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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:57 PM
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VERY STRANGE, VERY STRANGE....
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 02:27 PM by TruthIsAll
THE NATIONAL VOTE/EXIT POLL TIMELINE
AND THE OHIO/FLORIDA EXIT POLL DISCREPANCIES.	

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KEE411A.html			

NATIONAL VOTE

9:06PM: 
Bush was winning the popular vote: 54.8% - 45.2%				
Kerry was winning the exit polls: 50.8% - 47.8%
How could this be?				
				
Popular Vote (in millions)				
Time	Bush	Pct	Kerry	Pct
8:50pm	6.59	55.7%	5.24	44.3%
9:00pm	8.28	55.3%	6.70	44.7%
9:06pm	9.26	54.8%	7.65	45.2%

NATIONAL EXIT POLL				

9:06pm:		Bush	Kerry	
Women	54%	45%	54%	
Men	46%	51%	47%	

Total	100%	47.76%	50.78%

Very strange, very strange.

*************************************************

OHIO			

At 7:32PM, Kerry was winning both the male AND female exit
polls 	
Of 1963 polled, Kerry led by 52.1-47.9%			

By 1:41AM, the numbers had reversed.			
Of 2020 polled, Bush led 50.9-48.6%			

How could this have occurred with an increase of only 57
polled?

Very strange, very strange.

7:32PM	1963	Polled
	
		Bush	Kerry
Women	53%	47%	53%
Men	47%	49%	51%

Total	100%	47.94%	52.06%


1:41AM	2020	Polled
	
		Bush	Kerry
Women	53%	50%	50%
Men	47%	52%	47%

Total	100%	50.94%	48.59%

*****************************************************


FLORIDA			

At 8:40PM, Kerry led the women polled: 52-47%			
Of 2846 polled, Kerry led 49.7-49.3%			

By 1:01AM, the situation had reversed.		
Of 2862 polled, Bush led 51.4-47.6%			
 			
How could this have occurred with an increase of only 16
polled?

Very strange, very strange.
			

8:40PM	2846	Polled	

		Bush	Kerry
Women	54%	47%	52%
Men	46%	52%	47%

Total	100%	49.30%	49.70%



1:01AM	2862	Polled	

		Bush	Kerry
Women	54%	50%	49%
Men	46%	53%	46%

Total	100%	51.38%	47.62%
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:00 PM
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1. That is why...
we know this was fraud...again. Thanks...these numbers say it all.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:29 PM
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8. HERE IS THE GREAT ARTICLE WHICH PROVIDED THE DATA
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:04 PM
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2. Agree totally, TIA.
I've seen the CNN screenshots of the Ohio exit poll "update," but not the national & Florida ones. Were these CNN "updates," too?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:09 PM
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3. TIA - did you relax at all this holiday season?.....
Don't burn yourself out Bud, your brain would be a terrible thing to waste!

Another scorcher! Thanks. :-)
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:10 PM
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4. What gets me is the fact that new organizations say they try to make
their scientific and a _._ difference +or- you know that little thing they say. And for the most part until 2000 they were accurate and basically law when it came citizens ideas/viewpoints/etc What I'm trying to get at is if these things are so good and held to such high standards why are these polls pointed to by media and others to say look something fishy did happen here. This proves fraud. I mean couldn't Conyers or a Senator say such a thing?
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:11 PM
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5. Yep, when they saw they would not win legitimately....
They made their move.
Unfortunately for them, they did not think they would be caught.
The truth is unfolding.
Thanks, TruthIsAll!
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:14 PM
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6. Yet,
our "leaders" and some members of DU advocate that we just sit here and let it all happen without a whimper of discontent.

If you ask me the rumbling has already started, and it's only a matter of time before some big flame sets off the powder keg that is this country.
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weeve Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:17 PM
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7. truth IS all !
Hey, keep up the awesome work. You are NOT a lone voice shouting into the void . This is why it is SO important that the networks release the raw data. They're still analyzing it ... yeah, right. They're trying to figure out a way to get their final bogus numbers to jibe with the earlier numbers that they no doubt wish were never shown to the viewing public ( hence the call for no exit polls in the future ). Something stinks in Denmark ... but once the genie is out of the bottle, awfully hard to put him back in.

They got to revote in the Ukraine today , and hmmmm... guess who won ?! Let's not let the criminals ( with complicit media )get away with it here. Before we say we're trying to export it around the world , how about DEMOCRACY IN THE USA FIRST!!! Hand count every vote!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:37 PM
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9. Exactly-
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 02:38 PM by Al-CIAda
"They're trying to figure out a way to get their final bogus numbers to jibe with the earlier numbers that they no doubt wish were never shown to the viewing public ( hence the call for no exit polls in the future ). Something stinks in Denmark ... but once the genie is out of the bottle, awfully hard to put him back in. "



How about we just re-vote? I have not confidence in tthe system that has allowed so much tampering of the votes, the machines, the illegal lockdown on phony "terrorist threats", the bogus re-count process, cheat sheets, and the lies / blatent misrepresentation of facts. This election is rotten to the core.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:55 PM
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12. Subpoena for Exit Polls?
Thank you, Truth Is All, for your analysis. Does anyone know if any subpoenas have yet been issued to obtain the exit poll raw data in the Moss v. Bush case or any other legal action?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:04 PM
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13. I can't remember if this specifically alletged,
but, if Arenbeck can show it's germaine to the case, of course he'll ask for a subpeona for the exit polling data.
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:47 PM
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20. Arnebeck said the Ohio exit polls would be part of the discovery
phase - he didn't know if he could get all of them
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:43 PM
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10. A simple explanation: it's the "Star Wars" paradigm.
Just as the federal goverment spends uber-billions on missile defense, which does not actually work, and other black-budget billions on intelligence which couldn't keep guys with box-cutters from destroying the WTC or keep us from invading the wrong country, it is reasonable to expect that the networks would spend top dollar on the most sophisticated exit-polling in history and accept that whoops, wasn't very good, oh well, nothing to see here.

Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations!

They even rigged the final exit poll results the same way that the missile defense tests are jimmied to provide the desired results: ineptly.

:eyes:
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:52 PM
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17. "Soft bigotry of low expectations" - that's a GREAT line! n/t
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:36 AM
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25. Bush uses that line every chance he gets. Karen Huge Doubletalk
.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:47 PM
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11. Thx you TIA!
You continue to out do yourself!! ;-)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:06 PM
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14. Hmmmm! That dang Ukraine back in the news with those exit poll thingies...
....again. This time -- three of'um.

Yo, Karl & George -- you boys watchin?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Ukrain...

Three Exit Polls Project Opposition Leader as Winner in Ukraine Vote
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: December 26, 2004

Filed at 2:46 p.m. ET

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) -- Three exit polls projected Ukrainian opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko the winner by a commanding margin over Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych in Sunday's fiercely fought presidential rematch. (more at the link -- get your barf bags ready)

I hope everyone here is looking forward to the next 11 days (and thereafter) as much as I am.

Peace.

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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:16 PM
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15. that's the point
They rewrote the final tallies of the exit polls to match the reported vote, but the percentages could not have changed that drastically with the addition of however many it was that they added. It' just plain doesn't add up, so they couldn't hide what they were doing.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:27 PM
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16. Very good!! Especially if you look at the number of voters
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 03:28 PM by DrDebug
If I read this correctly Kerry LOST votes in the intermediate period and you can never lose a vote.

According to my calculation by multiplying the percentage with the total:


OH
7:23 Kerry 1023 Bush 940
1:41 Kerry 982 Bush 1028

FL
8:40 Kerry 1414 Bush 1403
1:10 Kerry 1362 Bush 1471


So Kerry lost 41 votes in OH between 7:23 and 1:41 and 52 votes in FL between 8:40 and 1:10

Is this correct or not? How can you lose votes?

On Edit: Typo corrected
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 04:01 PM
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18. I remember when I first read this article. Almost fell off my chair.
VERY strange, indeed. VERY powerful voters! I had no idea that so few people could vote so many times!
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 04:06 PM
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19. Nothing strange about it AT ALL
we knew they were going to rig it MONTHS AGO. The question remains: where's John Kerry and his 17,000 lawyers??
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:42 PM
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21. About to drop on your pals
from way, way up in the sky, malatesta.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 08:15 PM
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24. I've been hearing this for 55 days now
SHOW ME THE MONEY
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:43 PM
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22. AND HOW DO YOU GO FROM 50% to 47% ????
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phillipw Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:56 PM
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23. the documented vote machine fraud in swing states explain the swing
Ohio touchscreen
see http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm youngstown
(and other http://www.flcv.com/ohiov04.htm

Florida and New Mexico touchscreen see http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html
and other http://www.flcv.com/flavi04.html
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