members too!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:35 AM
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42. Hi windycitychick. I'm new too. Still learning.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:54 AM
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57. Welcome to DU! A good time to start posting.
:hi:
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:21 PM
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70. You're one of the lucky ones
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 12:25 PM by Chimpanzee
Save for my brother DU:Pharaoh, the rest of my family and friends think we are both totally nuts! But that just makes the final vindication even sweeter!!

Welcome to DU!
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:35 AM
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43. I just logged in...
What are we waiting on?

TlalocW
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:42 AM
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47. cool interview with lou reed on air america to listen to while you wait
it's best of -- from the repuke convention

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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:46 AM
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49. For the sake of those who just logged on...
what are we waiting to hear about? Is it something about the Ohio recount? please take just a moment to give us a clue.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:54 AM
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56. I'll try to find the original link hold on n/t
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:57 AM
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60. here is the link
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:04 PM
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62. that link... is it a long 600er thread?
my comp goes nuts on those real long threads - so I don't Ever just click before asking anymore (and I have cable).

can you summarize?
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:31 PM
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73. yeah I can do better
I'll give you the whole story.Later in the day will posted that they could not file due to snowstorms and would have to wait until today. Then he posted an addendum saying that it was going to be broader than originally thought and that the greens and independants were happy. I think that sums it up.
Kerry to Enter Ohio Recount Fray
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Report

Thursday 23 December 2004

2004 Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry will file today, in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, papers in support of the Green Party/Libertarian Party recount effort. Specifically, Kerry will be filing a request for expedited discovery regarding Triad Systems voting machines, as well as a motion for a preservation order to protect any and all discovery and preserve any evidence on this matter.

Triad Systems has come under scrutiny recently after Sherole Eaton, deputy director of elections for Hocking County, swore out an affidavit in which she described her witnessing the tampering of electronic voting equipment by a Triad representative. Rep. John Conyers, the ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, has requested an investigation into this matter by the FBI and the Hocking County prosecutor.

Truthout will have more on this specific Triad allegation later in the day.

Previously, the Green Party and Libertarian Party have not fared well in their efforts to get emergency orders regarding this matter in Ohio. In order to pass muster with a judge, the individual or group requesting an emergency order for such a recount must show both irreperable harm as well as a substantial chance for success on the merits. While Green and Libertarian representatives could theoretically be able to show irreparable harm, they could not establish a substantial chance for success on the merits, because no recount would deliver Ohio to either party.

Kerry's entry into this recount effort changes the math on this matter dramatically. He can likewise show irreparable harm, and unlike the Green and Libertarian candidates, he can also prove a substantial chance for success on the merits because he lost the Ohio vote by a statistical whisker.

It should be noted that Kerry's filing of these requests does not indicate his complete entry into the recount process, but does clearly indicate that he is moving decisively in that direction. His previous stance on the matter was based simply on his desire to defend the right to have a recount in the first place. The evidence of election tampering in Ohio, specifically surrounding Triad, has motivated him to actively join the fight. The Democratic Party is also quietly putting financial resources into the Ohio recount effort.

Perhaps the most significant aspect of all this, from the activist point of view, has been the effectiveness of the telephone calls and letters to Kerry. The activist push to get him involved had a significant effect on his decision to enter this effort. Likewise, calls to other Senators in order to convince them to join House members in challenging the election have likewise had significant effect. If such an effort continues, the activists involved will very likely see the desired result unfold.



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William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times and internationally bestselling author of two books - 'War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know' and 'The Greatest Sedition Is Silence.'

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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 01:06 PM
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79. thanks! now let's hope Michael Jackson fluffnews doesn't pre-empt. n/t
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hoosierblue Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:53 AM
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54. Thanks, Will.
But I don't do normal very well. And I stopped watching CNN months ago (Nov. 3). The only channel I wanna see is c-span.
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Philothea Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:54 AM
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55. Thanks for the advice...
but I think I'll sit right here and wait. I can't think of anything more important I'd like to do.




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Democat009 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:57 AM
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58. Can't wait !
:bounce:

This is going to be gooood.
Democracy and Kerry will win!!
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:07 PM
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64. New thread, right? n/t
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:11 PM
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66. Yup
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:13 PM
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67. I have a really good feeling, Will
:yourock:
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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:17 PM
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68. Thom will be on from now til' 7pm! Cliff Arneback will be on after 1:00!!
He's talking about elections right now. In Iraq! Making comparisons. Could someone make a thread for his show? I'm still a newbie.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:20 PM
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69. On Where?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:23 PM
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71. Other forums are also tracking this too
I'm trying to track this for the elections forums on CGCS and JREG, as soon as anything new breaks.

Refreshing madly, while at work. Hoping no customers call and interupt my web surfing.
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:07 PM
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80. What is JREG. I already am on at CGCS?
hey rox63 hopping around at work, what is JREG..link, please. :bounce:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:30 PM
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72. normally waiting in Syracuse, NY....
Tick, tock, tick, tock,
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:32 PM
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74. Hail to my old digs!
How much snow ya got up there?
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:36 PM
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76. Thanks, Will!!!
My fingers were getting kinda short.....
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ExpatriateTexan Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:51 PM
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78. Don't Want to be Normal
Apparently "normal" people don't care if the election was stolen, the "Administration" engineered the 9/11 attack and the USA is now queued up to join Mussolini's Italy and Hitler's Germany as the most hated regimes in world history.
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